Comments on: When you start to flick turds into the fan everyone gets sprayed

By: rr

rr — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 22:24:55 +0000

I said on another forum that this sort of thing was already happening years ago, and I believe I got bullied & trolled by the author of this post.

By: Hank W.

Hank W. — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 03:20:24 +0000

Hey thats Keskusta politicians you know – slick with Tummeli. Or haven’t you forgotten Anneli Jäätteenmäki’s : “I’m being as trutful as I know how to be.”

By: ben s

ben s — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:22:40 +0000

I am so sick of matti vanhanen that it is not even funny.

First was the susan kuronen shit, then the fight over his privacy and now this.

He is always blaming other people for his problems. What a fucking loser.

Now he is saying that he shouldn’t be blamed for the scandal. What kind of a leader is he ? Everyone is guilty except for him

What a crock. I hope they kick his ass out and put someone there with real leadership skills

By: Jonas G

Jonas G — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 12:06:27 +0000

I think there will be big changes to electoral funding imposed by a new law on the matter. The Greens have said such a law is essentially a condition of them staying in the government. And above and beyond that, both Centre and Kok are backing such an act as well. So, it seems highly likely that it will happen! The election campaign in 2011 will likely be far less intrusive in terms of adverts in newspapers and tv and so on, which perhaps is good news for all of us – except struggling media companies. The campaign will probably be extremely hard for party secretaries to run as the media will doubtless be watching as to where every single cent has come from.

One proposal that I hope is quickly dismissed is a change of the voting system to a list system (such as that used in Sweden), where the party HQ effectively gets to decide the order of its candidates elected. I think that would be a significant step backwards for democracy. This has been floated by some as a solution that would prevent the need for individual candidates to need to fund such a large campaign in order to try and influence whether they are elected or not.

Now to see whether Vanhanen will survive as prime minister. There are growls from some fairly prominent people inside the Centre party voicing dissatisfaction with him. But would they really want to get rid of him and open up a situation where perhaps Kokoomus could argue and take the position of PM? After all, they have the same number of parliament members. Who would replace him anyway within Centre? His greatest problem is possibly that Helsingin Sanomat seems to have decided it wants to get rid of him, so the negative media spotlight may be so unrelenting that he may have to go.

By: Andy Campbell

Andy Campbell — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:48:31 +0000

Unless there is a police investigation then I think nothing much will be done. Vanhanen will probably resign but there won’t be any structural change in how political parties fund their campaigns.
When it comes to indexes, there is statistically a margin of error of up to 10 places. So Finland might be the 15th least corrupt country and so on.
In countries where corruption is more rampant usually the taxation burden for the company is less. If you look at profit margins and operating costs then it can be pretty similar regardless of the country you live in. One might complain that in a corrupt country you can’t get, let’s say, your food wholesale business off the ground because of corrupt officials blocking your way, but could you get a food wholesale business off the ground in Finland? Challenging the monopolies here is almost impossible so does it really matter if there is less corruption?

By: Hank W.

Hank W. — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 06:06:23 +0000

I don’t know if the issue is really in the end of if the funding has been tachnically legal – theres evidence that some of the sources have been inappropriate. Now it seems more coming to look like an authority and power issue. Vanhanen is more or less acting like a martyr which really doesn’t make him look any better.

By: Exile

Exile — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 02:46:20 +0000

Finnish polies like most of the breed have an ingrained tendency to send the bills to the tax payers – valtion piikkiin – the brotherhood- veljeskunta- that politically exploits these long suffering succers in Finland needs an overhaul. Pity is that there is no real alternative in Finland .Take the money and run.

By: Hank W.

Hank W. — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:51:04 +0000

http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Election+funding+causes+rumblings+in+government/1135249584192

By: same

same — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:35:40 +0000

No darling, that was not very far from Finland. Sorry I forgot to send you a postcard.

By: Cunter

Cunter — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 08:14:57 +0000

“This slipping a bill to cops has saved me good amount of money last summer:))”

You went back home for the summer?

By: same

same — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 07:26:00 +0000

“What I’m trying to say I wouldn’t try to slip any bills to cops or kela-workers in Finland just yet.”

This slipping a bill to cops has saved me good amount of money last summer:))

By: majava

majava — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 05:20:42 +0000

Votes of no confidence happen all the time. It needs a majority no. of votes (how many?) that will never be reached.

By: idiot

idiot — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 04:14:13 +0000

hey could someone clarify how things work on the government here in Finland ?

Suppose that there is a vote of no confidence, what then ? Is Masa forced to call new elections ?

By: philtard

philtard — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 21:49:40 +0000

@12

There are definetely issues if people perceive Finland as having little corruption based on such studies. There isn’t that sort of rampant corruption and bribery like for example in russia or china.
But “cow dealing” (as goes the finnish expression) has been always known, which is teetering on the edge illegality and definete immorality.

Unfortunately it seems now the politicians have gotten too used to being able to do things without anyone monitoring them and have wandered off into the definetely illegal end of things.

What I’m trying to say I wouldn’t try to slip any bills to cops or kela-workers in Finland just yet.

By: prince of dorkness

prince of dorkness — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:35:37 +0000

@11
Let’s see if they start investigating zoning decisions in favour of big contributors, that’s where the really obvious, big corruption should be.
@12
PISA: just ask anyone who’s been through the Finnish school system, you’ll get it demolished.