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8.9.2009

True Finns’ Halla-Aho found guilty, some charges dismissed

Tags: Uncategorized — Author: @ 2:22 pm

City Councillor Jussi Halla-Aho of the True Finns Party has been found guilty of defamation of religion by the Helsinki District Court. He was ordered to pay a fine of 330 euros. However, the court dismissed a charge of inciting hatred against an ethnic group.

330 euros!? LOL!! Glad to know that “defamation of religion” brings on the same punishment as urinating in public. Whichever Finnish politicians created the laws on defamation of religion should be charged with defamation of religion, cause they’re obviously mocking all religious people with these joke punishments.

The next time Halla-Aho wants to defame religion, he’ll be forced to think, “Would I rather write crazy shit and get fined…or spend that same money on a PlaySation3 ?? Hmmm…” Halla-Aho couldn’t have bought such great publicity for 330e – next stop Parliament.

The prosecutor said Halla-Aho’s writings insulted Muslims residing in Finland and endangered religious peace.

Over the weekend I saw the new Finnish film, “Kielletty Hedelmä” (Forbidden Fruit). It basically describes how archaic and abusive Finland’s religious, “Laestadian“, sect are. They brainwash their children, ostracize those who question them, banish those who don’t agree, and tell their kids they’re spending eternity in hell. It’s mental rape.

As true and unsettling as the film was, its producers ‘defamed’, ‘offended’, and ‘insulted’ their religion. The film has ‘endangered religious peace’ and ‘incited racial hatred’, cause after watching, I was about to drive up to Nowheremäki and smack the bejesus out of them for what they do to innocent children.

I fear the Laestadians may force the authorities to go after the film’s producers next! …Oops, the Laestadians aren’t allowed to watch movies, so I guess they’ll never know… LOL!!

dreaming-of-halla-aho

  • http://fredfryinternational.blogspot.com/ Fred Fry

    Nothing like starting a comment thread with an off-topic post:

    Take a look at the latest BS from the tax authorities:

    “The group is not expected to propose that all tax deductions be eliminated. For instance, the biggest tax break, the right to live in a home that a person owns him, or herself, is unlikely to be changed.

    “Ordinary people do not understand the idea that living in their own home constitutes income of some kind, or that this income might be taxed”, Hetemäki concedes.”

    The Government considers it income because as the owner of the house, you should be receiving rent, from yourself, which the Government would be taxing, but at the moment is not…. (You have been put on notice though!)

    What a load of bull.

    Taxation task force wants to cut back on tax deductions – Helsingin Sanomat

  • http://www.finlandforthought.net Phil

    LOL!!!! That’s hysterical.

  • http://www.tundratabloid.blogspot.com KGS

    Phil, regardless of whatever punishment was metted out by the state, the key issue here is the nonsense of the state itself, for even daring to pursue the enforcement of such a stupid law.

    I’m under the impression that your understanding of the Halla-aho case is identical to that of the chief prosecuting attorney’s. What gives with you anyways?

  • infinndel the jenkki dogg

    #3..KGS…I have been reading and enjoying your blog from almost the beginning…***KITTOS*** for excellent coverage of the ***JIHAD*** in NORDIC region and elsewhere!….***KIPPIS***

  • http://antti-juhani.kaijanaho.fi/newblog/ Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho

    I’m sure you know that the 330 euros reflect more Halla-Aho’s finances than the intended serverity of the punishment. The severity was 30 day-fines, which, in my experience, is a medium-severity fine.

  • Hank W.

    The maximum IIRC is 90 day fines… 30 day fines you can get from say speeding 165 in a 120 zone or drunk driving.

  • http://www.finlandforthought.net Phil

    I’m under the impression that your understanding of the Halla-aho case is identical to that of the chief prosecuting attorney’s. What gives with you anyways?

    I’m looking at this case from a different angle: I just don’t see the point of going through all this court bullshit, if the guilty party gets fined for just 330 euros. They obviously don’t take this “crime” very seriously, so why bother?

  • http://www.finlandforthought.net Phil

    I’m sure you know that the 330 euros reflect more Halla-Aho’s finances than the intended serverity of the punishment. The severity was 30 day-fines, which, in my experience, is a medium-severity fine.

    This clown only makes 330 euros a month? Jebus, sweatshop babies in Thailand make more than he. No wonder why Halla-Aho looks like such homeless child pedophile.

  • m

    http://www.lintukoto.net/muut/paivasakkolaskuri/

    Using this I get a 1450€ net income for him. (3 children).

  • m

    Just to add: day fines are calculated non-linearly.

  • http://www.tundratabloid.blogspot.com KGS

    Phil, the issue goes way way beyond 330 euroes. It’s a question of whether or not you are going to let the state dictate to you what is acceptable speech and what it isn’t.

    The reason we we have free speech laws are to protect “inconvenient or offensive” speech. The moment we allow the state to dictate what is acceptable speech (which is different from slander and outright libel or lying) we are on the slippery slope to tyranny.

    Not being snarky, but I would think that as a Libertarian, that would be more than self evident to you.

  • http://www.finlandforthought.net Phil

    It’s a question of whether or not you are going to let the state dictate to you what is acceptable speech and what it isn’t.

    Agreed. We live in a scary country if we can’t talk openly and honestly about religion.

  • Hank W.

    OB.Nitpick: Its Halla-aho. The name is a hyphenated compound word and not a double name. And he is not a cardholding True Finn party member, he is nonaligned on their list.

  • Born there

    This kinda reminds me of when Phil got his ass brought to court and sued… Was a great feeling wasn’t it Phil.

    You lost your freedom of speech like this poor guy did.

    So Phil, you should be sympathetic to loos of freedom of speech. But hey, you seem not to have learned your lesson.

    Phil get bitch slapped by an Iranian guy. like this guy did by his own people defending a religion of “peace”.

    I felt sorry for Phil when he got his ass handed back to him on a plate and got sued. But now? I don’t. Funny how Phil still cant talk about the outcome of the hearing ay Phil.

  • timpal

    This whole thing was worrisome from the beginning. So much for freedom of speech in Finland. I’m surprised that Phil, as a “Libertarian” (really a US style Liberal) would side with the prosecution on this. Fortunately Mr. Halla-aho’s punishment is typically Finnish in its leniency. I mean, really, this is a country where a life sentence for murder is 12 years, and you usually serve much less than that.

  • Anonymous

    So Phil, you should be sympathetic to loos of freedom of speech. But hey, you seem not to have learned your lesson.

    Trust me, I’m sympathetic to the guy. I’m not sure what I said that would prove otherwise. I still think Halla-aho is a racist retard, but racist retards don’t belong in court, they should be ignored.

  • http://www.finlandforthought.net Phil

    I’m surprised that Phil, as a “Libertarian” (really a US style Liberal) would side with the prosecution on this.

    I’m not! Maybe my sarcasm in the post above wasn’t clear enough. The whole thing is a joke. The Finnish courts and laws are such a big joke.

  • Freeridin’ Franklin

    KGS:
    “It’s a question of whether or not you are going to let the state dictate to you what is acceptable speech and what it isn’t.”

    Is speech about infanticidal Jews (and Christians) acceptable?

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Samuel+15&version=NIV
    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm%20137&version=NIV

    Verily the recent actions of the Israeli government display a commitment to uphold the commandments of the LORD.

  • Freeridin’ Franklin

    To be clear, I am in full support of free speech. There should be no obstacle to speaking the truth about pedophile Muslims and child-murdering Jews.

  • Phil has had lobotomia

    “The Finnish courts and laws are such a big joke.”

    Then you and Finnish courts and laws have at least something in common.

    “This clown only makes 330 euros a month? Jebus, sweatshop babies in Thailand make more than he. No wonder why Halla-Aho looks like such homeless child pedophile.”

    Are you stupid? Maybe you can’t read (I’ve heard that’s common for americans). If you had some brains in your head you would have found out how the fines are calculated before you made a fool out of yourself. And what’s with your obsession about pedophilia? You think it is not ok for Halla-aho to criticize muslims for worshipping a pedophile but it is ok for you to call pedophile someone who has never been even suspected of being one. You really are a moron.

  • http://knizzlefoshizzle.blogspot.com Larjmarj

    Bunch a’ haters up in here.

    Interesting that Scandinavian countries have their religious fundamentalists as well. I doubt however that they have the political impact that they do here in the states. I fear the mouth breathing Faux news watching, chromosomally challenged Palinites are taking over. At least the Laestadians are not in to spreading their version of fear and derision through technology and the media.

  • damnsanta

    So no racism, but insulting a religion? wtf?
    Less bad than insulting those green women a yr ago.

  • http://antti-juhani.kaijanaho.fi/newblog/ Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho

    The maximum for one offence is 120 day-fines, for multiple offences tried at the same time, the maximum combined fine is 240 day-fines. More than 90 day-fines would be an unusual penalty; the maximum I have personally given in my lay judge capacity was 120 or 150 day fines – I forget which – but that case was pretty unusual.

    Day fines are converted into euros by taking the offender’s net monthly income, deducting from it 255 euros, and then dividing that by 60. For each dependent child, three euros will be deducted from the result. Thus, with three dependent children, we get (330/30+9)*60+255 = 1455 e/mo. The calculation is specified in Rikoslaki section 2a paragraph 2.

    I *think* the intent is that one day fine roughly corresponds to one’s daily disposable income. Of course, since it’s calculated mechanically, the correspondence is *very* rough.

    m @ 10 claimed that the calculation is nonlinear. It is quite linear, as one can see above.

  • http://antti-juhani.kaijanaho.fi/newblog/ Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho

    Oh, there’s one unlinearity point: the minimum day-fine is 6 euros. Hence the phrase “kuuden euron mies”.

  • Hank W.

    @21 Ah, but hes insulted multiculturalism, thats the green womens religion.

  • Anonymous

    @24 Hank W. stop taking advantage of FFT’s readership and start your own bullshit blog with its oh so predictable agenda (and then we’ll see how many folks follow you on to the dogpile site)!

    @Phil, you need to let this guy go (and I’m speaking for the majority here).

  • http://www.finlandforthought.net Phil

    “The Finnish courts and laws are such a big joke.”

    Then you and Finnish courts and laws have at least something in common.

    As an aspiring stand-up comedian, I take that as a compliment! :-)

    If you had some brains in your head you would have found out how the fines are calculated before you made a fool out of yourself.

    Of course I know about day fines. Regardless, 330 euros is still a joke of a penalty.

    You think it is not ok for Halla-aho to criticize muslims for worshipping a pedophile but it is ok for you to call pedophile someone who has never been even suspected of being one. You really are a moron.

    LOL! Oh the irony!

  • http://www.finlandforthought.net Phil

    Is speech about infanticidal Jews (and Christians) acceptable?

    KGS, you guys are doing the typical right-wing thing by turning this into a Muslim issue. Direct your frustration towards the stupid white men who make these ridiculous laws and uphold them in court.

  • Freeridin’ Franklin

    “KGS, you guys are doing the typical right-wing thing by turning this into a Muslim issue.”

    I suspect that Kenny is a child-murdering Jew, so a rational approach is a little too much to expect from him. :)

  • http://www.tundratabloid.blogspot.com KGS

    Seeing that the Halla-aho case involves Muslims/Islam, and that the world’s largest Islamic organization, the OIC, is spearheading the charge to enforce these kind of “anti-defamtion against religion laws” (read =criticism of Islam) in the UN, this is very much about Islam, and the dhimmi-like response by the Finnish state to bend over backwards in appeasing these people.

    This issue is far from over, and I foresee anti-liberal, anti-democratic forces being emboldened by this development. The International Free Press Society, run by Lars Hedegaard has taken a great interest in the case, as have others that I canot yet name, but take it from me, we have not heard the last of this case.

    As for FF 18#, referencing a *discriptive accounting* (as oppposed to the numerous proscriptive directives in the Koran) of an event that’s mentioned in the Bible from over 2000 years ago is ludicrus.

    We are confronting in this day and age, an ideology that supports the stoning of women, the murdering of gays, the subjugation of women, the silencing of the free press, the sanctioning of pedophilia and on and on and on….I can’t see the logic in playing childish games while so much is at risk here. really

  • Hank W.

    @25 Did I interrupt your religious worship?

  • Freeridin’ Franklin

    Kenny:
    “As for FF 18#, referencing a *discriptive accounting* (as oppposed to the numerous proscriptive directives in the Koran) of an event that’s mentioned in the Bible from over 2000 years ago is ludicrus.”

    I would expect a child-murdering Jew to attempt such a “ludicrus” cop-out. Have you bashed any infants against a rock lately?

  • Freeridin’ Franklin

    I would greatly enjoy if Kenny the child-murdering Jew would list the “numerus” accounts of paedophilia in the Koran. As I don’t read Arabic, I would prefer an English or Finnish translation.

    As it happens, the Old Testament encourages infanticide in several passages, starting with Abraham and Isaac. It logically follows that Judaism and Christianity are child-murdering religions.

  • Freeridin’ Franklin

    Kenny:
    “We are confronting in this day and age, an ideology that supports the stoning of women, the murdering of gays”

    Are you referring to Judaism, the religion of murderers (of homosexuals in addition to children)?

    http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/tag/tel-aviv-massacre/

  • Jaska

    “As it happens, the Old Testament encourages infanticide in several passages, starting with Abraham and Isaac. It logically follows that Judaism and Christianity are child-murdering religions.”

    Perhaps they are, but the thing is that saying that is not illegal in Finland, while saying the same about islam is. It is in numerous hadiths where it is sayed that Mohammad married a 6-7 year old girl and “consumated the marriage” when she was 9.

  • prince of dorkness

    @29
    No actual Muslims were involved in the prosecution. They did not do this, the state did, on its own initiative.

  • Freeridin’ Franklin

    #34: Do you really think that child-murdering Jews are not an extremely sensitive minority?

    I wouldn’t test this in public with my income, but since most “immigration critics” are unemployed losers, feel free…

  • http://www.tundratabloid.blogspot.com KGS

    #35, The point is, the case itself involved the writing of something deemed potentially offensive to Muslims. I say potentially, because not every person who claims Muslim affiliation were interviewed to assertain whether they were offended or not.

    But you most certainly are correct in pointing out that the state, like it did during the dreaded Mo-toon crisis, went out of its way to prove that they do not agree with insulting of religion.

    That is a dangerous trend, that’s why this case must be taken very seriously by all of us, for the state seems bent on interpreting for us, via the courts, what is free speech, when it’s already self evident, that you cannot spread malicious lies with the hope to slander.

    These hate speech laws need to be stricken from the books, not just simply laughed at “as silly” laws. Like I told the visiting head of the Organization of the Islamic Council, Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, when he was speaking at the Finnish UPI seminar last year:

    “There is no such thing as the right to not be offended”. He dissagreed as did the Finnish state with Jussi Halla-aho, that should show us who sides with what, and the need to fight them tooth and nail over this horrendus breach of free speech rights.

  • Hank W.

    The point of the issue isn’t really if religions are logical or illogical. Theres been more and more severe statements made about other religions which were done deliberately, and didn’t warrant prosecution. The point proven here was that while all illogical religions are equal, some religions are more equal than others.

  • http://www.finlandforthought.net Phil

    Seeing that the Halla-aho case involves Muslims/Islam, and that the world’s largest Islamic organization, the OIC, is spearheading the charge to enforce these kind of “anti-defamtion against religion laws” (read =criticism of Islam) in the UN, this is very much about Islam, and the dhimmi-like response by the Finnish state to bend over backwards in appeasing these people.

    If there was a law that stated Charlize Theron would have to give me a blowjob, I’d do everything in my power to uphold that law.

    So who’d be to blame here? Me? Or whichever retards created and defended that law?

  • Freeridin’ Franklin

    Kenny the child-murdering Jew:
    “These hate speech laws need to be stricken from the books”

    LOL! This from the same clown who exalted the Finnish hate speech laws as a great victory for the Finnish child-murdering community.

  • prince of dorkness

    @39
    Yeah, some groups are regarded as needing rather more protection for their beliefs than others. Plus Hallis is a card-carrying memeber of the White patriachy — a Green woman could probably get away with saying essentially the same things.

  • http://www.tundratabloid.blogspot.com KGS

    The hypothetical question you propose Phil, doesn’t fit the criteris for what we are discussing, because (a) such a law doens’t infringe on anyone elses rights, and most importantly (b) you don’t suggest that there are hundreds of millions of your supporters intimidating the government to ensure you that right. Which in retrospect wouldn’t present you with too much of a dilemma.

  • http://www.finlandforthought.net Phil

    such a law doens’t infringe on anyone elses rights, and most importantly

    It doesn’t infringe on Charlize Theron’s rights??

    you don’t suggest that there are hundreds of millions of your supporters intimidating the government to ensure you that right.

    There’s hundreds of millions of supporters intimidating the government for EVERY issue.

  • Rich

    Phil, I think in #27 you inadvertently hit the nail upon the head. This is not an issue of free speech concerning race, but an issue of race concerning free speech. The people posting here, and Halla-Aho, haven’t got a great history of crusading in the name of civil liberties and free speech. Jesus, they only give a shit when and if it restricts their right to make divisive and inflammatory statements or generally lord it over the impure foreigner. You think if the state placed restrictions on what Muslims could publish (as every Western state does) these guys would be manning the barricades in opposition? Fuck that. Seriously all this stuff about “slipping into tyranny” or the “collapse of the West”. If you genuinely believe that you’re clinically insane, and if you don’t then it’s just cynical opportunism to justify your increasingly out of date bigotry.

    The coverage of this who thing is beyond bizarre. Halla-Aho disagrees with laws on race/religious hatred. That’s fine. Write a think-piece explaining the problem in a non-inflammatory manner. Start a petition, write to your fucking MP. Why not even see how far you can go in defaming your ‘own kind’ before the law steps in? But no, he just ‘coincidentally’ illustrates his concern by being grossly offensive towards particular groups he has has long-standing existential issues with. There’s nothing noble/intellectual/impartial about that. It’s as nasty and pathetic and beating up a black kid because you disagree with laws regarding racial assault and wanted to ‘highlight’ our legal ‘hypocrisy’. It’s a pile of wank.

    Incidentally it’s the most perverted irony that martyrdom appears to be the weapon of choice of these bigots.

  • http://www.finlandforthought.net Phil

    The people posting here, and Halla-Aho, haven’t got a great history of crusading in the name of civil liberties and free speech. Jesus, they only give a shit when and if it restricts their right to make divisive and inflammatory statements or generally lord it over the impure foreigner. You think if the state placed restrictions on what Muslims could publish (as every Western state does) these guys would be manning the barricades in opposition? Fuck that.

    YES!! Exactly. That’s why no one is giving them the sympathy they’re expecting.

  • http://www.tundratabloid.blogspot.com KGS

    Phil that’s poor reasoning. You threw up a hypothetic question without the known factors involved. Your question is really irrelevent, seeing that what’s in question is the threat of violence that the ROP can deliver at the frop of a hat, and knee jerk reflex of the state to diminish that thrat at the expence of our civil liberties. Stay on target here.

    No one here is talking about *RACE* somehow Rich 45# thinks that making a strawmen to knock down, will somehow win the arguement, he’s wrong, just as wrong as you are Phil for championing his weak argument.

    You have chosen not to address the fact that the OIC is seeking to restrict free speech, in the West, that makes this an issue of Islam Vs. Free Speech rights. Once it becomes illegal to even address the roots of terrorism, that being the jihad, islamic expansionism/imperialism, then the inevitable is just around the corner.

    Phil and Rich obviously fall for the ruse that none of this is actually taking place, and that Islam is just like any other religious movement, that givn time, they’ll come around. Well I would invite either of you to point to any point in history where, Islam, (outside of a military defeat)once it reached the shore line of a non-Muslim region, fell into decline, in that the host society eventually won over Islamic hegemony.

    This has never been about race, and anyone that makes it into one, does not know what he or she is talking about. This is about ensuring that our rights are safeguarded from tampering due to mass immigration by people who adhere to an ideology that do not value our western values. Pure and simple.

  • Rich

    KGS,

    A) I agree that for many people of your ilk, race doesn’t capture the full spectrum of your discrimination. The modern far-right is an odd complex of racial, religious and cultural prejudice, embellished with weird Cassandra-esque narratives of grand paradigmatic change, and manichean struggle. We don’t yet have an adequate (non-medical) word for it yet, so I guess racism will have to do.

    B) As I said, the tendencies of the modern far right (and your posts) are, i’m afraid, crazy. I’m sure it’s a lot of fun to be the lone voice in the night calling out a desperate warning. But the reason no-one listens is because the words you are saying are mad. You can cherry pick the words and followers of any religion to prove outrageous conspiracy. But people who don’t have any pre-existing prejudice (or paranoid tendencies) can see that the idea of Western society (whatever that is) falling (whatever than means) to some Islamic movement (whatever that is) is just silly. It really isn’t much more complex than that.

  • x

    Maybe you can oppose their ideas and even bash them, make fun out of them, but you should respect the persona behind.
    To me it should be lecit to blame islam christianity politics etc, but the same person life should be spared.

  • x

    By the way, those antimulticulturalists should coherently stop using internet since now. :)

  • prince of dorkness

    @45
    Regardless of who says it, the blasphemy law sucks.
    @46
    Lots of people have no idea who Halla-aho is, or any background info on the Hommaites. All they see is a reasonable and rational seeming guy (not a tattooed skinhead) getting tried and sentenced for blasphemy, of all things. He’s getting sympathy, believe me.

  • v.i.lenin

    Remember when the Nazis marched in Skokie Illinois, and the ACLU went to court to support their right to do so? What would go down if that happened here? (Maybe it would turn into a riot along the lines of “Nazis gone wild”? yikes)

  • prince of dorkness

    @52
    The Swedes have riots over demos every now and then. Not so much ‘Nazis gone wild’ as ‘Antifascists’ attacking the riot police who try to keep them away from the Nassies.

  • http://--

    Halla-aho should try to get a full time job. Its hard for me to understand whats the motivation of those full time bloggers? it cant be money, may be some attention? fame? Ediots.

  • Hank W.

    X – the thing is “multiculturalism” in the end means double standards – it means people do not have the same rules. Think of it if English and Japanese people could drive on the left side of the street in Finland and not obey the rules everyboody else did – what would that result in? Societies need to have common standards to be able to function.

  • Hank W.

    @53 I laughed out loud the antifascists had to call the police to help them out as the immigrants wanted to kick their ass when they went to demonstrate in Rosengård last time.

  • Rich

    Hank:

    “Think of it if English and Japanese people could drive on the left side of the street in Finland and not obey the rules everyboody else did – what would that result in?”

    That’s why we don’t have that rule.

    Think of what would happen if everyone had to worship in a Church, regardless of faith.

    That’s why we do have that rule.

    We can not have some rules, and we can have some other rules. Governments don’t buy them in bulk from a wholesaler.

  • prince of dorkness

    @57
    Everyone used to have to worship in the same church, but then we sort of lost faith and stopped having respect for religion and god-botherers. Now we’re supposed to learn to respect religion and the feelings of the religious, as long as they are members of a visible minority. Treating these minorities as ‘special’ is a good idea how, exactly?
    IRL example of different practices for different groups would be the way that Romany blood feuds are treated as a normal, acceptable thing that the authorities must make allowances for.

  • Jaska

    “Halla-aho should try to get a full time job. Its hard for me to understand whats the motivation of those full time bloggers? it cant be money, may be some attention? fame?”

    I guess you retard don’t know the meaning of POLITICS. Halla-aho is a concerned citizen who want’s to prevent the destruction of Finland.

    The treasonous government would love to have only uninformed citizens who don’t care about the fact that Finland is being ruined. That’s why the red-greens are trying to silence Halla-aho: he is making people think for themselves.

  • Thinker

    #59

    Yes if Halla-Aho is not allowed to blog, then surely the whole West will fall! All praise Halla-Aho!

  • Hank W.

    On the full-time job issue, Halla-aho is doing a dictionary on a grant. Was it now something obscure like church slavonic. So he does have a full-time job but the grants in Finland aren’t much.

  • Hank W.

    Oh it wasn’t church slavonic, thats what his thesis was on, hes making an Ukraine-Finnish dictionary.

  • Anonymous

    Kielletty hedelmä is not a NEW film, it was released in february.

  • http://www.tundratabloid.blogspot.com KGS

    #48, Try and peddle your position to the police and firemen in different regions of the EU, where these areas are in fact deemed No Go areas for a reason.

    No continent has ever experienced thïs scale of mass colonization in such a short time (by Islam) that Europe now faces, and to deny that is the height of buffoonery.

    That’s right Rich, only those willing to be colonized in their own lands are not the “waycists”, we’re so lucky to have you letting us know that “all is well”, in spite of the hard facts.

    So many EU states, even Russia, are posed to become Muslim majorities within 30 yrs if the trends are not reversed, but for Rich, that’s not a problem, though Dutch politicians sooth their aboriginal felleo citizens with the tlak that, “if the majority want sharia law, than in my opinion Islamic law should be incorporated into the Dutch System.

    Or Swedish Culture Minister telling her fellow Swedes that “we have no history”

    If you don’t know what Western culture is, there is little point in pointing that out to you, because you seem intent on denying that as much as you deny the UNHEALTHY side effects of having Muslim majority states in Europe.

  • Die Rote Tarja

    “Halla-Aho couldn’t have bought such great publicity for 330e – next stop Parliament.”

    Hopefully so. If you’d listen to him without prejudice, you’d find out he is a thoroughly sane person, unlike many of those who demonize him. Halla-aho delivered quite good stuff this week in “Ajankohtainen kakkonen” and radio’s “Yle ykkönen/Tuomas Enbuske”. Both available in Yle areena.

    http://areena.yle.fi/video/407926
    http://areena.yle.fi/audio/410980

  • HK

    A funny detail in Tuomas Enbuske’s radioshow: he had googled two different phrases. The first was “amerikkalaiset ovat tyhmiä” (“Americans are stupid”), and he got 6100 hits. The other one was “somalit ovat tyhmiä” (“Somalis are stupid”), and he got only 5 hits. So yeah, Finnish people really are racists, as long as Americans are a different race… Seriously, this simple experience showed that in Finland, insulting some nations is more acceptable than insulting some others.

  • http://kauhistunut remember PA103

    Well, that’s what it is you Humanist Mohammedan and Arab lovers. No doubt, youv’ve read the late dead Edward Said’s Orientalism. All of the Wesretern Left Doctors adhere to him. He wasn’t even a Mohammedan, yet threw stones at IDF personnel. What an A-Rab piece of shit. May he rot in A-Rab hell, if there is such a place. All I ask of any atheist or theist, is to give Mohammedans a walloping. We didn’t ask for Big Moe to terrorize us, so in return; leave us alone in Europe. Otherwise we will vote for Halla-aho, BNP, Le Pen, and so on.

  • http://kauhistunut remember PA103

    Remember Pan Am 103 Seat 34K. Hanne Maria Maijala Root. Victim of Arab Mohammedan vengeance.

  • prince of dorkness

    @66
    Old news. Hallis asked the Press Standards people if it wasn’t wrong to mention that a particular perp was an American (they are very much opposed to the media mentioning the race of any alleged criminal, as this promotes negative racial stereotypes). They responded by explaining that the Americans are not an ethnic group and hence there cannot be any anti-American prejudice. OK, I must have just imagined all the stupid, stupid generalizations and ignorant shite about Americans that I’ve heard and read…

  • Die Rote Tarja

    #69 – exactly. It must’ve been over one year ago, and that case was very similar to this. Halla-aho was talking about the fact that in the Finnish media, all nationalities and ethnic groups are not treated as equal. Americans are a good example, because one can say anything, I repeat: anything, about them without any official so much rising their pinky. But say anything negative about Muslims, and the minority ombudsman subpoenas the living hell out of you.

    The above fits nicely to the fact, that Mikko Puumalainen (the former ombudsman for minorities), Johanna Suurpää (the current one) and Mika Illman are all members of the radical left-wing lawyer’s association Demla. Along with our Dear Leader, Die Rote Tarja, of course.

  • Freeridin’ Franklin

    Jaska:
    “I guess you retard don’t know the meaning of POLITICS. Halla-aho is a concerned citizen who want’s to prevent the destruction of Finland.”

    Helsinki park benches are full of similar “concerned citizens”. Hullu-uho should get a job.

  • JL

    A quick history lesson about subversive group methods:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgSoEbC3UWU

  • born there

    HITLER was and died left wing socialist…so you lefties will be in good company… hahahahaha, you would not know what sweet smell was if you didn’t have cow crap to judge by..(lefties smell bad)

  • born there

    72..nice VID, just shows how stupid the west is and how the Islamics also see that, and promote their religion…great vid to show how stupid the west was, is and will be..thanks..
    oh, by the way, you dip ship ass must also be western…cant make it on your own ay ? well, be smarter the the jew or muslim and do something bout it..but you wont. thats the funny thing, you wont. youll just sit there and type..yeh, thats all the power you have, sit and type…hahahahaha

    Get some education and be smarter then those jews on that vid and make some thing of yourself. dont just hate them cause your to stupid to out smart them…hahahah

    Funny how the turds of the world blame jews for “dominating everything” cause your to stupid and cant dominate anything but your keyboard…typical

  • Freeridin’ Franklin

    “your to stupid”

    Word.

  • Anonymous

    #72. Great video. In the Muslim’s cult, this things are well known and recognized. As a result, a warning message was sent by Muslim’s league to Vladimir Putin earlier to warn him about this, after that , Putin has thrown The CEO of GazProm to jail.He was one of them.

  • Andy Campbell

    If I was like Hallo-Aho I could feel good about something – like defending my country – or trying to get at the truth. I might have a point to prove and I would feel good that I was using my brain and sharp logic to get to the heart of things.
    If I was a muslim immigrant in Finland I could feel good about having Finnish friends and having a job and meeting people who smiled at me and said ‘terve’. I could feel good that my children are getting a high level of education and that they are being considered and look after and that they are safe.
    If I was an Islamic extremist I would feel good about my right interpretation of historical facts. I would be happy to defend my religion and my country. I would feel good that I was using my brain and sharp logic to get to the heart of things.
    If I was a normal Finnish guy then I would be happy about having friends and I’d be happy that my kids are safe and that they a have a good time at school – that they will be well-educated and will be safe here in Finland should anything bad happen.
    Personally I’m not so clever to argue about historical ‘facts’ and I don’t need to believe in just one truth. If there were two things that I believe in it’s that life is just a dream and kindness is the best a person can do. To see that life is just a dream and to appreciate kindness is all that really matters to me. I don’t see much of a difference between those on the left and those on the right. Muslims and Christians are all the same to me. Finns whoever they are and immigrants who ever they are are pretty much the same. We all shit, eat pizza and try to do the best we can.
    But society and it’s law makers must try to stay in balance and serve the interests of all of the people. If we start to hate then we start to create differences that really aren’t there. If we create differences then we create the cause for our own brand of hate and we discriminate. On all sides. In the words of Patti Smith in ‘Rock ‘n Roll Nigger’:

    ”I was lost in a valley of pleasure.
    I was lost in the infinite sea.
    I was lost, and measure for measure,
    love spewed from the heart of me.
    I was lost, and the cost,
    and the cost didn’t matter to me.
    I was lost, and the cost
    was to be outside society.

    Jimi Hendrix was a nigger.
    Jesus Christ and Grandma, too.
    Jackson Pollock was a nigger.
    Nigger, nigger, nigger, nigger,
    nigger, nigger, nigger.

    So is there anything to understand here rather than just ‘know’.

  • Sami

    No wonder why Halla-Aho looks like such homeless child pedophile.

    Real mature. I’m glad I stopped reading your blog Phil, and I’m not about to start again now.

  • timpal

    Well, unlike most of ya’ll Anglospherics, I have Finnish citizenship, and I certainly vote for people such as Dr. Halla-aho, True Finns, or even Olavi Mäenpää if I were a Turkuite, as distasteful as he may be. We have to. We have no choice. Otherwise our race is lost and doomed, as we are already a minority in the world. Visit Russia folks; you’ll see that there is still a European haven, albeit infested with Caucasoids and Krapistanis. But not much at least in Saint Petersburg. Beautiful city with beautiful areas around it, for thousands of kilomteres.

  • Hank W

    Beautiful city with beautiful areas around it?

    I could make some snarky comments on how we need to pay for the Neva sewage treatment plants.

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