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2.3.2009

Pension age up, KELA contributions down, and you still owe the tax office for their mistakes

Tags: Uncategorized — Author:   @ 1:24 pm

The Global credit crunch and the recession that has been its after-effect has slowly been gnawing at the Finnish economy. The wailing over a shortage of labor has switched over to a louder wailing from people being laid off or terminated. The latest figures from the Ministry of Labor state that the trend is looking worse.

Meanwhile, the Government, lead by “things don’t need to be discussed” PM Vanhanen has been taking steps to stall the recession. The first measure was to remove a part of the employer contributions, known as the “social insurance payment” to enable employers to keep their laborforce on for longer. Maybe a cosmetic change, nevertheless KELA wasn’t amused as their budget is tightening. Last week a new proposal was made changing the highest pension age from 63 to 65. While I am quite assured I’ll be 75 before I get to pension, the proposed change has caused more than a little stir with both the labor unions and the opposition parties. (*)

There is also fears that in the current economic situation and the fact that the last years of your employment directly relate to your pension has made more and more people in the ages now allowed to go on pension to “take the money and run” and not chancing being laid off and loosing out. Which of course puts more burden on KELA and the pension insurance companies. And as we’re in a recession there isn’t as much revenue coming in and the investments of the insurance companies are in the red, it seems we will not be seeing too many tax cuts. And we won’t seeing too much improvement in public services – any public services.

What does this mean in real life one might ask. If you aren’t depending on such services you might miss the situation, but if you depend on services you might feel the full blast. One small streamlining operation by the tax office for example will effect small enterpreneurs. Basically your monthly returns must be both in time, and correct, or you’ll be hit with a fine. Which also is a bit rude as if you figure out you made a mistake and go correct it you still be fined for it. And as tax fines are non-negotiable… Oh yes, I bet the revenues will be certain for a while at least.

(*)The HS International Edition has a pretty extensive coverage of the ins and outs.

  • Anonymous

    OK, so, what’s the point you are trying to bring across?

  • Dave the Revelator

    Hank is whining.

    Go HOME if you think it is so bad here, Hank!

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    Oh yeah… You *are* home.

    Congratulations, you lottery winner, you!

  • Andy Campbell

    Just a small comment. Fines have always been levied by the tax office for late payments. Also expect the retirement age to rise again – at least for women.
    TyEL (pension) payments are around 22% of salary. 4.4% of this total is met by the worker with the remaining percentage paid by the employer. The contributions by business into the pension fund are massive. Increasing the retirement age means that fewer people are going to see any pension. If a person dies before retirement then the state keeps the pension contributions unless the person that died has children under the age of 18.
    Increase the pension age and fewer and fewer people will be able to enjoy their contribution that they have made over the years. It’s a cynical move by the government to wrest money away from retirees just to fill a shortage in state funds.

  • Iskobar

    Now in the middle of the recession, foreigners will be seen as the main cause of this crisis.

  • Leena

    In my opinion this is not very much related to the recession. I saw this coming already 10 years ago. The babyboomers are retiring and there just are not enough people to replace them. When we add the fact that the number of mathematics students has been too low for years, I will never get the chance to retire.

  • Hank W.

    What I am trying to bring across, as Andy stated in other words, the government is up to a lot of “smoke & mirrors” tactics there. Maybe it is to keep the people quiet and blissfully happy as they don’t grasp the reality.

    And Dave, if I was whining I’d write about my washing machine that busted.

  • Anonymous

    No, that would qualify as *more* whining.

  • Sirkuspelle

    Ahaa, so they are looking to less honest ways of making money, off of peoples’ mistakes. Maybe they look to the EU for and example – I have heard there is even insurance for filing EU subsidy forms that farmers fill out, incase they are late or wrong or something is missing.

    We really also have all the EU countries blowing on the same coal as well, with Germany giving 2500 EUR for used cars in order to get people to buy new cars in an effort to stimulate the economy, and Finland severely punishing people for buying new cars with the high tax, 42% on up.

    Now with the whole world plugged in to the same screwed up stock market and oil based system, there is nowhere to emigrate to any longer. Well, Mars has water they say. And life as a subsistence hunter/gatherer in the jungle of Gabon isn’t too bad I hear – work about 3 hours a day so you can eat.

  • Hank W.

    The EU subsidies system is totally confusing. And it doesn’t help when if you are in an airplane, you land say in Holland, all the fields are nice and square. You land in Finland and the fields are… whatever shape with piles of rocks and forest patches and water holes and whatnot. So then go and measure your field accurately… and try to explain some Eurocrat that the pile of wood that was there and made a shadow is not there any more.

  • Charles Monk

    Hank, can you explain what exactly you mean by “monthly returns”? Is this the ALV thing, or the salaries report or something else?

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