He’s a lefty?!

Did faux noose use that in their smear campaign?

a-m-e-r-i-KKK-a sees the light of the MESSIAH!

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“Suck it, Republicans!”

Guess you didn’t get the message he delivered, eh?

Looks like he had the same handwriting teacher that tortured me!

Chairman Obama is now in power. God help us.

A black leader of the free world…only in America. The day a black man is president of Finland or any country in Europe will never arrive…

Joona, considerin how few black people we have here I don’t think it’s that surprising.

“Suck it, Republicans!”

Whip it out big boy.

Joona,

a woman leader of the country… only in Europe. The day a woman is the president of the USA will never arrive.

(P.S. Obama is the president of the United States, not the whole free world.)

Anonymous – a lot of western country had women leaders.Not presidents perhaps but Prime Ministers. Or Queens. And flipping much better looking than yours.

Congratulations America! Country where everything is possible.

It’s the starting day of not being hated anymore for being an American in the rest of the world.

> a lot of western country
> had women leaders

If lots of women think like you do it’s no wonder there’s plenty of inequality everywhere. You don’t need any enemies from the male gender. You’re your own worst enemy it seems.

Anonymous,
Queen Cleopatra was one of the first ruling women out of Europe.
Hillary was close to win too. So stop those idiocies of a Finnish feminist.

looks have A LOT of meaning in politics. Much more than you even imagine. The hordes of visage specialists work on every polititian around the world in order to make him or her look more likeble, trustworthy, sociable etc. person in the eyes of own nation and the foreign ones.

But in case of Finnish president, only miracle would help.

I have no enemies among male gender, it’s the ugly females that fight with me.

12. majava – where did you get this idea of people around the world hating Americans? If it was the case, why the long queues otside US embassies to get a visa or the green card loteries?
I love Americans even if find them childish and a bit slow thinking sometimes.

Really, do I need to explain? Living under a stone? Queues for embassies mean nothing. Many people migrate to countries where they despise the government, the culture, the people, but they think they can gain some personal wealth benefit.

Like Russia? Haven’t seen many immigrants there.
People may move to place where they don’t approve of the government but NEVER they will move to place where they cannot accept the local culture or native people.

“but NEVER they will move to place where they cannot accept the local culture or native people.”

What are all these complaining we ain’t multicultural foreigners then doing in Finland?

BTW Russia does have a lot of immigrants to the big cities from the ex-USSR caucasus nations looking for a better life.

“It’s the starting day of not being hated anymore for being an American in the rest of the world.”
– The only time I ever ran into problems was in Europe and Finland where people would hear me speak English and then butt in to tell me that they hate America or Americans. This new ‘love affair’ won’t last very long, if at all.

All these ‘intellectuals’ in Europe need to hate America to distract themselves from the crappy government they have in Brussels!

“Once you go Barack, you’ll never go back.”

Better to go after Barack than into barrack.

“He’s a lefty?!

Did faux noose use that in their smear campaign?”

So is John McCain, believe it or not.

#6 “A black leader of the free world…only in America.”

Not only is the notion of the President of the United States being “the leader of the free world” a blatant insult to the sovereignty of other nations, it is completely illogical.

The only “leaders” that citizens of free countries should recognize are ones in whose election I have been allowed to vote, so unless they want to let us vote in their elections, Americans should stop claiming that their president is our leader.

Of course, most Americans who use this expression are probably blissfully unaware that it might offend anyone. After all, it wasn’t many decades ago that most white Americans thought that there was anything particularly objectionable about the “N-word”.

Well, Obama can not do worse than baby Bush. I mean if he would, that would be the end of the US.
I read funny story about the hostage crisis in Teheran back 1980. After the crisis some of those nut case kidnappers asked from their prisoners could they help them to get visas to the USA.
So not every one who whishes to get in the US is a huge fan of it or something like that.
As person who has lived there I certainly hope that the americans get back their self esteem which has been down the tubes during past few years. It will good to see once again americans who stand up, cheerful and optimistic, instead of these fearful creeps who babble about the threaths and dangers and such shit. For too long americans have been scared and that does not suit for them. I think it is against their culture. They are basically positive and dynamic and should be.
And for those who think US as a bully. Yeah, it can be that too. But when americans don’t fear others they are not, not as individuals nor as a nation. That is something that could happen here too. Even guys like Winter will stop their negative crapping and get along with others.
USA is not a perfect country, far from it, but the idea is beyond anything we have here in Europe. Idea that the goverment is by the people for the people, that everyone is equal etc. Obamas brilliant speech put that on a map again.
Lets hope things will turn better in spirit. Economy is still going down.

“He’s a lefty?!

Did faux noose use that in their smear campaign?”

If he’s not a lefty, then the image is flipped horizontally.

Hey Wilska…

the president of the USA IS the leader of the free world whether you like it, Finland likes it, or any other country likes it or not.

And if you find that offensive, then I suggest you start reading the newspapers and get informed

(OK, so this was s probably a joke, but for the benefit of people who really think that way, I’ll comment)

#25 “the president of the USA IS the leader of the free world whether you like it, Finland likes it, or any other country likes it or not.”

No he isn’t. If he’s our leader, and we couldn’t vote for him, then by definition we aren’t “free”.

dude…

A leader is not always elected. Leadership, and by extension a leader, is someone who shows the way or has a commanding authority or influence.

That’s is why the American president is the leader of the free world.

It has nothing do to with voting for him.

For example the majority voted for Tarja Halonen.She is your president, but she has ZERO leadership.

#27 You are describing dictatorship. I thought America was trying to be example of democracy.

Suggesting that American president, say Bush, is leader of other democracies can be seen as insult.

Voting has nothing to do with granting someone authority or influence?

Ofcourse there is much joy in free countries becouse Obama, but not becouse he’s our leader. Becouse maybe now we can actually work with him.

I wouldn’t call America’s president the “leader of the free world.” Not anymore. Leadership is something that is earned. The series of failed wars over the past 5 years have shown that not everybody is willing to follow this self-proclaimed “leader.” At best, some countries followed in token form, in response to bribes and dubious promises. Now they see that it’s gotten them nowhere. Obama has a difficult task, ahead, in restoring America’s credibility, even if it means nothing more than being an equal player.

@28

Do not confuse authority with influence. They are entirely different.

#27 “A leader is not always elected.”

No, only leaders of free countries are.

“Leadership, and by extension a leader, is someone who shows the way or has a commanding authority or influence.”

There’s a difference between “leadership” and being “The Leader”, (or as it is said in German, “der Führer”).

If President Obama wishes to show leadership on the international stage, then fine by me, but then he really has to show leadership. Simply being elected President of the United States does not give that person the right to be called “The Leader” of any FREE country other than his own.

I paraphrase myself from an earlier post: if Americans claim that their President is, by right, THE LEADER of any countries other than the United States itself, then those countries cannot, BY DEFINITION, be part of anything called the “free world”.

#27 “For example the majority voted for Tarja Halonen.She is your president, but she has ZERO leadership.”

Let’s say that she has fairly little authority. Under the Finnish Parliamentary system, the role of the President is more limited than that of the US President, who, by the way, does not need a majority of the electorate to be elected (in 2000 Al Gore actually got more votes than Dubya).

Poor old Finns. Bet most can’t understand the most powerful country in the world electing someone who isn’t milky white.

#34
I think that most Finns have no problem understanding that the US electorate preferred Obama over his rival; if they had been allowed to vote in the US election, most would probably have voted for him, and most are very happy that he won – and in case people hadn’t figured it out by now, so am I.

“in case people hadn’t figured it out by now, so am I.”

Ok, name one thing he plans to do?

Bobby Jindal for president in 2012… first Republican pres of Indian descent… heh, heh

Obama is like Adolf Hitler.

@36 Winter, like our dear leader KRUDD, your new man Obama has lots of plans. It’s just a pity that like KRUDD that is all they will ever be, plans.

The man is full of piss and wind and when push comes to shove you’ll be left with a hollowman like we are here. All these grand gestures are fine during a campaign but back to the real world now Mr. Obama.

Just like his idea of cleaning out Washington and bringing in new and fresh ideas….. Look at his appointmnets FFS.

Hold on over there Winie, it’s going to be a bumpy ride but never mind, the rest of the world loves him

“All these ‘intellectuals’ in Europe need to hate America to distract themselves from the crappy government they have in Brussels!”

I’ll take the Brussels government, any day, over your comparatively big government, centralized system. Besides, it’s not like America and its fiat money system is anything worth envying these days.

The honeymoon will eventually come to an end.

@40 LOL

you are right the government in Brussels and in Belgium itself is awesome… they have a split country and the government has been paralyzed and unable to do anything due to fighting between the Flemish and the Walloons.

@18 – Hunk

Most foreigners living in Finland were SENT here. Those who mistakenly moved to here of their own will, soon move out or complain. Few actually like it. But for how many their living standards got better, which would be the main reason to come to Finland?

Russian immigration:)) So far I can only see Russian mass emigration, around the world. Who else than former USSR citizens would move there willingly?

What? Mussuka? What?

It’s like Wilska said:

In a democratic, free system the leader is elected by the people. Non-americans haven’t voted in the presidential elections of the United States. This of course means that the president of USA is not the leader of other free, sovereign countries. Those who claim that he is are actually saying that he’s the leader with or without the consent from other countries and that of course means that those other countires are not FREE but under the oppression and dictatorship of the USA and its president. A comparison:

person A: “I’ve decided that I’m your boss.”

person B: “Even though you’re fairly rich and powerful and you could probably punch my lights out if you wanted, I actually don’t work for you and I don’t owe you anything. I also haven’t given you any authority to make decisions on my behalf.”

person A: “It’s all irrelevant. I’m your boss.”

The president of the USA might very well be the most powerful man on the planet and he might be in charge of one of the most influential countries in the world but he surely is NOT the leader of the whole free world. This won’t change until you give the citizens of other free countries the right to vote for their candidate in the presidential elections of the United States. Period.

Sad, but true; most Finns simply can’t fathom the idea of a black president of the USA. They really can’t!! Racism here in Finland is really deep, and most Finns dismiss all black people as being stupid, and poor.

I know exactly what I am talking about, because I am a black person living in Finland. I am always accused of being “aggressive,” when I refuse to put up with the racist bullshit from the Finns, be it at university, or out in the public places!

See,I do not have an inferiority complex; I am from an area where blacks and whites live together peacefully, and where we black people truly demand , and are accorded respect!!

WILL KEEP ON FIGHTING THE RACISM MY OWN WAY IN FINLAND; ONLY HOPE THAT MORE BLACK PEOPLE HERE WOULD JOIN ME! The problem is that most of the black people here are from Africa, and for some weird reason, Africans accept any form of racism dished out to them ! I am totally different, from a differenr part of the world!

Good to see Obama in the White House. Obama’s family is testimony to the fact that there is a large middle class of educated, career driven blacks in the US, and not only the “gangsta” blacks which the media loves to show the rest of the world!!

#46 “most Finns simply can’t fathom the idea of a black president of the USA”

Bullshit! I have yet to meet a Finn who was not really happy that Obama was elected.

CMQ and others who are accusing Finns of being racist and unaccepting towards Obama:

According to all the polls that were done in Finland before the election the overwhelming majority supported Obama. The situation was the same in almost every other country. So there.

And CMQ, nobody deserves any respect on the basis of their skin color. It’s the personality and actions of the person that count.

Wilska and Anonymous . you two deserve a Medal of Finnish National Arrogance.
You may claop your hands for the black president in USA because:
1. everyone else does, so you follow that
2. he is in USA, never would be elected in Finnland
3. he is a president, therefore gets your approval, average Somali or other black citizen in Finland gets what CMQ described. ONLY because of their skin colour.

If you don’t see it, then you are not only liars but stupid too.

#49
Mussukka is drawing some very strange conclusions about what motivates me. I don’t consider myself particularly nationalistic, so any arrogance that I have is personal .

As for your points:

1. I was pleased that Obama won because I think that he was the best electable candidate in the race, and I would have done so even if most Finns had disagreed with me.

2. Of course he would never be elected in Finland. He’s not a Finnish citizen, and even if he were, the Finnish constitution, like the one in the United States, limits the presidency to native-born citizens. For this same reason alone it may be a while before a black person is elected president, simply because there are not many who have been born here. For many voters a candidate’s ethnicity may present something of a threshold, but a number of non-white people have been elected to municipal councils, and I believe that Somali-born Zarah Abdullah actually got fairly close to being elected to Parliament, and Palestinian Ummayya Abu-Hanna came fairly close to getting into the European Parliament.

3. Certainly, many foreigners suffer from racist attitudes in Finland, but not from me.

Quite right Mussaka; it is one thing to say that you will do something, and quite another thing to do it!

Yes, the Finns will say that they would vote for Obama, but only because they know that the the possibility of him running for elections here in Finland is nil! See they will say anything just to ride the popular wave, and not be accused of being racist!

Do not get me wrong; there are some really nice people in Finland. I can attest to that too. They are usually the ones who have travelled overseas, or worked overseas. But for every nice person here, you meet 5 racists!!FACT!!

What hope of integration does a nation have, when the young people, who are supposed to be more open minded, turn out to be the most racist of all??

Finland is a nice country, but most people will never see that , because the actions pf the racists there prevent them from seeing that!

I have never been called the “N word” to my face here, but the Finns actions nonetheless are racist!

No. 48 You are wrong; EVERYONE deserves respect, until their personality and actions prove otherwise!!!

CMQ, could you perhaps describe those racist actions. Must be something I fail to see without guidance…

Didn’t Obama say he wants more transparency in the government? I guess we won’t be seeing these anymore

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWfKdKWJEkM

Now I know why Obama wants more transparency in the government..

www youtube com/watch?v=HWfKdKWJEkM

Mussukka you being an A1 racist case yourself as you really seem to hate Finns and Finland, it should be mentioned at this point that your writings are really quite hypocrite. Basically what you’re implying is that all Finns are racists and especially, you are lining Finns outside Scandinavians. In Finland this, in Finland that, Finns, Finns, Finns etc even though Sweden, Denmark and Norway are very similar countries with very similar people. Prove me wrong.

*yawn*

Tussukka’s two-bit trolling is getting a bit old.

CMQ:
“I have never been called the “N word” to my face here”

Hardly surprising, seeing as you’re only black when trolling on the internets.

Next…

Hi Franky, enjoying the cold are we?

ha ha ha:))) Now the Finns raised their armed hands up – we are not racist, you are!
Bulshit.
You are rasists, nationalists and hypocrits. In every way I see around me. On TV and on a daily basis, even Finns towards other Finns can be liars and backstabbing two-faced shits.
Anonymous, in order to be rasist agains Finns, I would have to be of a different race. Since I am white you can call me anything but racis.
But you are right – I think very little of Finns. And have the reason plus right to do so. Granted by constitution. Your writings full of lies won’t make me change my mind, actions would but that’s like dreaming of having a Sioux in the Finnish government.
Btw. Finland does not belong to Scandinavia, it belongs to Nordic countries. So, don’t take the credit to be same as Swedes or Norwegians or Danish. You are FAR from that.

#59 Mussukka knows: when the logical arguments run out, irrational ranting will always see you through.

Wilska, logical arguments work only for people with some IQ and level of decency. When you meet brainwashed folks, repeating the same slogans like broken record, NOTHING works.

To the individual who accused me of being white; I AM AS BLACK AS CAN BE! Have been told numerous times by even the racist Finns, that I am pleasing to the eyes!This brings me to another good thing about the Finns. I think that they are very easy to give compliments; have received more compliments here, than in my own country!

NB, will refrain from using the adjectives “handsome” or “gorgeous” or “beautiful” or “pretty” in my post, since this will give away my gender, and I really want to remain annonymous!

NO 58.”Hardly surprising, seeing as you’re only black when trolling on the internets.” Perhaps you FF will call me the “N word” next time you see me ! But be prepared for a good slap if you are brave enough to do so !!

“…be prepared for a good slap…”

CMQ, you are not anonymous anymore. I can see that you are a chick lol Is there any good weed where you are from? It is my experience that black people have only the best! You?

CMQ, if you can get me some good weed, then I promise not to call you nasty names

“Btw. Finland does not belong to Scandinavia, it belongs to Nordic countries. So, don’t take the credit to be same as Swedes or Norwegians or Danish. You are FAR from that.”

Jesus.. that’s some hardcore racism right there. Mussuka where are you from? I also want to hate a nation based on the behaviour of one individual.

“Have been told numerous times by even the racist Finns, that I am pleasing to the eyes!”

The way you keep saying “racist Finns” I think you have become a racist yourself. You are prejudging a nation being racist so it’s no wonder you are seeing racists everywhere. People see what they want to see. The next time you go out, keep repeating “Finns are not racists” and see how the world suddenly changes.

We have so few black people in Finland that when I see one in a bar I have no idea should I start with Finnish or English. I have to say moi and wait the response. Most of the time I get no response. Once I saw a black girl in our local Irish Pub. That was the one and only time I have ever seen a black person in an Irish Pub. It could be just me, but sometimes I feel that a part of the racism is caused by the black people with their own behaviour.

Tussukka and “SeeMeePoo” are the one and same troller. You’ve all been punked.

I am a Finn and I am a Scandinavian, thanks. There is no fixed definition of the world to be honest. Not one that everyone agrees on anyway.

I’m also relieved that Obama won. He may still be fairly right wing, but at least by American standards, he doesn’t seem too dangerous for the world.

Punter:
“Hi Franky, enjoying the cold are we?”

Cold? I would be cold if I tried to ski on the ice as only waterskiing is an option.

This is an interesting situation, not unlike the one described by Brecht in his Galileo play. As you may or may not now, he had built a telescope powerful enough to show Jupiter’s moons. The clergymen visiting his observatory would have liked to debate in Latin, based on Church doctrine and Aristotelean logic, whether Jupiter has moons. Galileo would have liked them to look through his telescope.

I don’t need a telescope to see that the sea is not frozen. I have an ample view from my living room window.

you are all envious…typical Finnish attitude…envy

Barrack Obama IS the leader of the free world, drives around in a brand new Cadillac Limo, has two 747 at his disposal, and has more leadership abilities than any Finnish government official serving in the present administration… sorry let me restate that… more leadership abilities than any European leader with the possible exception of Tony Blair

@68,

You silly little ignorant person.

Leadership capabilites have nothing to do with being an officially elected leader. Having traits and abilites that make you a good leader is one thing. Becoming the leader of a group of people is completely another. One doesn’t automatically follow the other. I know it might be a difficult thing to grasp for a person equipped with a limited understanding but please try. Okay? Okay.

#68 “drives around in a brand new Cadillac Limo, has two 747 at his disposal”

So?

” To the individual who accused me of being white; I AM AS BLACK AS CAN BE! ” – CMQ

And how black is that? Is it as black as Nigel Tufnel from Spinal Tap?

Nigel Tufnel: “It’s like, how much more black could this be? and the answer is none. None more black.”

Obama is actually not black. He’s mixed, his mother being white. There’s as much white in him as there’s black.

Oh my!

@68

*sigh*

“I know it might be a difficult thing to grasp for a person equipped with a limited understanding but please try. Okay? Okay.”

I know you are right… after all some people posting here (including you) have have two digit IQ and never read ther newspapers other than Iltalehti

http://www.economist.com/world/unitedstates/displayStory.cfm?story_id=12516666

It is a piece from the Economist (UK)… That’s a magazine a bit more serious than Donald Duck that you and others in forum should read about who is the leader of the free world

#74 Just because The Economist uses the LOTFW expression, doesn’t make it any less insulting.

Anyway, here’s another more recent British comment by columnist Muriel Grey in the Sunday Herals, which largely echoes my sentiments:

http://comments.theherald.co.uk/heraldtalk/2009/01/america-youve-much-to-be-proud-of-but-drop-the-world-leader-idea.php

An extract:

“Had Barack Obama been standing for election here I would doubtless have camped out all night to vote him in. In addition to the integrity of his character I’m particularly fond of his ears. But since we rightly had no say in his election, representing as he does his America citizens and not us, he’s going to have to watch it with that “leading the world” stuff.”

This debate is amusing. Leader of the free world is a meaningless expression used by some people in the media and politics to serve their own agenda and to generally liven up the feel of their coverage. It’s an exciting turn of phrase, nothing more. I don’t see any reason to get particularly upset about its use.

Of course, there is no definition of what constitutes the “free world”, so there certainly can’t be any official leader of it, as you can’t lead something that does not exist as a fixed concept.

Personally, I have difficulty seeing the USA as a potential leader of the free world. It uses execution regularly despite Obama’s recent anti-torture posturings. It has a human rights record that has more in comparison with those shining lights of liberty Saudi Arabia, Iran and China than with most western European (and certainly Scandinavian) countries. Still, no doubt it is a good thing that Obama is president and not the previous incompetent incumbent.

#77 “Leader of the free world is a meaningless expression … I don’t see any reason to get particularly upset about its use.”

Somehow I like to promote clarity in expression; upset or not, I think that it is a subject worth commenting on, as do you, apparently.

“Of course, there is no definition of what constitutes the “free world””

Ain’t that the truth! It’s interesting that various US administrations have managed to see its Latin American “death squad democracies” both as parts of the “free world”, as well as part of its “back yard” – an expression that is a REAL denial of of their sovereignty.

“It is a piece from the Economist (UK)… That’s a magazine a bit more serious than Donald Duck that you and others in forum should read about who is the leader of the free world”

The expression “leader of the free world” is a relic of the Cold War era. It refers to a time when the USA was still being an undisputed leader of the world economy, back when the European Union did not exist as we know it. It’s a damn shame some people in the UK live that far in the past, it would be time for them to start living in the present, accept euro as their currency and accept the fact they are a part of the Union. But some of them still want to be the “51st state”, which is unfortunate for us all.

suck it up republicans ? ohh pullleeeze, Osama BIN OBAMA has not started anything yet,,when he does everything that you will cry about,,ill play the fiddle at your stupidity.

#80 “…Osama BIN OBAMA…”

What razor-sharp wit some people have!

Anonymous. seems your Finnish and “Scandinavian” personality is suffering from some severe multiple identity shock. You keep commenting yourself you troll.
But I belive 100% that you ARE a Finn. And a female too. Which makes it the most creepy mixture. Yök:(

@82

Hey friend, there are several anonymous and I am not related to @79 so stop getting your exercise by jumping into conclusions.

Hmm… maybe Mussuka is a finnish (or foreign) racist/troll who tries to spread racism? And I don’t think she(?) is female either. Maybe 15-year-old boy who just loves to start flame wars.

I think anonymous is hot to trot

Unreal Anonymous as in @84: but of course:) You really made me laugh with those posts of yours. so, keep going:)

Mussuka please seek the help of mental health specialists. You have some serious problems.

On top of being left-of-centre, he’s also left-handed.

Coincidence?

Jason, what does your particular brand of Jesus Taliban do with left-handed people? Is the wrong hand nailed to the table or do you just employ leftover Gitmo shackles while reciting choice passages from Revelation?

Oh, I am a right-hander myself.

#88

Jesus Taliban? You have to be kidding me. That’s like assuming that just because a church has the numbers “666″ as a part of their telephone number that they’re doomed (which is somewhat amusing because Mount Zion Bible Church in Pensacola, Florida has 6666 as the last four numbers in their telephone number).

While your head knowledge may be greater than others (given that you profess to be an atheist (which, IMO, is just another form of idolatry)), there are some things which you may never be fully cognizant of with regards of the work of Almighty God. Thus, you make an assumption which should be expected of someone who not only does not know Christ but who has absolutely no desire to know Him.

FYI, I no longer get bent out of shape over politics. The God whom you deny is actually in complete charge and control – in spite of the chaos you see on the telly. My complete trust and confidence is not in people, organizations and governments. I vote, but I know not to completely rely on them. (Even Ron Paul, himself a Member of Congress, distrusts expanded government.)

With regards to President Obama, it just was an observation, and nothing more. I did not use verses from Revelation to justify what I said because I do not subscribe to that bizarre doctrine. I would expect some others like Tim LaHaye to be that alarmist in their theology, but that is just not me.

Jason, nothing personal, but FFT

… is not where you’re going to get very far with religious babble.

(I hit submit comment too early, apparently)

Jason:
“given that you profess to be an atheist (which, IMO, is just another form of idolatry)”

Dear Jason, we are both atheists. I just believe in one (or three, depending on the interpretation) god less than you.

“there are some things which you may never be fully cognizant of”

True, the mysteries of Scientology being among them. I feel that I’m not missing out on much.

In reality though, I do respect and appreciate genuine faith in the rare occasions that it manifests itself. It’s just the imposing of religious values on other people that I object to. As long as I don’t need to live under shari’ah, I have no problem with Muslims who choose to do so within the confines of Finnish law.

Jason:
“given that you profess to be an atheist (which, IMO, is just another form of idolatry)”

Dear Jason, we are both atheists. I just believe in one (or three, depending on the interpretation) god less than you.

“there are some things which you may never be fully cognizant of”

True, the mysteries of Scientology being among them. I feel that I’m not missing out on much.

In reality though, I do respect and appreciate genuine faith in the rare occasions that it manifests itself. It’s just the imposing of religious values on other people that I object to. As long as I don’t need to live under shari’ah, I have no problem with Muslims who choose to do so within the confines of Finnish law.

a time for the comedy bit of the day, this time it actually fits the subject of the latter comments:

www youtube com/watch?v=Ua5d1ey7kws

Oh my DoG! This was suppose to happen I guess. Jason, who cares about your god? You have yours, I have mine, others have theirs and so on. It is called Freedom. Have you heard about it?
Being an atheist is not a form of idolatry. It just means one does not believe anything spiritual. That is all. An atheist does not worship a bleeding crucified man or god who does not appear anywhere. That is all.
A heathen like myself believes in something but not in your funny Jesus-story or that weird story about a guy called Muhammed who was and is the only guy to whom god ever spoke directly and told everything. These both concepts are hilarious and not too credible so I do not believe in them.
And how the hell you know what Jesus thinks about Obama or government or politics in general? I mean, that guy called Jesus, or Yeshua to be precise, died couple thouands of years ago (if he did lived at all). He can not be around, talking to you, anymore than I can be there right now, at this second, KAZAM! See?

Kinkku sam: You poor creepled thing, your enlighten by the Finnish science mind will most definitely lead you to either alcoholism or even more probable suicide. And then, well..your mortal remains will be just minced and threw away to dustbin. As you are NOTHING else but a piece of meat. Congratulations on your self-confidence you idiot.

Mussuka, man you are a pathetic excuse of a human being. Do as all a favour and seek some help for your delusions. TEH Intranets is not the solution

Make it funky now, Tussukka!

#92:

How on earth would you even consider me to be an atheist? That just does not make any logical sense.

Dave the Revelator: Not every participator in this forum would agree with you. A vast majority? Yes. Unanimously? Besides me, no. After all, “winter” comes around here quite often (from what I’ve seen).

#95: You question if Jesus ever lived. I could tell you that the Bible proves this but you would probably dismiss that. Fair enough. Secular sources which were penned around that time also confirm this. Josephus is the best known example. Pliny the Younger is another non-Christian source.

For everyone’s perusal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNFCTSfm1cs
Watching that video was quite sobering…

Funny, how many aggressive Finns one can meet on every public forum. Like a national virus or disease.
I have to say that if your bodies are as dirty as the language you use, there is not strong enough disinfectant to keep you clean.
Probably mostly women here, sounds like Finnbitches group barking. But at the wrong tree this time:)))))))))))

Envy, envy.

Mussuka, get help before you hurt someone.

http://www.paihdelinkki.fi/foreigner-info/crisis-prevention-center

The crisis prevention center for foreigners works to help all foreigners living in Finland as well as their families to cope with psychological and social problems.

Post number 99. is a prime textbook example of projection: The person projects his or her own reactions, thoughts and emotions onto others as he or she can’t handle and come to terms with them as a part of his or her own personality.

Dave: Tussukka’s pidgin, despite the awkward attempts at misspelling Finnish words, strongly suggests that “she” is Finnish. Probably one of those lackeys of Hullu-uho trying to provoke intolerance against foreigners.

Hey, Franklin, don’t harsh on my troll-baiting.

Oh, Elevator and Franklin together again:) Nice to be in the circus for free with two clowns performing so eagerly. Better than any help centers Elevator – watching Finns flying high like baloons filled with hatred:)))))

All hail President Obama, the leader of the free world–even Pres. Clinton shot missiles like so many pieces of candy whenever the heat came down in America. When the U.S. economy grows worse (than even Europe), watch out for more missiles. Those innumerable flying drones (Predators, Global Hawks and the like) with their cameras and missiles will help take the heat off Pres. Obama too. Who needs nuclear bombs when you have everything else at your disposal? Now THAT is power… not just a couple aging jet fighters…defense-my rear.

I’m always happy to perform for you, Tussuka.

As for #111, I guess the honeymoon is officially over. Jenkit kotiin Ameriikasta!