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8.1.2009

Three People Killed in Shooting in Jyväskylä

Tags: Uncategorized — Author: @ 10:45 am

More info from H.S...

News is coming in of a shooting in the Central Finland city of Jyväskylä that has left three people dead, all of them men.
Emergency services received a call about shots being fired just after 8 a.m. this morning, after which six police units and emergency vehicles were despatched to an apartment block in the Pupuhuhta district of the city.

Inspector Arto Rajala reported that police had surrounded the crime scene and evacuated people from the surrounding apartments while awaiting the arrival of a canine unit and an armed swat team.
Calls to the apartment and shouts through the mailbox flap were not answered.
After an hour the specialist officers broke in and arrested those inside.
The bodies of two men, both shot, were found from the courtyard of the building when the police arrived, and a third man was found dead in the apartment. All had apparently died of gunshot wounds. Speaking at a press briefing in the late morning Insp. Rajala noted that the police had not been fully aware of how many persons were in the apartment at the time they broke down the door, or whether there would be an armed response to their entry.

An hour after the events, Rajala could not confirm details of whether there had been a firefight in the building, who the victims were, and whether the main perpetrator was among them. It later became clear that the gunman was among those killed.
A woman and two children were also found alive in the apartment. The children have been handed over to social workers.
Rajala was also unable to confirm whether the woman was the child’s mother, and there were no immediate details given of the other relationships involved or the ethnic background of the victims and others.
It is known that the apartment block contains some Finnish Roma families, but there has been no confirmation that this may have been an internal feud between Roma families.

Rajala later told the Finnish Broadcasting Company that two weapons were located in the apartment and that a total of eight persons had been present. Responsibility will now pass to the National Bureau of Investigation, Finland’s central criminal police arm.
What is known is that all those involved are in police hands.
Those persons who were earlier evacuated from their homes will be allowed to return as soon as forensic officers have completed their work. They will be offered crisis counselling.

  • Yang

    It is horrible. Happened in such a small and beautiful city I live now…

  • Mussuka

    Surprise surprise. Any dickhead here can have a gun and since Finns do not know the word “discuss” they go straight into actions.

  • Hank W.

    Multiculturalism in action.

  • http://koti.phnet.fi/bevertje/ majava

    Shooting took place at 8 and this is all they can say? With so many words?

  • Hank W.

    Well if they have some other people at large or they’re trying to prevent the feud escalating they probably are clamming up for a reason.

  • http://www.finlandforthought.net Phil

    Rajala was also unable to confirm whether the woman was the child’s mother, and there were no immediate details given of the other relationships involved or the ethnic background of the victims and others.
    It is known that the apartment block contains some Finnish Roma families, but there has been no confirmation that this may have been an internal feud between Roma families.

    Heh, Hesari is basically saying, “We don’t know their ethnic backgrounds, but let’s comment on it anyways: there’s a few gypsies in the building, maybe it’s one of their weird cultural feuds again that we have no understanding of”

  • Hank W.

    Its the HS political correctness censorship. You read about that 3-year old that got stabbed by his father. The stupid Finnish women were screaming their arses blue about how terrible drunks the Finnish men are, when then there was a sidelined piece that the police investigation was halted as they couldn’t find an interpreter for arabic. This piece of news got the gun-control crowd demanding the banning of handguns and being in choir how violent the Finnish men are. The einsteins don’t realise that unlicenced handguns are illegal already.

    You need to be able to read in between the lines – the newspapers lie profoundly blaming the heterosexual ethnic Finn for everything. You need to be able to read between the lines like you were reading the Pravda.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, it’s been pretty much confirmed already that the shooters were Roma, but Hesari will be the last to admit it.

  • Anonymous

    @7

    “…blaming the heterosexual ethnic Finn for everything.”

    That’s because they are the most prone to alcoholism and anti social behavior…

    remember Kauhajoki and Jokela ? Wacked out Finns

  • Winter

    so thats a good use of FREE Healthcare

  • ass

    Winter, you’re one sick puppy but I love you anyway.

  • CMQ

    Hate the fact that the children were turned over to social workers.

    Shouldn’t children who have been exposed to such trauma be kept with their families?? It is ok for social workers to provide counselling to the children, but I am totally against children being taken away from their families! This , in my opinion, is one of the flaws of the “nanny state.”

    Children who have been through such trauma should be kept with their parents(as long as the parents are not perpetrators of the crimes involved), and social workers should work along with the parents towards the wellbeing of the children!

  • Winter

    3 dead, the healthcare was great, can we have some more……

    free, so there was no line, before they offed themselves.

    Great, now if we could only improve on this.

  • S.

    This coverage is so uncomplete. Why is that?

  • Hank W.

    #12 Do small children belong in jail?

  • Hank W.

    Well, the HS Int’l has something
    http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Shooting+in+Jyv%C3%A4skyl%C3%A4+apparently+involved+internal+disputes+between+Roma+people/1135242610802

    The HS in Finnish has more or less of what happened:
    http://www.hs.fi/kotimaa/artikkeli/Jyv%C3%A4skyl%C3%A4n+ammuskelun+taustalla+huoltajuusriita+%E2%80%93+is%C3%A4+kuoli/1135242614902

    So, the 27-year old father and his 28-year old brother came from Turku to meet the ex-wife and 2 kids who were living with her sister in Jyväskylä. The ladies got worried when the men demanded entry and called up their parents, mother and 54-year old father living in the same house. The situation escalated into a gunfight with the 27,28 and 54 year olds dead. The police have today arested the three women and a 9th person, a male who is also suspected of being at the scene. The police have no clear picture of who fired the two guns found at the scene and are not ruling any of the deaths as suicide. Police are continuing the crime scene investigation and forensics.

  • sam tha ham

    9# Hey anonymous! I think part of the problem with those school shooters in Finland as in US is that they are not heterosexuals. As a matter of fact, they do not seem to be sexuals at all. Maybe if they had have some love in one form or another the shootings would have not happened.

  • Keijo

    Why so critical? No shooting has happened in any other country?

  • Winter

    Critical? Of Finland? Say it is not so.

  • Op

    3 people dead..film at 11.

  • Dave the Revelator

    Not to sound self-righteous, and admittedly there isn’t a whole hell of a lot going on in Finland, but there is decidedly more going on here than domestic violence and that fat black dude on you tube.

  • Dave the Revelator

    LIKE…

    Labour protection officials are looking into new weapons to help combat the grey economy. Officials may soon have access to confidential information from the tax authorities and pension institutions, reports Turun Sanomat.

    Officials working with uncovering undeclared work say strict data protection laws currently hamper their investigations.

    The Confederation of Finnish Industries opposes the move, whereas the Federation of Finnish Enterprises and the Central Organisation of Finnish Trade Unions welcome broadened liberties for investigators.

    The Ministry of Social Affairs and Health says the new law should be passed into effect as soon as possible.

    YLE

  • Anonymous

    Phil’s spot on. Institutionalised racism in Finland from a xenophobic media – who would have thought it?

  • http://koti.phnet.fi/bevertje/ majava

    There are some problems with this blog… I mean “go away, retard”? And still nobody knows where the comments went?!

  • Winter

    Somoli Pirates at work…. Did Phil send them some money?

  • Hank W.

    They went with the hacker.

  • http://q-funk.iki.fi Martin-Éric

    I was gonna ask about that: where did the comment to the older posts went?

  • Winter

    e-bay has the other comments, please bid high

  • Hank W.

    Just today the unravelling… the mother(arrested) and father(dead) had a criminal record both. And the 9th man is released but the 3 women are still in custody as theres forensics testing of a 3rd gun and who was shooting…

    Meanwhile we still need to blame racism and Finnish men for everything.

  • Freeridin’ Franklin

    #24: Along with the IP addresses and whatever other snooped information from the commenters?

  • Hank W.

    Back to the issue – two of the women have been released. A third woman remains in custody. According to the forensiics testing all the three men involved had been armed. Flower-hatted aunties have been demanding the banning of Turku.

  • Anonymous

    Honestly who fucking cares? People get killed all the time. Some twats that shot each other *yawn*

  • another suicide
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