She also says she was offered 90,000 to 100,000 euros in hush-money if she agreed to resign quietly.

very interesting..

First school shootings and now this. Welcome to (a poor man’s) America.

Embarassing I say. Alma Media just showed what idiots they are. I mean, who doesn’t understand why somebody loves a woman? Every straight guy understand this. We love women. Alma Media doesn’t?

I like inflateable dolls…give me a LAPIN KULTA!

She lied on the intake interview.

Case closed folks, its a Clinton case all in repeat mode in Finland.

winter…. how was/is your trip to Suomi!?

nice trip, did the Sauna thing. Bought out Stockmans…Gee why do they have to have a crane on the roof.. it just messes up shopping.

Had raindeer, saw where Phil works? I think….

winter was here? That explains the cold weather lately

Hah..I brought you good weather, no rain, slightly cold…perfect for walking around downtown.

Can’t help you now that I left, but if you want we can fire up the Hummer, and help global warming some.

winter…did you make quick trip to Tallinn!?

Winter, öööhhh… She lied? Like how? I do not know how it is in your country but in ours the reasons Alma Media came up first(gay, politically active partner) are not legal reasons for kickin anybody out from a job. Actually one of the editors in one of their papers has a wife whos been active on municipal politics for years but that did not bother them (right party I guess, center).
Then after somebody told them about the law, they came up with this “she lied” line, which sounds a lot like republican bible toting red neck ignorant style bullshit to me. Actually the boss of Alma Media said all these reasons in an interview in yesterdays Iltasanomat, one at a time. Depending the time. So, it is really embarassing for them. No doubt.

I think that what Telanne refers to as “lying” is the failure of Korhonen to correct his presumption that her spouse is MALE. Which, of course, she has no obligation what so ever to do. He also stated that she “should have disclosed the fact that she is living with a woman”, and that her spouse, in addition to being of wrong sex, has political opinions of wrong color (the whole Alma media concern is heavily Keskusta-Kokoomus-oriented). Both requirements are against the law. Case closed.

I found the blabberings of the retiring main editor of Lapin Kansa almost hilarious: one should read it back-to-back with Alma’s statements of their career opportunities web page, ending : “At Alma Media, you will be working in a fair, dynamic environment”.Indeed, if you happen to be heterosexual, white,Center-party voting middle aged christian guy with a housewife with no opinions as a spouse.

I would not like to be the media connection representative of Alma – what a bunch of blabbering idiots they have in management.

“Both requirements are against the law.” except the little white lie…which leads to the case of a lack of trust, thus no job.

Look folks, you need to fire anyone who would pull such a prank, or you will just get an office of slimy worms, and the resulting productivity that brings,

I say good by lady.

Fuck big media!! Who cares if she’s lying or not, it’s just fun to see them crash and burn like this!

“Who cares if she’s lying or not” is so true.

Look if you are lesbian, )Open and in your face lesbian>, then gee disclose it, do the truth thingie, not the hide behind some law thingie.

You would then be surpised at how you will be accepted, for telling the entire truth, and you would get the job, and be successful in that job.

All because you told the entire truth….. geee its that simple.

http://www.hs.fi/karlsson (3.10.2008)

winter that’s a great ideal, but the truth is – according to Alma Media themselves that is! – that they would never ever hire an openly lesbian editor-in-chief.

The law is there so this attitude might one day change. That’s called progress and the free market solution to this (let companies hire and fire whoever for whatever reason) would be a lot slower and would result in bigger regional differences in culture: liberal cities and conservative rural areas, and then we’d get the kind of culture wars you have in the states.

Öööh… winter, she was not asked about it in the first place and besides who cares who you are married to? I do not know how it is where you live but in Finland that is your private life. As it should be. Unfortunately this corporate shit (unfortunately again an american corporate model too) is creeping here where your private life is not yours any more but belongs to your employer. That by the way is one definition of slavery.
And about telling the truth, how about the Alma Media chief telling the truth? He’s been telling all kinds of truths in this case. Not too convincing, eh? And by the way, did you tell your employer how many times a week or what kind of sex you prefer with whom? I bet you did not, so…

#16

- that they would never ever hire an openly lesbian editor-in-chief.

…then how does the Lutheran Church get away with shit like that?

11, she lied. get over it and eat your fat makara with cheese.

Phil, i agree. hahahaha

#17 “…but the truth is – according to Alma Media themselves that is! – that they would never ever hire an openly lesbian editor-in-chief.”

Actually Alma Media isn’t saying that: they’re saying that the problem was that Korhonen lied, but they aren’t really being very forthcoming about the reasons. It’s the soon-to-retire editor of the newspaper who said that Alma Media should have checked her background better, saying that he didn’t want to be succeeded by a lesbian.

It will be really interesting to see how this plays out.

You got that right Phil!! How the hell church gets away with anything?

” one definition of slavery”

that what we say about your Nanny State……..

@25: There’s the pot calling the kettle black…

What is taking 60% of your wealth mean…..slavery comes to mind as its real close to what slavery was and did to folks. Keeping you under a slave yoke….

It is effective.

Winter seems to be one of those ignorants who do not know what he is talking about. Nobody loses 60% of their wealth in Finland and yet we have better social security than you ever had in your country. The highest income tax rate is about 50% but the rich do not get their wealth as salary. I do not know what is in english but is the money they get from stocks of their companies. And for that they pay 28% of taxes. So buahahhaahhahaa Winter. Get the facts right next time when you try to wiggle away from the corporate slave culture that you advocate. By the way, the highest american tax was 91% and that was up untill 1964. And it went under seventy only in the 80′s so look who’s talking buahhahhaahhahhaah! DDDDD

#28. The 80s was when American Christians discovered that the Bible bits about the money-changers in the temple weren’t really written by God anyway. Then they turned away from Mammon-bashing, and got into gay-bashing and foetus-hugging and making money instead. Which explains a lot about where we are now.

This person seems like a typical socialist-era whiner. Instead of starting her own company and presenting her ideas to the world on her own terms, she screams out: “I demand that you let me work for YOUR company!”

Unfortunately, America is full of her kind, too. It’s not just lesbians and gays, mind you. Those screams are heard from Muzzies, Christians and probably even Crustaceans.

Everybody wants the security of a parent-child relationship in the form of employment, but as children they want to tell the parent how it goes!

Will personal initiative and entrepreneurism ever be rewarded enough (via tax policy and favorable regulation) so that these conflicts become a relic of the past?

Sam… your tax rate is published. You should read up. Its 40% plus a 20% vat.

#30 “This person seems like a typical socialist-era whiner. Instead of starting her own company and presenting her ideas to the world on her own terms, she screams out: “I demand that you let me work for YOUR company!””

Actually, she was given the job, and Alma Media reneged on the deal when they found out she was gay, and didn’t even have the balls to admit it. Korhonen showed character by turning down the 100 grand in hush money that they offered her.

If anyone is whining in this one, it’s Alma Media.

Jussi, if somebody had first hired you and then said, sorry, we can’t employ you for some ridiculous reason, wouldn’t you start a fight in a court rather than start your own company?

Doesn’t it matter at all to you that they had already made the decision to hire her? Shouldn’t such a thing count in a society based on entrepreneurship? Maybe you just want everything done as the employers want it, legally or not and screw the employees.

Doesn’t anyone have the right to apply for work at any company? You’re blaming her for them making the decision to employ her and then trying to backtrack in a fashion that makes no sense. At least to me Alma Media has zero credibility after this.

K. Wilska – according to Korhonen herself (the memo she had written was widely published) they did say to her exactly that. Of course she might be lying but I trust her more because of all the dubious reasons Alma Media have given us (of which many are in direct contradiction of the law and their own policies).

Phil – what exactly do you mean by “…then how does the Lutheran Church get away with shit like that”? I don’t think the Church is exempt from the equality laws any more than Alma Media is. If you mean the gay marriage thing it’s not such a clear violation of the law, and I think it’s about to change anyway.

No Helsinkian, none of those things you mentioned would bother me. They should simply be held to whatever contract they signed. At most, they should pay her moving expenses (if there were any), and possibly a few week’s lost wages.

It seems like she got herself hired for this position at a conservative newspaper so that she could then say, “Ha ha, you just hired me, a lesbian, to be your editor-in-chief! Now what are you going to do about it?” I don’t know if that’s accurate, but it seems like something that only a troublemaker would do.

It would be like running for a church committee position, and then declaring, “Oh, by the way, I’m a Satanist” upon being elected. Or visa versa.

Generally, I believe that society should adopt a more entreneurial approach to work – but that entrepreneurism by individuals should be weighted more favorably than big corporations, in the legal and tax sense.

As such, anyone should be able to hire anyone else based on whatever criteria they agree upon. In essence, it would be the same way you hire a plumber or barber or financial specialist. Could any of these sue in court if they felt discriminated against? No, of course not.

Satanists in church positions are not the same thing as lesbians working for Alma Media.

I don’t think anyone expects the editor-in-chief of Lapin Kansa to participate in an anti-gay crusade. A Satanist in the church is supposed to condemn Satanism and thus ends up in a difficult and schizophrenic position.

Neither Keskusta nor Kokoomus has a generally anti-gay agenda that requires support for discrimination from their mouthpieces. It would be a totally different thing for a Republican Party organ in a red state in the US. The anti-gay agenda simply lacks the legitimacy in Finland that it has in places like Alabama or Iran. It is mostly a muslim fundamentalist and extreme right thing here.

Alma Media, after all, said they didn’t fire her because she is a lesbian. They fired her because her partner is a candidate (perhaps for the wrong party) in the municipal elections in Vantaa, an issue of apparently enormous significance for the readers in Rovaniemi.

That is still illegal reason to kick anybpdy out from any job, Helsinkian. And there is the one editor who’s spuse has been in Kemi politics for years. That has never been a problem for Alma Media, so it muts be the wrong party this time. Or gay thing.

great typo from me this hour in the morning DDD

“was hired to the Eastern Lapland regional newspaper Lapin Kansa”

It’s not actually Eastern. It covers the whole Lapland.