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		<title>By: Ron Hyatt</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2008/08/07/the-gilmore-girls-get-stuck-in-helsinki/comment-page-1/#comment-380326</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Hyatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2010 08:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t get me started on fake southern accents, either.</description>
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		<title>By: hfb</title>
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		<dc:creator>hfb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#39 noname - It snowed sideways for 3 days and if the total snowfall wasn&#039;t 2 metres, then the drifts in the centre where I lived certainly were.  Even so, the whole comedy skit was just that, COMEDY. Everyone knows that people with that kind of cash would get the fuck outta there. :)

Freeridin - they weren&#039;t mashed, they were fly covered liquified potatoes. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#39 noname &#8211; It snowed sideways for 3 days and if the total snowfall wasn&#8217;t 2 metres, then the drifts in the centre where I lived certainly were.  Even so, the whole comedy skit was just that, COMEDY. Everyone knows that people with that kind of cash would get the fuck outta there. <img src='http://www.finlandforthought.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Freeridin &#8211; they weren&#8217;t mashed, they were fly covered liquified potatoes. <img src='http://www.finlandforthought.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Freeridin' Franklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freeridin' Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hfb:
&quot;Wow…sounds like Wilska needs an enema administered by a hot Swedish nurse&quot;

Yep, next thing we know, he&#039;ll be crying about some store clerk&#039;s cute remark about mashed potatoes for years on end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hfb:<br />
&#8220;Wow…sounds like Wilska needs an enema administered by a hot Swedish nurse&#8221;</p>
<p>Yep, next thing we know, he&#8217;ll be crying about some store clerk&#8217;s cute remark about mashed potatoes for years on end.</p>
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		<title>By: Hank W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hank W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 12:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got a little video of the after-effects of the snow. See now when they ploughed it the piles were over 2m tall... the bizarro part was it fell mainly in the city and right on the coast, so like above ring I it was just ankle-deep and above ring III it was &quot;what snow&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got a little video of the after-effects of the snow. See now when they ploughed it the piles were over 2m tall&#8230; the bizarro part was it fell mainly in the city and right on the coast, so like above ring I it was just ankle-deep and above ring III it was &#8220;what snow&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: -</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 11:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hfb, why don&#039;t you try discussing the issue instead of personally insulting Wilska? He/she pointed out your lie about the &quot;close to 2m&quot; so would be nice to hear your response (on the subject, not on Wilska&#039;s lack of sense of humour).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hfb, why don&#8217;t you try discussing the issue instead of personally insulting Wilska? He/she pointed out your lie about the &#8220;close to 2m&#8221; so would be nice to hear your response (on the subject, not on Wilska&#8217;s lack of sense of humour).</p>
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		<title>By: K. Wilska</title>
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		<dc:creator>K. Wilska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 23:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#37 Actually, people who know me know that I have a great sense of humour!

Trouble is that far too many scriptwriters seem to get their background information from a guy they met at a pub.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#37 Actually, people who know me know that I have a great sense of humour!</p>
<p>Trouble is that far too many scriptwriters seem to get their background information from a guy they met at a pub.</p>
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		<title>By: hfb</title>
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		<dc:creator>hfb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 23:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow...sounds like Wilska needs an enema administered by a hot Swedish nurse, stat! Jesus, you should hang around drunk people and correct their sense of humour and hyperbole because, you know, they might mislead someone. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;sounds like Wilska needs an enema administered by a hot Swedish nurse, stat! Jesus, you should hang around drunk people and correct their sense of humour and hyperbole because, you know, they might mislead someone. <img src='http://www.finlandforthought.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: K. Wilska</title>
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		<dc:creator>K. Wilska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 20:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But I admit that the adrenaline injection scene in Pulp Fiction may have been reasonably funny. Trouble is, that some people take things that they see and hear in movies and on TV (especially productions that are not overtly in the sci-fi fantasy genre) more seriously than they should, and for that reason, dialogue put in the mouths of professionals in TV and film scripts should undergo at least a modicum of fact-checking. I think that Tarantino could have made the OD scene at least as funny as it was without spreading serious misinformation about first aid. 

In addition to geographic and ethnographic howlers, I mentioned the gold paint suffocation bit in Goldfinger: I actually heard a teacher tell a class that the notion that a head-to-toe paint job could result in suffocation was actually a fact. She was American, not Finnish: apocryphal urban legends spread by Finnish teachers tend to focus on the dangers of drugs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I admit that the adrenaline injection scene in Pulp Fiction may have been reasonably funny. Trouble is, that some people take things that they see and hear in movies and on TV (especially productions that are not overtly in the sci-fi fantasy genre) more seriously than they should, and for that reason, dialogue put in the mouths of professionals in TV and film scripts should undergo at least a modicum of fact-checking. I think that Tarantino could have made the OD scene at least as funny as it was without spreading serious misinformation about first aid. </p>
<p>In addition to geographic and ethnographic howlers, I mentioned the gold paint suffocation bit in Goldfinger: I actually heard a teacher tell a class that the notion that a head-to-toe paint job could result in suffocation was actually a fact. She was American, not Finnish: apocryphal urban legends spread by Finnish teachers tend to focus on the dangers of drugs.</p>
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		<title>By: K. Wilska</title>
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		<dc:creator>K. Wilska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 19:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#33
&quot;if I recall correctly, that scene made the theatre burst out in shocked laughter&quot;

What does that prove? Once when I saw Psycho, there was deafening laughter from the audience during the shower scene. Still, I don&#039;t think that Hitchcock intended to make a comedy - apart from that last internal monologue by Norman Bates, perhaps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#33<br />
&#8220;if I recall correctly, that scene made the theatre burst out in shocked laughter&#8221;</p>
<p>What does that prove? Once when I saw Psycho, there was deafening laughter from the audience during the shower scene. Still, I don&#8217;t think that Hitchcock intended to make a comedy &#8211; apart from that last internal monologue by Norman Bates, perhaps.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave the Extrapolator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave the Extrapolator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 19:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On that note, why don&#039;t we discuss why Tarantino decided to mislead the moviegoing public that they are able to draw squares in mid-air with our fingers, like Mia (Uma Thurmann) did as they were arriving to the theme restaurant?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On that note, why don&#8217;t we discuss why Tarantino decided to mislead the moviegoing public that they are able to draw squares in mid-air with our fingers, like Mia (Uma Thurmann) did as they were arriving to the theme restaurant?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave the Extrapolator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave the Extrapolator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 19:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wilska, if I recall correctly, that scene made the theatre burst out in shocked laughter... Black humor, ever heard of it? ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wilska, if I recall correctly, that scene made the theatre burst out in shocked laughter&#8230; Black humor, ever heard of it? <img src='http://www.finlandforthought.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: K. Wilska</title>
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		<dc:creator>K. Wilska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 19:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#31

The scene in Pulp Fiction that I mentioned wasn&#039;t particularly humorous: it was simply an example of sloppy scriptwriting.</description>
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<p>The scene in Pulp Fiction that I mentioned wasn&#8217;t particularly humorous: it was simply an example of sloppy scriptwriting.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave the Extrapolator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave the Extrapolator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 19:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>**and the notion promoted in Pulp Fiction that administering an injection of of adrenaline directly into the heart muscle is a good way to revive someone who has overdosed on heroin.**

What is the correct way to revive someone who suffers a lack of sense of humor? Sounds like you need a scoobie break.

;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>**and the notion promoted in Pulp Fiction that administering an injection of of adrenaline directly into the heart muscle is a good way to revive someone who has overdosed on heroin.**</p>
<p>What is the correct way to revive someone who suffers a lack of sense of humor? Sounds like you need a scoobie break.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.finlandforthought.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: K. Wilska</title>
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		<dc:creator>K. Wilska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#25: &quot;Oh, and actually I do remember a snowstorm in 2004 (if I recall correctly) that dumped close to 2 metres on the center...&quot;

Depends on what you mean by &quot;close&quot;. 

At the beginning of February in 2004 there was, indeed, an extremely heavy snowstorm by Helsinki standards. Nevertheless, the amount of snow that came down (less than 50 centimetres) was closer to zero than it is to two metres.

A meteorologist interviewed at the time
http://www.freeyourmind.fi/toimittajat/orolma/2004/lumipyry010204.php
said that snowstorms of that magnitude occur about once every ten years.

&quot;...and they closed Vantaa and the plane landed in Oulu where I had to take a train home from. It happens…though infrequently.&quot;

Indeed, there was an interruption to air traffic to Helsinki &quot;for several hours&quot;, according to accounts at the time. I challenge anyone to produce evidence of a situation in which Helsinki-Vantaa would have been snowed in for days on end, as the Gilmore Girls clip suggests.

But don&#039;t get me wrong: my point here is not to wail about Americans getting inaccurate information specifically about Finland on US TV and cinema; a couple of examples that I mentioned earlier had nothing to do with Finland. 

If we look at the Westerns of John Ford, &quot;My Darling Clementine&quot; was supposed to take place in Tombstone, in the south of what was then Arizona territory. However, the set was obviously placed in Monument Valley, in the north. Another John Ford movie, Cheyenne Autumn (Credited as the first one in which Ford takes a sympathetic view of the plight of Native Americans), injects a certain amount of realism by having actual Indians play Indian roles, and speaking an Indian language with English subtitles. A friend of mine who knows something about these things says that the movie is a cult favourite on the Navajo reservation in Arizona, because the &quot;Cheyenne&quot; Indians in the scenes are in fact, speaking Navajo - and what they say differs significantly from what the subtitles suggest.

Other cases that come to mind is the suggestion in the Bond movie Goldfinger that covering a person&#039;s body in gold paint will cause that person to die of &quot;suffocation&quot; for lack of oxygen to the skin, and the notion promoted in Pulp Fiction that administering an injection of of adrenaline directly into the heart muscle is a good way to revive someone who has overdosed on heroin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#25: &#8220;Oh, and actually I do remember a snowstorm in 2004 (if I recall correctly) that dumped close to 2 metres on the center&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Depends on what you mean by &#8220;close&#8221;. </p>
<p>At the beginning of February in 2004 there was, indeed, an extremely heavy snowstorm by Helsinki standards. Nevertheless, the amount of snow that came down (less than 50 centimetres) was closer to zero than it is to two metres.</p>
<p>A meteorologist interviewed at the time<br />
<a href="http://www.freeyourmind.fi/toimittajat/orolma/2004/lumipyry010204.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.freeyourmind.fi/toimittajat/orolma/2004/lumipyry010204.php</a><br />
said that snowstorms of that magnitude occur about once every ten years.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;and they closed Vantaa and the plane landed in Oulu where I had to take a train home from. It happens…though infrequently.&#8221;</p>
<p>Indeed, there was an interruption to air traffic to Helsinki &#8220;for several hours&#8221;, according to accounts at the time. I challenge anyone to produce evidence of a situation in which Helsinki-Vantaa would have been snowed in for days on end, as the Gilmore Girls clip suggests.</p>
<p>But don&#8217;t get me wrong: my point here is not to wail about Americans getting inaccurate information specifically about Finland on US TV and cinema; a couple of examples that I mentioned earlier had nothing to do with Finland. </p>
<p>If we look at the Westerns of John Ford, &#8220;My Darling Clementine&#8221; was supposed to take place in Tombstone, in the south of what was then Arizona territory. However, the set was obviously placed in Monument Valley, in the north. Another John Ford movie, Cheyenne Autumn (Credited as the first one in which Ford takes a sympathetic view of the plight of Native Americans), injects a certain amount of realism by having actual Indians play Indian roles, and speaking an Indian language with English subtitles. A friend of mine who knows something about these things says that the movie is a cult favourite on the Navajo reservation in Arizona, because the &#8220;Cheyenne&#8221; Indians in the scenes are in fact, speaking Navajo &#8211; and what they say differs significantly from what the subtitles suggest.</p>
<p>Other cases that come to mind is the suggestion in the Bond movie Goldfinger that covering a person&#8217;s body in gold paint will cause that person to die of &#8220;suffocation&#8221; for lack of oxygen to the skin, and the notion promoted in Pulp Fiction that administering an injection of of adrenaline directly into the heart muscle is a good way to revive someone who has overdosed on heroin.</p>
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		<title>By: chic_sheik</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 08:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I almost never agree with Hank, but he is totally spot on about asshole cops in the USA. 

They make the Kela employees look like Mother Teresa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I almost never agree with Hank, but he is totally spot on about asshole cops in the USA. </p>
<p>They make the Kela employees look like Mother Teresa.</p>
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