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	<title>Comments on: Finland&#8217;s little secret: No one actually likes winter sports</title>
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		<title>By: BartonChristy</title>
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		<dc:creator>BartonChristy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 08:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mathew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mathew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 07:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was born and raised in the great state of Nebraska and after 29 years of joyous living there, i moved to Georgia. Having done this, my whole perception on cold weather has completely changed. Being much further south i was under the impression that temps would be marginally higher during the winter months, but generally they haven&#039;t. For the most part, the winters are just a little shorter from start and finish. The really, REALLY big factor that gives Nebraska that &quot;horrible&quot; winter edge is windchill. There is absolutely nothing there to block the wind, and it&#039;s entirely common for wind to be into the 30mph area for what seems like weeks. In fact, the wind used to make the pioneers go crazy and they often wrote about their disdain for it. Now i can honestly jest at my new Georgia neighbors when it goes below 0 degrees C, with 2 inches of snow on the ground and everyone reacts like it&#039;s the holocaust. Everyone runs to the stores and buys up all the milk and bread that they can...which i&#039;m still puzzled by. 

In a way, i miss that harsh cold. There is something rewarding about challenging nature and defying it (i.e. scraping windows, unburying a car, and driving on slick roads only when you really REALLY have to go somewhere).

I can only read and try to create a concept of how winters are in Finland (i&#039;m interested in visiting). I&#039;d still rather be living in Nebraska than Georgia (my life situation doesn&#039;t allow that to change) because of the numerous other reasons: nicer people, quieter atmosphere, scenic sunsets, less frantic lifestyles. Places here have kind of lost their sense of neighborism, nobody interacts with each other except for in the churches. Back where i was from, you needed to know your neighbors. When you got snowed in for days, they may be the only people you can rely on.

Great site btw, i&#039;ve enjoyed all the reads!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was born and raised in the great state of Nebraska and after 29 years of joyous living there, i moved to Georgia. Having done this, my whole perception on cold weather has completely changed. Being much further south i was under the impression that temps would be marginally higher during the winter months, but generally they haven&#8217;t. For the most part, the winters are just a little shorter from start and finish. The really, REALLY big factor that gives Nebraska that &#8220;horrible&#8221; winter edge is windchill. There is absolutely nothing there to block the wind, and it&#8217;s entirely common for wind to be into the 30mph area for what seems like weeks. In fact, the wind used to make the pioneers go crazy and they often wrote about their disdain for it. Now i can honestly jest at my new Georgia neighbors when it goes below 0 degrees C, with 2 inches of snow on the ground and everyone reacts like it&#8217;s the holocaust. Everyone runs to the stores and buys up all the milk and bread that they can&#8230;which i&#8217;m still puzzled by. </p>
<p>In a way, i miss that harsh cold. There is something rewarding about challenging nature and defying it (i.e. scraping windows, unburying a car, and driving on slick roads only when you really REALLY have to go somewhere).</p>
<p>I can only read and try to create a concept of how winters are in Finland (i&#8217;m interested in visiting). I&#8217;d still rather be living in Nebraska than Georgia (my life situation doesn&#8217;t allow that to change) because of the numerous other reasons: nicer people, quieter atmosphere, scenic sunsets, less frantic lifestyles. Places here have kind of lost their sense of neighborism, nobody interacts with each other except for in the churches. Back where i was from, you needed to know your neighbors. When you got snowed in for days, they may be the only people you can rely on.</p>
<p>Great site btw, i&#8217;ve enjoyed all the reads!</p>
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		<title>By: ALC</title>
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		<dc:creator>ALC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UGH! I totally agree with you.  Gosh I miss the sun and feeling warm.  

I feel tricked! Before I moved to Finland, my husband was always telling me about the wonderful summers in Finland. To me Finland = cold, but I gave it a shot.  I moved to Finland in 2007 only to find the summer very short and cool/cold. Then after this summer I now understand why there is a high suicide rate. I think there has been maybe 1 week of &quot;nice&quot; weather. Maybe I need to recalibrate and understand that Finnish summer (or heck all seasons) = rainy and cold. I need to throw away all shorts, sun dresses and bathing suits and replace with a winter wardrobe to wear all year long ....and maybe I will start to adjust. 
I never appreciated the sun until I moved to Finland, and now it is teaching me a lesson in appreciation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UGH! I totally agree with you.  Gosh I miss the sun and feeling warm.  </p>
<p>I feel tricked! Before I moved to Finland, my husband was always telling me about the wonderful summers in Finland. To me Finland = cold, but I gave it a shot.  I moved to Finland in 2007 only to find the summer very short and cool/cold. Then after this summer I now understand why there is a high suicide rate. I think there has been maybe 1 week of &#8220;nice&#8221; weather. Maybe I need to recalibrate and understand that Finnish summer (or heck all seasons) = rainy and cold. I need to throw away all shorts, sun dresses and bathing suits and replace with a winter wardrobe to wear all year long &#8230;.and maybe I will start to adjust.<br />
I never appreciated the sun until I moved to Finland, and now it is teaching me a lesson in appreciation.</p>
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		<title>By: Freeridin' Franklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freeridin' Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex:
&quot;After reading your description of the weather, my fears are confirmed..&quot;

Let me suggest checking some other sources as well before taking much that is written here at face value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex:<br />
&#8220;After reading your description of the weather, my fears are confirmed..&#8221;</p>
<p>Let me suggest checking some other sources as well before taking much that is written here at face value.</p>
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		<title>By: Freeridin' Franklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freeridin' Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;as is food, restaurants, taxis, any form of entertainment, hotels… Finland is a great vacation destination if you don’t expect to get much value for your money.&quot;

Depends. Just came back from Scotland. How&#039;d you like £200 a night for a hotel by the loch (well yes, it was &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; one)?

In comparison, the rate for a double room at Kämp is roughly the same and is &quot;slightly&quot; posher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;as is food, restaurants, taxis, any form of entertainment, hotels… Finland is a great vacation destination if you don’t expect to get much value for your money.&#8221;</p>
<p>Depends. Just came back from Scotland. How&#8217;d you like £200 a night for a hotel by the loch (well yes, it was <i>that</i> one)?</p>
<p>In comparison, the rate for a double room at Kämp is roughly the same and is &#8220;slightly&#8221; posher.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 10:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My girlfriend lives in Finland and we&#039;re trying to get together in the same place. She&#039;s previously lived in the UK where I am -- but recently has begun to insist that she can&#039;t leave Finland which is the &quot;best country in the world.&quot;

We have a miserable winter too, but there&#039;s much more light and at least it&#039;s short -- our summers are long.

After reading your description of the weather, my fears are confirmed..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My girlfriend lives in Finland and we&#8217;re trying to get together in the same place. She&#8217;s previously lived in the UK where I am &#8212; but recently has begun to insist that she can&#8217;t leave Finland which is the &#8220;best country in the world.&#8221;</p>
<p>We have a miserable winter too, but there&#8217;s much more light and at least it&#8217;s short &#8212; our summers are long.</p>
<p>After reading your description of the weather, my fears are confirmed..</p>
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		<title>By: trav'ler</title>
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		<dc:creator>trav'ler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;although renting a car is really, really expensive, as is beer,&lt;/i&gt;

as is food, restaurants, taxis, any form of entertainment, hotels... Finland is a great vacation destination if you don&#039;t expect to get much value for your money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>although renting a car is really, really expensive, as is beer,</i></p>
<p>as is food, restaurants, taxis, any form of entertainment, hotels&#8230; Finland is a great vacation destination if you don&#8217;t expect to get much value for your money.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just got back from three weeks in Finland, mostly in Espoo.  It did not get above 22.  Considering it was 33 to 35 degrees at home, I loved it (I do not like warm weather too much).  

IMHO, Finland should advertise its weather in the US, for the summer.  16 to 22 hours of sunlight.  70 degree weather.  Reasonably priced summer cottages (although renting a car is really, really expensive, as is beer).  Great festivals (Savolinna and Pori).  

What&#039;s not to like?

If you are living in Finland and want some warm weather, there is a good alternative, go to Spain, Turkey, or Italy.  And, given the great benefits working there, you can spend 4 to 6 weeks on vacation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got back from three weeks in Finland, mostly in Espoo.  It did not get above 22.  Considering it was 33 to 35 degrees at home, I loved it (I do not like warm weather too much).  </p>
<p>IMHO, Finland should advertise its weather in the US, for the summer.  16 to 22 hours of sunlight.  70 degree weather.  Reasonably priced summer cottages (although renting a car is really, really expensive, as is beer).  Great festivals (Savolinna and Pori).  </p>
<p>What&#8217;s not to like?</p>
<p>If you are living in Finland and want some warm weather, there is a good alternative, go to Spain, Turkey, or Italy.  And, given the great benefits working there, you can spend 4 to 6 weeks on vacation.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Helsinki, and I have seen this over and over again, during the summer, often the mornings are bright and sunny.  Gradually, by early afternoon, the clouds start to form, and then it becomes completely overcast or it rains.  By about 5 pm or abit later, the skies clear and it is once again sunny.

So many times, I would get ready for the beach, but by 12 Noon, the weather looks marginal, and by 1 pm, I just give up the idea of spending a day on the beach.  By 5 pm, when it is too late for the beach, it is again sunny and warm.

Does anyone know why this takes place so often?

Is it the mix of warm water of the Baltic Sea raising in the cool morning air?  By mid afternoon, the water temperature and air temperature finally equalise, and the condensetion finally stops, and the clouds dissipate? If not, then what?

Any amateur metereologists out there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Helsinki, and I have seen this over and over again, during the summer, often the mornings are bright and sunny.  Gradually, by early afternoon, the clouds start to form, and then it becomes completely overcast or it rains.  By about 5 pm or abit later, the skies clear and it is once again sunny.</p>
<p>So many times, I would get ready for the beach, but by 12 Noon, the weather looks marginal, and by 1 pm, I just give up the idea of spending a day on the beach.  By 5 pm, when it is too late for the beach, it is again sunny and warm.</p>
<p>Does anyone know why this takes place so often?</p>
<p>Is it the mix of warm water of the Baltic Sea raising in the cool morning air?  By mid afternoon, the water temperature and air temperature finally equalise, and the condensetion finally stops, and the clouds dissipate? If not, then what?</p>
<p>Any amateur metereologists out there?</p>
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		<title>By: zip</title>
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		<dc:creator>zip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I&#039;ve asked this before, but I&#039;ll ask it again:

Phil, why don&#039;t you relocate to someplace nicer, like California? I&#039;m sure it&#039;s not that difficult since you are working for Nokia. 

If you have a girlfriend or wife here, just take her with you. The wages and purchasing power are so much better in California that you could easily live on your salary alone.

I would move immediately out of this country if I had the chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;ve asked this before, but I&#8217;ll ask it again:</p>
<p>Phil, why don&#8217;t you relocate to someplace nicer, like California? I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s not that difficult since you are working for Nokia. </p>
<p>If you have a girlfriend or wife here, just take her with you. The wages and purchasing power are so much better in California that you could easily live on your salary alone.</p>
<p>I would move immediately out of this country if I had the chance.</p>
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		<title>By: Hank W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hank W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;coastal weather&quot; in Helsinki is sometimes a real bitch, but I agree with #10 - problem is sometimes you can&#039;t predict. Nice spring/autumn days are the worst... morning -2, freezing in the shade/wind, in the sun its +10, so you sweat like anything... bus has full heating on, again the greenhouse effect...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;coastal weather&#8221; in Helsinki is sometimes a real bitch, but I agree with #10 &#8211; problem is sometimes you can&#8217;t predict. Nice spring/autumn days are the worst&#8230; morning -2, freezing in the shade/wind, in the sun its +10, so you sweat like anything&#8230; bus has full heating on, again the greenhouse effect&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve visited Nebraska a few times and the weather is vastly changing, no matter the time of year...it&#039;s actually quite fascinating...the temperature can drop in a matter of minutes,,,,the tornado season is fetching, and the heat for a Finn in the summertime is tremendous....
parts of it are lovely scenically...so what&#039;s up with that comment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve visited Nebraska a few times and the weather is vastly changing, no matter the time of year&#8230;it&#8217;s actually quite fascinating&#8230;the temperature can drop in a matter of minutes,,,,the tornado season is fetching, and the heat for a Finn in the summertime is tremendous&#8230;.<br />
parts of it are lovely scenically&#8230;so what&#8217;s up with that comment?</p>
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		<title>By: Keksi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keksi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bitching about the weather, huh ? :) Yeah, it sucks. But still better than winter. And bitching about doesn&#039;t help unless you&#039;re russian. Didn&#039;t they spray some iodine on rainclouds to disperse them? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bitching about the weather, huh ? <img src='http://www.finlandforthought.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Yeah, it sucks. But still better than winter. And bitching about doesn&#8217;t help unless you&#8217;re russian. Didn&#8217;t they spray some iodine on rainclouds to disperse them? <img src='http://www.finlandforthought.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mjr</title>
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		<dc:creator>mjr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I&#039;m bit perverse in liking the Finnish climate - the sub-arctic year is just so exhilaratingly manic-depressive: December darkness changes in six months into midnight sun and the nature bursts madly into life to mostly die again in a couple of months. Most climates are more pleasant and predictable, but there is a certain strange beaty in these crazy changes. (We are quite far up north - in Northern America Helsinki&#039;s latitude goes through the Hudson Bay...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I&#8217;m bit perverse in liking the Finnish climate &#8211; the sub-arctic year is just so exhilaratingly manic-depressive: December darkness changes in six months into midnight sun and the nature bursts madly into life to mostly die again in a couple of months. Most climates are more pleasant and predictable, but there is a certain strange beaty in these crazy changes. (We are quite far up north &#8211; in Northern America Helsinki&#8217;s latitude goes through the Hudson Bay&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Born there</title>
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		<dc:creator>Born there</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeh it sucks, but that OL New York one is worse. Brooklyn in the summer sucks, Brooklyn in the winter sucks. I like it here, same type of bullshit whether but 100 percent nice in context of nature. Ill take Finland over New York any day!

How ever I also grew up my later part of my life in California. Ill take Cali over Finland any day in this context.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeh it sucks, but that OL New York one is worse. Brooklyn in the summer sucks, Brooklyn in the winter sucks. I like it here, same type of bullshit whether but 100 percent nice in context of nature. Ill take Finland over New York any day!</p>
<p>How ever I also grew up my later part of my life in California. Ill take Cali over Finland any day in this context.</p>
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