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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2008/07/09/plods-want-your-print/comment-page-1/#comment-365636</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny thing is, no one has mentioned that the whole system would be USELESS. Fingerprint registries work because the sample size is small. With a national database the probability of getting a match on pure chance alone approaches one. This is why you usually need compelling evidence in the US in order to get a DNA sample first, in order to make the sample size (i.e. the pool of suspects) small enough to decrease the likelihood that a match is due to chance alone.

Either this is gross incompetency on behalf of the police (maybe they&#039;re just too lazy to actually do any investigative work), or just another planned step towards a control state. We&#039;ve been heading that way for a few years and things like this push that agenda forward at a frightening speed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny thing is, no one has mentioned that the whole system would be USELESS. Fingerprint registries work because the sample size is small. With a national database the probability of getting a match on pure chance alone approaches one. This is why you usually need compelling evidence in the US in order to get a DNA sample first, in order to make the sample size (i.e. the pool of suspects) small enough to decrease the likelihood that a match is due to chance alone.</p>
<p>Either this is gross incompetency on behalf of the police (maybe they&#8217;re just too lazy to actually do any investigative work), or just another planned step towards a control state. We&#8217;ve been heading that way for a few years and things like this push that agenda forward at a frightening speed.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh sure, belittle Kris&#039;s ideas about homeland security as science fiction. A tried and true liberal tactic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh sure, belittle Kris&#8217;s ideas about homeland security as science fiction. A tried and true liberal tactic.</p>
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		<title>By: winter “Yea, Proton Power, now in remission”</title>
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		<dc:creator>winter “Yea, Proton Power, now in remission”</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way to much Star Trek stuff here Kris,, or should I just say &quot;Beam me up???????&quot;

Wait, lets just implant tracking devices on everyone...wait Nokia did that with their cell phones already... Gee am I behind the times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way to much Star Trek stuff here Kris,, or should I just say &#8220;Beam me up???????&#8221;</p>
<p>Wait, lets just implant tracking devices on everyone&#8230;wait Nokia did that with their cell phones already&#8230; Gee am I behind the times.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Growth, I mean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Growth, I mean.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2008/07/09/plods-want-your-print/comment-page-1/#comment-365561</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, fingerprints are boring. Plus, fingerprint technology is already well-established. It benefits traditional sectors of the &quot;old&quot; economy. Forensics work is not driving economic growth and creating spinoffs. It just linearly increases sales of talcum powder, graphite dust and Scotch tape, inkpads, moist towelettes for cleaning smudges, and the like. Boring -- you said it. 

Advanced biometrics, on the other hand, now that&#039;s a gateway to development. If you&#039;re going to scan someone&#039;s irises, you&#039;re going to need more than a print scanner and access account to FBI database.  You&#039;ll want to buy powerful advanced optics. And special software, perhaps from a big Israeli security tech firm, to compensate for terrorists wearing colored contact lenses, and anything else that the evil ones come up with. But this is great for the tech sector. And since US officials probably hold stock in the companies, this is good for America, too.

In a couple years, when genome and brain scans replace today&#039;s soon-to-be introduced, defunct biometric systems, we can really bring the medical tech sector on board and stimulate growths there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, fingerprints are boring. Plus, fingerprint technology is already well-established. It benefits traditional sectors of the &#8220;old&#8221; economy. Forensics work is not driving economic growth and creating spinoffs. It just linearly increases sales of talcum powder, graphite dust and Scotch tape, inkpads, moist towelettes for cleaning smudges, and the like. Boring &#8212; you said it. </p>
<p>Advanced biometrics, on the other hand, now that&#8217;s a gateway to development. If you&#8217;re going to scan someone&#8217;s irises, you&#8217;re going to need more than a print scanner and access account to FBI database.  You&#8217;ll want to buy powerful advanced optics. And special software, perhaps from a big Israeli security tech firm, to compensate for terrorists wearing colored contact lenses, and anything else that the evil ones come up with. But this is great for the tech sector. And since US officials probably hold stock in the companies, this is good for America, too.</p>
<p>In a couple years, when genome and brain scans replace today&#8217;s soon-to-be introduced, defunct biometric systems, we can really bring the medical tech sector on board and stimulate growths there.</p>
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		<title>By: Winter “Yea, Proton Power, now in remission”</title>
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		<dc:creator>Winter “Yea, Proton Power, now in remission”</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Work being used to acquire info&quot; that could have been gotten the easy way (Waterboard them).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Work being used to acquire info&#8221; that could have been gotten the easy way (Waterboard them).</p>
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		<title>By: Helsinkian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helsinkian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While there are many good reasons to fingerprint people, I&#039;m not really sure that a national fingerprint register is that smart of an idea. It sounds like going too far to me, lots of work being used to acquire information that is not really necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While there are many good reasons to fingerprint people, I&#8217;m not really sure that a national fingerprint register is that smart of an idea. It sounds like going too far to me, lots of work being used to acquire information that is not really necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: winter “Yea, Proton Power, now in remission”</title>
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		<dc:creator>winter “Yea, Proton Power, now in remission”</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the Swedes, except we sent a club gitmo retired terrorist there, and they rejected him......Why???? He had the fun water torture experience, and could have helped the swedish police use it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the Swedes, except we sent a club gitmo retired terrorist there, and they rejected him&#8230;&#8230;Why???? He had the fun water torture experience, and could have helped the swedish police use it.</p>
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		<title>By: Seppo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seppo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finns and Swedes are similar in that they unquestioningly trust the corrupt sacks of shit that comprise their respective governments.  What a bunch of fools lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finns and Swedes are similar in that they unquestioningly trust the corrupt sacks of shit that comprise their respective governments.  What a bunch of fools lol</p>
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		<title>By: Hank W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hank W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the Swedes are already tapping the phones...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the Swedes are already tapping the phones&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Libertaer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Libertaer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;At least in Finland I can be sure the purposes are honnest and they wont missuse my info &quot;

&quot;they can publish your tax and income info&quot;


Uh huh.  More proof that Finns deserve to lose what little freedom they now have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;At least in Finland I can be sure the purposes are honnest and they wont missuse my info &#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;they can publish your tax and income info&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh huh.  More proof that Finns deserve to lose what little freedom they now have.</p>
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		<title>By: hfb</title>
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		<dc:creator>hfb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, they can publish your tax and income info publicly so what&#039;s the BFD about taking your fingerprint?

Nice Orwellian quote, Hank. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, they can publish your tax and income info publicly so what&#8217;s the BFD about taking your fingerprint?</p>
<p>Nice Orwellian quote, Hank. <img src='http://www.finlandforthought.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Freeridin' Franklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freeridin' Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#16: I sincerely hope that was sarcasm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#16: I sincerely hope that was sarcasm.</p>
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		<title>By: Maid'n</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maid'n</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever makes us safer -
No worries,
At least in Finland I can be sure the purposes are honnest and they wont missuse my info -

I have nothing to hide.. they can have my fingerprints -</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever makes us safer -<br />
No worries,<br />
At least in Finland I can be sure the purposes are honnest and they wont missuse my info -</p>
<p>I have nothing to hide.. they can have my fingerprints -</p>
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		<title>By: Antti rn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antti rn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How nice. First we have this global war on terror or whatever and everyone is required to have biometric passports and their bodily proportions registered. After this, the police is not allowed to use the registry to solve crimes. Why then have this registry in the first place? Just another administrative Kankkula&#039;s well created.

For the clarification, I think the commissioner should resign and apply  for a corresponding position in Uzbekistan, Singapore or some other damn beacon of freedom and human rights. His regular customers will submit their fingerprints sooner or later anyway. He does nothing with a registry full of honest people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How nice. First we have this global war on terror or whatever and everyone is required to have biometric passports and their bodily proportions registered. After this, the police is not allowed to use the registry to solve crimes. Why then have this registry in the first place? Just another administrative Kankkula&#8217;s well created.</p>
<p>For the clarification, I think the commissioner should resign and apply  for a corresponding position in Uzbekistan, Singapore or some other damn beacon of freedom and human rights. His regular customers will submit their fingerprints sooner or later anyway. He does nothing with a registry full of honest people.</p>
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