Tax office revealed the municipality of a customer who was under a Privacy Protection Order
@ 11:33 am This is taken from http://keskustelu.plaza.fi/ajassa/keskustelu/t1641815-8612867#m8612867 This just keeps getting better and better. It was posted on 2.10.2007ÂÂ
Tax office revealed the municipality of a customer who was under a Privacy Protection Order
My relative needed to apply for a restraining and privacy protection order and move to another municipality about 5 years ago because of harrassing behaviour from an ex-partner. As a normal Finnish person, she needs to go to work and get paid taxable income. Her harrassing ex-partner succeeded in tracking down her new municipality from her salary, because the tax office, against the order of the court and magistrate, went and gave the press the info of my relative’s tax municipality. The information was published and now there has been such serious harrassment and threatening, that another move is ahead. The tax office has said that they give information about the municipality about every taxpayer and that plucking out each customer under a protection of privacy order would cause them way too much work. The second time, the tax office said that this issue does not belong to them.How can the tax office give out such information, that another official has declared confidential, and defend that the tax municipality can be published? Isn’t the tax municipality the same as the residence municipality? Who can one turn to with this problem, if not the tax official who hascreated this problem?
Verottaja paljasti turvakieltoasiakkaan asuinkunnan
Sukulaiseni joutui hakemaan elämänkumppaninsa häiriökäyttäytymisen vuoksi lähestymis- ja turvakiellon sekä muuttamaan toiselle paikkakunnalle viitisen vuotta sitten. Tavallisena suomalaisena hän joutuu käymään ansiotyössä ja saa siten verotettavaa tuloa. Hänen häiriköivä ex -kumppaninsa onnistui jäljittämään uhrinsa uuden asuinpaikan juuri ansiotulojen vuoksi siksi, että verottaja vastoin käräjäoikeuden ja maistraatin päätöstä meni antamaan lehdelle tiedot sukulaiseni asuinkunnasta, tieto julkaistiin ja nyt takana on jo niin pitkälle menevää häirintää ja niin vakavaa uhkailua, että edessä on taas uusi muutto. Verottaja on sanonut, että he antavat jokaisesta verovelvollisesta tiedon verotuskunnasta ja että turvakieltoasiakkaiden poimiminen erikseen aiheuttaisi heille aivan liikaa työtä. Toisella kerralla verotoimistosta sanottiin, että asia ei edes kuulu heille!
Miten verottaja voi antaa julkisuuteen sellaisen tiedon, jonka toinen viranomainen on julistanut pidettäväksi salassa perustellen menettelyään sillä, että verotuskunnan saa julkaista? Eikös se verotuskunta ole sama kuin asuinkunta? Kenelleköhän tällaisen ongelman hoitaminen kuuluu jos ei veroviranomaisille jotka tämän sotkun ovat aiheuttaneetkin.
Can’t this clown get his own blog already?
Comment by disposable — Thu, Nov 15th, 2007 @ 12:17 pm
“The tax office has said that they give information about the municipality about every taxpayer and that plucking out each customer under a protection of privacy order would cause them way too much work.”
Haha, it’s too much hassle to respect privacy orders, just publish them all anyway!
Comment by Hugo — Thu, Nov 15th, 2007 @ 12:44 pm
Wow, just wow. Sorry if you’re almost murdered by your ex that you are hiding from, but its just too much work for us to care. Besides, what would your neighbors think if they couldn’t see how much money you make? They’d be devastated.
Comment by Don — Thu, Nov 15th, 2007 @ 1:55 pm
You fool - this just proves that making things private (your plan) is no solution!
Comment by Rich — Thu, Nov 15th, 2007 @ 2:03 pm
Now surly isn’t breaching a privacy order a criminal offence.. or at the least contempt of the issuing court house…
so I wait for the Finnish version of the Crown Prosecution Service(UK) to issue a writ or statement of intent to prosecute against the Finnish tax office.
Comment by ChrisK — Thu, Nov 15th, 2007 @ 2:20 pm
“Can’t this clown get his own blog already?
You might want to read this website, if you feel that your rights in Finland are being violated.
http://www.verosirkus.net
There’s lots of good information regarding international treaties and such—and a complaint form!. You’ll quickly see that he’s not clowning around
Comment by Kristian — Thu, Nov 15th, 2007 @ 2:43 pm
The tax office has said that they give information about the municipality about every taxpayer and that plucking out each customer under a protection of privacy order would cause them way too much work. The second time, the tax office said that this issue does not belong to them.
While I don’t see where the problem lies in the principle; this is about the lamest excuse I’ve heard. The court orders on privacy are updated to several other databases without much adieu.
Comment by Hank W. — Thu, Nov 15th, 2007 @ 6:07 pm
“You fool - this just proves that making things private (your plan) is no solution!”
Like I said in another post, this is only a translation from something a Finnish person wrote. Sounds like you are having a little crisis now you know that what you find so entertaining is actually hurting a lot of people.
The only opinion I put here is “it keeps getting better and better”.
I really hope that my research and digging doesn’t reveal some actual deaths of people who were killed by public tax record-fed envy, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it did.
Comment by sirkuspelle — Thu, Nov 15th, 2007 @ 6:52 pm
Just curious, are you perhaps trying convince us that tax records should remain public?
Because you really don’t seem to know when to stop.
My theory is that there are quite a few people - me included - who wish for the said records to remain public… just because it *really* seems to get your panties into a bunch. Other than that I don’t care either way.
I do not agree with you, but this is an honest advice: shut up already. Unless you want to alienate everyone who might actually support your ideas.
Comment by Anonymous — Thu, Nov 15th, 2007 @ 10:54 pm
Actually, you can be registered in one municipality while living in another. I think this is quite common at least among students. You study and live in e.g. Helsinki, but you pay your taxes and vote in your original hometown.
Comment by sprc — Fri, Nov 16th, 2007 @ 12:39 am
@9 Hey, that’s not my article, I just translated it. The article was definitely written by someone who is bothered by the public tax records.
Comment by Sirkuspelle — Fri, Nov 16th, 2007 @ 8:43 am
This crap again! I guess you guys think you live in US. This is Finland and we have our own ways to do these thinks. Getting your privacy protected here doesn’t mean nothing yet. You have to get your information removed from all of these public records one by one. And there is huge amount of these. So in reality, it’s almost impossible. Plus, this is a small country so tracking somebody down here is pretty easy job if you know what you doing.
Comment by hoijaa — Fri, Nov 16th, 2007 @ 10:11 pm