Comments on: Lowering taxes on condoms, a slippery slope. http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/11/07/lowering-taxes-on-condoms-a-slippery-slope/ Politics, current events, culture - From Finland & United States Sat, 11 Feb 2012 21:08:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: anonymous http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/11/07/lowering-taxes-on-condoms-a-slippery-slope/comment-page-1/#comment-351568 anonymous Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:27:13 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/11/07/lowering-taxes-on-condoms-a-slippery-slope/#comment-351568 You are all crazy. Do not take anything from the US as an example of the way things should be, especially lies about not having sex. You will have a hard time finding anyone over 16 who has not had sex at least once. It is also increasingly difficult to find people who have not had unprotected sex. Anything the US does as a means to 'fix' some kind of problem, is only temporary at best. We, in America, do get free condoms from some places. So if you want to go by example, then go that route. You are all crazy. Do not take anything from the US as an example of the way things should be, especially lies about not having sex. You will have a hard time finding anyone over 16 who has not had sex at least once. It is also increasingly difficult to find people who have not had unprotected sex. Anything the US does as a means to ‘fix’ some kind of problem, is only temporary at best. We, in America, do get free condoms from some places. So if you want to go by example, then go that route.

]]> By: Kristian http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/11/07/lowering-taxes-on-condoms-a-slippery-slope/comment-page-1/#comment-351477 Kristian Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:45:58 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/11/07/lowering-taxes-on-condoms-a-slippery-slope/#comment-351477 "<i>So Phil (and other libertarians), do you effectively excuse Ron Paul for supporting banning abortion to pander to the religious right?</i>" No. Just because I disagree with him on a personal level (IMO, abortions should be legally allowed until the 'fetus' reaches the age of 8-years, approximately), it doesn't mean I disagree with his proposed legislation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_the_People_Act I would much rather see unrestricted access to abortions in _some_ states, than restricted access in _all_ states. Right now, the latter is true. “So Phil (and other libertarians), do you effectively excuse Ron Paul for supporting banning abortion to pander to the religious right?”

No. Just because I disagree with him on a personal level (IMO, abortions should be legally allowed until the ‘fetus’ reaches the age of 8-years, approximately), it doesn’t mean I disagree with his proposed legislation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_the_People_Act

I would much rather see unrestricted access to abortions in _some_ states, than restricted access in _all_ states. Right now, the latter is true.

]]> By: Herkku http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/11/07/lowering-taxes-on-condoms-a-slippery-slope/comment-page-1/#comment-351464 Herkku Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:16:39 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/11/07/lowering-taxes-on-condoms-a-slippery-slope/#comment-351464 Nomad. joke /dʒoʊk/Pronunciation[johk] noun, verb, joked, jok·ing. –noun 1. something said or done to provoke laughter or cause amusement, as a witticism, a short and amusing anecdote, or a prankish act: He tells very funny jokes. She played a joke on him. 2. something that is amusing or ridiculous, esp. because of being ludicrously inadequate or a sham; a thing, situation, or person laughed at rather than taken seriously; farce: Their pretense of generosity is a joke. An officer with no ability to command is a joke. 3. a matter that need not be taken very seriously; trifling matter: The loss was no joke. 4. something that does not present the expected challenge; something very easy: The test was a joke for the whole class. 5. practical joke. –verb (used without object) 6. to speak or act in a playful or merry way: He was always joking with us. 7. to say something in fun or teasing rather than in earnest; be facetious: He didn't really mean it, he was only joking. –verb (used with object) 8. to subject to jokes; make fun of; tease. 9. to obtain by joking: The comedian joked coins from the audience. [Origin: 1660–70; < L jocus jest] Thanks for playing. Nomad.

joke /dÊ’oÊŠk/Pronunciation[johk]
noun, verb, joked, jok·ing.
–noun
1. something said or done to provoke laughter or cause amusement, as a witticism, a short and amusing anecdote, or a prankish act: He tells very funny jokes. She played a joke on him.
2. something that is amusing or ridiculous, esp. because of being ludicrously inadequate or a sham; a thing, situation, or person laughed at rather than taken seriously; farce: Their pretense of generosity is a joke. An officer with no ability to command is a joke.
3. a matter that need not be taken very seriously; trifling matter: The loss was no joke.
4. something that does not present the expected challenge; something very easy: The test was a joke for the whole class.
5. practical joke.
–verb (used without object)
6. to speak or act in a playful or merry way: He was always joking with us.
7. to say something in fun or teasing rather than in earnest; be facetious: He didn’t really mean it, he was only joking.
–verb (used with object)
8. to subject to jokes; make fun of; tease.
9. to obtain by joking: The comedian joked coins from the audience.
[Origin: 1660–70; < L jocus jest]

Thanks for playing.

]]> By: Nomad http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/11/07/lowering-taxes-on-condoms-a-slippery-slope/comment-page-1/#comment-351458 Nomad Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:44:14 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/11/07/lowering-taxes-on-condoms-a-slippery-slope/#comment-351458 Herkku: What do you mean by "even India is ahead of USA"? What gives you the idea that Indians consider the USA as the benchmark for political or social behavior? Herkku: What do you mean by “even India is ahead of USA”? What gives you the idea that Indians consider the USA as the benchmark for political or social behavior?

]]> By: Kristian http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/11/07/lowering-taxes-on-condoms-a-slippery-slope/comment-page-1/#comment-351445 Kristian Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:15:56 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/11/07/lowering-taxes-on-condoms-a-slippery-slope/#comment-351445 "<i>The condom has a perfect-use failure rate of 2%</i>" I think the risk positively correlates with weenie size. Luckily, I have nothing to worry about :-| “The condom has a perfect-use failure rate of 2%”

I think the risk positively correlates with weenie size. Luckily, I have nothing to worry about :-|

]]> By: qwerty http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/11/07/lowering-taxes-on-condoms-a-slippery-slope/comment-page-1/#comment-351434 qwerty Wed, 07 Nov 2007 18:49:13 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/11/07/lowering-taxes-on-condoms-a-slippery-slope/#comment-351434 "For couples that use withdrawal correctly at every act of intercourse, the failure rate is 4% per year. In comparison the pill has a perfect-use failure rate of 0.3%, while the diaphragm has a perfect use failure rate of 6%. The condom has a perfect-use failure rate of 2%" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulling_out “For couples that use withdrawal correctly at every act of intercourse, the failure rate is 4% per year. In comparison the pill has a perfect-use failure rate of 0.3%, while the diaphragm has a perfect use failure rate of 6%. The condom has a perfect-use failure rate of 2%”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulling_out

]]> By: Herkku http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/11/07/lowering-taxes-on-condoms-a-slippery-slope/comment-page-1/#comment-351417 Herkku Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:54:51 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/11/07/lowering-taxes-on-condoms-a-slippery-slope/#comment-351417 Either way, Roe v Wade has already happened and the courts (not the government) have already interfered, so it is in the federal "sphere" already. So the only other way to go is to overturn it and make it illegal. Personally, I feel that banning abortion is a medieval practice and as laughable as the laws mentioned in that other post. Abortions will still happen, in back alleys with rusty knives. The solution here is education, not some papal-style edict to ban the right of women to do as they want with their bodies. And I state this in an admittedly libertarian blog. Is there a double standard? Are you sacrificing your beliefs to get a politician elected? So Phil (and other libertarians), do you effectively excuse Ron Paul for supporting banning abortion to pander to the religious right? Either way, Roe v Wade has already happened and the courts (not the government) have already interfered, so it is in the federal “sphere” already. So the only other way to go is to overturn it and make it illegal.
Personally, I feel that banning abortion is a medieval practice and as laughable as the laws mentioned in that other post. Abortions will still happen, in back alleys with rusty knives. The solution here is education, not some papal-style edict to ban the right of women to do as they want with their bodies. And I state this in an admittedly libertarian blog. Is there a double standard? Are you sacrificing your beliefs to get a politician elected?
So Phil (and other libertarians), do you effectively excuse Ron Paul for supporting banning abortion to pander to the religious right?

]]> By: Kristian http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/11/07/lowering-taxes-on-condoms-a-slippery-slope/comment-page-1/#comment-351404 Kristian Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:08:27 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/11/07/lowering-taxes-on-condoms-a-slippery-slope/#comment-351404 Herkku: "<i>He wants to overturn Roe v Wade and take away the right of women to do whatever the hell they want with their bodies… seems he doesn’t mind government putting itself between the legs of women.</i>" You should really look at it from a different perspective. I'm probably even more pro-abortion than you are, considering that Europe already has far more people than it could feed in time of crisis. The US is also approaching full capacity. RP's idea of dumping Roe v. Wade is NOT the same as making abortion illegal. That's because he opposes any federal government interference in the matter. Such as stance could be the only way abortion actually stays legal; by keeping it in the federal sphere, there's a chance that it could actually become illegal or severely restricted at some point---for EVERYONE in EVERY STATE! Herkku: “He wants to overturn Roe v Wade and take away the right of women to do whatever the hell they want with their bodies… seems he doesn’t mind government putting itself between the legs of women.”

You should really look at it from a different perspective. I’m probably even more pro-abortion than you are, considering that Europe already has far more people than it could feed in time of crisis. The US is also approaching full capacity.

RP’s idea of dumping Roe v. Wade is NOT the same as making abortion illegal. That’s because he opposes any federal government interference in the matter. Such as stance could be the only way abortion actually stays legal; by keeping it in the federal sphere, there’s a chance that it could actually become illegal or severely restricted at some point—for EVERYONE in EVERY STATE!

]]> By: winter, "Yea, Proton Power, now in remission" http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/11/07/lowering-taxes-on-condoms-a-slippery-slope/comment-page-1/#comment-351372 winter, "Yea, Proton Power, now in remission" Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:44:10 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/11/07/lowering-taxes-on-condoms-a-slippery-slope/#comment-351372 Gee, lets all bash the USA for having stated morals. Gee then your option is now the Chinese approach? I say go for it. Gee, lets all bash the USA for having stated morals.

Gee then your option is now the Chinese approach? I say go for it.

]]> By: Phil http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/11/07/lowering-taxes-on-condoms-a-slippery-slope/comment-page-1/#comment-351349 Phil Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:40:12 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/11/07/lowering-taxes-on-condoms-a-slippery-slope/#comment-351349 <i>AND REMEMBER: IT’S OK IF YOU PULL OUT IN TIME.</i> Yeah, or "DOING IT ON HER CHEST WONT GET HER PREGNANT" :-D AND REMEMBER: IT’S OK IF YOU PULL OUT IN TIME.

Yeah, or “DOING IT ON HER CHEST WONT GET HER PREGNANT” :-D

]]> By: Juho Salo http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/11/07/lowering-taxes-on-condoms-a-slippery-slope/comment-page-1/#comment-351343 Juho Salo Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:16:35 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/11/07/lowering-taxes-on-condoms-a-slippery-slope/#comment-351343 "Just say no" campaign; this would actually be exellent - Finns give way too few births to replace those who die. Few accidents might be a good thing. AND REMEMBER: IT'S OK IF YOU PULL OUT IN TIME. “Just say no” campaign; this would actually be exellent – Finns give way too few births to replace those who die. Few accidents might be a good thing.

AND REMEMBER: IT’S OK IF YOU PULL OUT IN TIME.

]]> By: Phil http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/11/07/lowering-taxes-on-condoms-a-slippery-slope/comment-page-1/#comment-351318 Phil Wed, 07 Nov 2007 13:16:30 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/11/07/lowering-taxes-on-condoms-a-slippery-slope/#comment-351318 <i>So is he just pandering to the religious right just to have a chance at being Killer-in-Chief?</i> Most likely. But remember, he's pushes states' rights on EVERY issue, abortion is no different. He personally is against abortion, although he wouldn't make a federal mandate to outlaw it like most the Republican candidates . Remember, he's delivered 4,000+ babies in his life, it doesn't surprise me that he's <i>personally</i> not happy with abortions. So is he just pandering to the religious right just to have a chance at being Killer-in-Chief?

Most likely. But remember, he’s pushes states’ rights on EVERY issue, abortion is no different. He personally is against abortion, although he wouldn’t make a federal mandate to outlaw it like most the Republican candidates . Remember, he’s delivered 4,000+ babies in his life, it doesn’t surprise me that he’s personally not happy with abortions.

]]> By: Martin http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/11/07/lowering-taxes-on-condoms-a-slippery-slope/comment-page-1/#comment-351316 Martin Wed, 07 Nov 2007 13:10:03 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/11/07/lowering-taxes-on-condoms-a-slippery-slope/#comment-351316 In my opinion, the most effective state intervention in this area is to reduce the incidence of erections using a campaign of fear and intimidation. Have you ever tried to put a condom on a penis that was not sufficiently erect? In my opinion, the most effective state intervention in this area is to reduce the incidence of erections using a campaign of fear and intimidation. Have you ever tried to put a condom on a penis that was not sufficiently erect?

]]> By: Fred Fry http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/11/07/lowering-taxes-on-condoms-a-slippery-slope/comment-page-1/#comment-351315 Fred Fry Wed, 07 Nov 2007 13:09:18 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/11/07/lowering-taxes-on-condoms-a-slippery-slope/#comment-351315 Biff, Exactly what I was thinking. You know with this line of reasoning, maybe the cost of health care for the patients should go up, including for abortions, which would have the effect of condoms appearing to be less expensive, at least as far as the alternative option of getting pregnant. Forget getting pregnant, I think a condom is much cheaper than the thought of sleeping with a guy with AIDS without protection. Oh wait, Finland does not have that problem. Biff,
Exactly what I was thinking. You know with this line of reasoning, maybe the cost of health care for the patients should go up, including for abortions, which would have the effect of condoms appearing to be less expensive, at least as far as the alternative option of getting pregnant.

Forget getting pregnant, I think a condom is much cheaper than the thought of sleeping with a guy with AIDS without protection. Oh wait, Finland does not have that problem.

]]> By: JG http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/11/07/lowering-taxes-on-condoms-a-slippery-slope/comment-page-1/#comment-351314 JG Wed, 07 Nov 2007 13:04:26 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/11/07/lowering-taxes-on-condoms-a-slippery-slope/#comment-351314 Extra Tv-uutiset now on TV1 about the school shooting. Extra Tv-uutiset now on TV1 about the school shooting.

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