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	<title>Comments on: Columbine in Finland: Nine dead in school shooting, shooter posts video on YouTube!</title>
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		<title>By: ragnar_rahl</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/11/07/at-least-one-dead-in-finnish-school-shooting/comment-page-5/#comment-367851</link>
		<dc:creator>ragnar_rahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 05:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Not quite, I agree. However, social darwinism is a very libertarian idea.&quot;
No, actually, Herbert Spencer (Pretty much THE man when it comes to social darwinism) thought that eventually we&#039;d all evolve, essentially, into communists. Leaving the market alone for a while until you&#039;re &quot;ready&quot; for communism with the higher race of man attained from capitalism isn&#039;t libertarian- it&#039;s in fact exactly the same thing Marx advocated :D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Not quite, I agree. However, social darwinism is a very libertarian idea.&#8221;<br />
No, actually, Herbert Spencer (Pretty much THE man when it comes to social darwinism) thought that eventually we&#8217;d all evolve, essentially, into communists. Leaving the market alone for a while until you&#8217;re &#8220;ready&#8221; for communism with the higher race of man attained from capitalism isn&#8217;t libertarian- it&#8217;s in fact exactly the same thing Marx advocated <img src='http://www.finlandforthought.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Aigner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Aigner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 23:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>google &#039;revolutionz final report&#039; to view&quot;Bowling for Columbine&quot; and The National Geographic special &quot;Columbine The Final Report&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>google &#8216;revolutionz final report&#8217; to view&#8221;Bowling for Columbine&#8221; and The National Geographic special &#8220;Columbine The Final Report&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Aigner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Aigner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 08:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just recently the Columbine memorial was dedicated. Brian Rohrhbough who lost his son Danny put in stone (the reason you died danny) A county who lied and covered up what they knew and what they did. A recent national geographic program &#039;Columbine the final report&#039; agrees with our findings. Revenge over an arrest was the motive. Also on page 10589 there is a drawing that Eric Harris drew the night of his arrest that couls be interpreted as a sexual assault by a police officer. You will find it on the CRTF website. You can call at 303-697-1282  Ron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just recently the Columbine memorial was dedicated. Brian Rohrhbough who lost his son Danny put in stone (the reason you died danny) A county who lied and covered up what they knew and what they did. A recent national geographic program &#8216;Columbine the final report&#8217; agrees with our findings. Revenge over an arrest was the motive. Also on page 10589 there is a drawing that Eric Harris drew the night of his arrest that couls be interpreted as a sexual assault by a police officer. You will find it on the CRTF website. You can call at 303-697-1282  Ron</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Aigner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Aigner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 08:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am close friends with several Columbine families of the dead and injured. We have been reseqarching Columbine and have discovered that Eric and Dylan were avenging a bad arrest. The spin about them taking revenge on jocks is a lie spun by the authorities to cover-up their own bullying behavior. We know this because Dylan wrote to Eric in the 98 year book &quot;We&#039;ll be killing cops, blowing up things, My wrath for January&#039;s incident will be godlike, not to mention our revenge in the commons&quot; The January incident was their arrest on Jan.30,1998 the commons is the lunchroom at Columbine. Google CRTF click main forum. We need help to report this information. The Media here won&#039;t and the Government is corrupt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am close friends with several Columbine families of the dead and injured. We have been reseqarching Columbine and have discovered that Eric and Dylan were avenging a bad arrest. The spin about them taking revenge on jocks is a lie spun by the authorities to cover-up their own bullying behavior. We know this because Dylan wrote to Eric in the 98 year book &#8220;We&#8217;ll be killing cops, blowing up things, My wrath for January&#8217;s incident will be godlike, not to mention our revenge in the commons&#8221; The January incident was their arrest on Jan.30,1998 the commons is the lunchroom at Columbine. Google CRTF click main forum. We need help to report this information. The Media here won&#8217;t and the Government is corrupt.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t even bothered to read all of the comments left on here, as much of it is bickering back and forth.

Having said that, my prayers go out to the Finnish people during this time of grieving. I don&#039;t believe that this is the right time to go about ranting back and forth about what went wrong and just how evil Auvinen&#039;s deeds were. Left-wing radio host Randi Rhodes was even more disrespectful when the Virginia Tech massacre took place. Thus, may the Finns be comforted as we reach out to them and encourage them to take 1 Peter 5:7 to heart.

I have even sent an email to the Christian Democrats about my condolences, and Merja Erapolku was kind enough to respond to my email.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t even bothered to read all of the comments left on here, as much of it is bickering back and forth.</p>
<p>Having said that, my prayers go out to the Finnish people during this time of grieving. I don&#8217;t believe that this is the right time to go about ranting back and forth about what went wrong and just how evil Auvinen&#8217;s deeds were. Left-wing radio host Randi Rhodes was even more disrespectful when the Virginia Tech massacre took place. Thus, may the Finns be comforted as we reach out to them and encourage them to take 1 Peter 5:7 to heart.</p>
<p>I have even sent an email to the Christian Democrats about my condolences, and Merja Erapolku was kind enough to respond to my email.</p>
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		<title>By: Freeridin' Franklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freeridin' Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Franklin - Auvinen was no libertarian, not even close.&quot;

Not quite, I agree. However, social darwinism is a very libertarian idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Franklin &#8211; Auvinen was no libertarian, not even close.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not quite, I agree. However, social darwinism is a very libertarian idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Drakon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drakon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 15:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, I believe I wrote in #68: &quot;this tragedy was mainly caused by the guy being mentally ill.&quot; In the post you are referring to I tried to consider the things influencing his thinking as possible contributing factors to his behaviour. I do not believe reading this or that or seeing this or that film would have made him kill anybody without his mental instability. 

The thing about Linkola&#039;s tinking is that it is something he quite possible learnedd at home, like I wrote above, and so it much have had more  meaning in his life than some random internet texts etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, I believe I wrote in #68: &#8220;this tragedy was mainly caused by the guy being mentally ill.&#8221; In the post you are referring to I tried to consider the things influencing his thinking as possible contributing factors to his behaviour. I do not believe reading this or that or seeing this or that film would have made him kill anybody without his mental instability. </p>
<p>The thing about Linkola&#8217;s tinking is that it is something he quite possible learnedd at home, like I wrote above, and so it much have had more  meaning in his life than some random internet texts etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave the Revelator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave the Revelator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drakon, we have terms for this type of thing, it&#039;s called  MENTAL ILLNESS. We will never know exactly what he suffered from but when you go around talking about being a &quot;higher being&quot; then you are / were FUCKED IN THE HEAD, end of story.

I have no intention of discussing your so-called &quot;semantics&quot; about his &quot;philosophies.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drakon, we have terms for this type of thing, it&#8217;s called  MENTAL ILLNESS. We will never know exactly what he suffered from but when you go around talking about being a &#8220;higher being&#8221; then you are / were FUCKED IN THE HEAD, end of story.</p>
<p>I have no intention of discussing your so-called &#8220;semantics&#8221; about his &#8220;philosophies.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: m</title>
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		<dc:creator>m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Clear??&quot;

Well his &quot;ideology&quot; wasn&#039;t of the most coherent kind. I mean killing teenagers to start a revolution? Jeez, what a genius.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Clear??&#8221;</p>
<p>Well his &#8220;ideology&#8221; wasn&#8217;t of the most coherent kind. I mean killing teenagers to start a revolution? Jeez, what a genius.</p>
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		<title>By: Drakon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drakon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, now we are arguing semantics. I think it is reasonable to say that it is &quot;clear he was heavily caught up in that shit&quot; in the ideological phase he seemed to be going through. Just compare his rants to Linkola&#039;s ideas about humans being the &quot;cancer of nature&quot; and the need for depopulation, even by genocide. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentti_Linkola

I would not say he followed Linkola word-to-word, now, but the ideological similarities are there, among a hodgepodge of other influences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, now we are arguing semantics. I think it is reasonable to say that it is &#8220;clear he was heavily caught up in that shit&#8221; in the ideological phase he seemed to be going through. Just compare his rants to Linkola&#8217;s ideas about humans being the &#8220;cancer of nature&#8221; and the need for depopulation, even by genocide. </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentti_Linkola" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentti_Linkola</a></p>
<p>I would not say he followed Linkola word-to-word, now, but the ideological similarities are there, among a hodgepodge of other influences.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave the Revelator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave the Revelator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 10:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drakon, nothing is &quot;clear,&quot; here. If he was so anti-technology, then why would he spend time videotaping and distributing his insanity on the internets?

Clear??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drakon, nothing is &#8220;clear,&#8221; here. If he was so anti-technology, then why would he spend time videotaping and distributing his insanity on the internets?</p>
<p>Clear??</p>
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		<title>By: tim73</title>
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		<dc:creator>tim73</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 10:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>born there: Careful there with those 11 guns in bed. Is one of them named &quot;Caroline&quot;? How about &quot;Lisa&quot;? In the case the Soviets will invade, you certainly are ready for that. Friggin gun idiot..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>born there: Careful there with those 11 guns in bed. Is one of them named &#8220;Caroline&#8221;? How about &#8220;Lisa&#8221;? In the case the Soviets will invade, you certainly are ready for that. Friggin gun idiot..</p>
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		<title>By: Drakon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drakon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 10:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Phil, Auvinen was certainly not a libertarian. I&#039;d call him an eco-facist with delusions of grandeur. 

His mother is a supporter of Pentti Linkola, that guy who demands the abandonment of higher technology and a drastic reduction of global population, basically a return to the middle ages. It is clear from the &quot;manifesto&quot; that Pekka-Eric got heavily caught up in all that shit, it was probably a big contributing factor for this attack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Phil, Auvinen was certainly not a libertarian. I&#8217;d call him an eco-facist with delusions of grandeur. </p>
<p>His mother is a supporter of Pentti Linkola, that guy who demands the abandonment of higher technology and a drastic reduction of global population, basically a return to the middle ages. It is clear from the &#8220;manifesto&#8221; that Pekka-Eric got heavily caught up in all that shit, it was probably a big contributing factor for this attack.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave the Revelator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave the Revelator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 09:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s him. The only thing missing is his &quot;gee.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s him. The only thing missing is his &#8220;gee.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Punter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Punter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 09:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, I think it might actually be his offspring??? Now that is scary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, I think it might actually be his offspring??? Now that is scary.</p>
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