Comments on: Finns second-least keen in EU on culture http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/10/01/finns-second-least-keen-in-eu-on-culture/ Politics, current events, culture - From Finland & United States Sat, 11 Feb 2012 21:08:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Liwawa225 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/10/01/finns-second-least-keen-in-eu-on-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-380746 Liwawa225 Tue, 17 May 2011 07:37:00 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/10/01/finns-second-least-keen-in-eu-on-culture/#comment-380746 Most<a href="http://www.toplouisvuittons.com" rel="nofollow">Louis Vuitton</a> women by the  support<a href="http://www.louisvuitton.be" rel="nofollow">Louis Vuitton sunglasses</a> of many<a href="http://www.uk-burberry.com" rel="nofollow">prada Outlet</a> ofour products, increasing<a href="http://www.coach-onlinestore.org" rel="nofollow">Coach Factory Outlet online</a>, Prada bags<a href="http://www.christianlouboutins.ca" rel="nofollow">Christian Louboutin</a> let  you buy <a href="http://www.coach-shopping.org" rel="nofollow">Coach handbags</a>felt relieved,  with <a href="http://www.chanels.be" rel="nofollow">Chanel wallet</a>enjoyable.Our  products<a href="http://www.prada.bz" rel="nofollow">Prada bags</a> will <a href="http://www.gucci-outlet.me" rel="nofollow">Gucci shoes</a>bring you fun <a href="http://www.louis-vuitton.me" rel="nofollow">Louis Vuitton sunglasses</a>Welcome you visit.  MostLouis Vuitton women by the
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]]> By: bafana http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/10/01/finns-second-least-keen-in-eu-on-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-339214 bafana Wed, 10 Oct 2007 06:11:33 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/10/01/finns-second-least-keen-in-eu-on-culture/#comment-339214 To Punter: I am exactly as much anti-Islam as I am anti-fascist, anti-communist, anti discrimination against women, anti-totalitarianism, anti honor killings, anti forced marriage, anti theocratic dominance. The problem I have with Islam is that it has not gone through the fire of renaissance and does not tolerate pluralism, liberal arts, freedom of press and speech, equal rights of women, and a rational and open minded society of science. Hence I strongly feel it is important to defend an open society from yet another enemy. I don't like that Imams in European Mosques preach that I am supposed to be decadent and bad because I don't force my wife into carrying a head scarf. Additionally, I have never heard of converters to Buddhism, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism and so on who suddenly have an urge to blow up something including even themselves just because they want to please their newly adopted faith. Here a response to your redneck label for me. I grew up on three continents and Finland is merely the 6th county I am living in. So I have certainly not emerged recently for the first time from behind the mountains and forests. Can you claim the same for yourself. To Punter: I am exactly as much anti-Islam as I am anti-fascist, anti-communist, anti discrimination against women, anti-totalitarianism, anti honor killings, anti forced marriage, anti theocratic dominance. The problem I have with Islam is that it has not gone through the fire of renaissance and does not tolerate pluralism, liberal arts, freedom of press and speech, equal rights of women, and a rational and open minded society of science. Hence I strongly feel it is important to defend an open society from yet another enemy. I don’t like that Imams in European Mosques preach that I am supposed to be decadent and bad because I don’t force my wife into carrying a head scarf. Additionally, I have never heard of converters to Buddhism, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism and so on who suddenly have an urge to blow up something including even themselves just because they want to please their newly adopted faith. Here a response to your redneck label for me. I grew up on three continents and Finland is merely the 6th county I am living in. So I have certainly not emerged recently for the first time from behind the mountains and forests. Can you claim the same for yourself.

]]> By: Punter http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/10/01/finns-second-least-keen-in-eu-on-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-339177 Punter Tue, 09 Oct 2007 17:34:55 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/10/01/finns-second-least-keen-in-eu-on-culture/#comment-339177 Your anti-Islam redneck postings are more than common on this site. Anytime the word Islam is mentioned you go into some routine arguement about how these people come and do this and that to a society and how Finland should keep them out to avoid becoming like other European contrys blah blah blah..... You are an Islamaphob and for that reason highly offensive. Apart from that your other posts are generally well received and well written but get off the whole Islamaphob train. Your anti-Islam redneck postings are more than common on this site. Anytime the word Islam is mentioned you go into some routine arguement about how these people come and do this and that to a society and how Finland should keep them out to avoid becoming like other European contrys blah blah blah….. You are an Islamaphob and for that reason highly offensive. Apart from that your other posts are generally well received and well written but get off the whole Islamaphob train.

]]> By: bafana http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/10/01/finns-second-least-keen-in-eu-on-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-339139 bafana Tue, 09 Oct 2007 07:55:10 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/10/01/finns-second-least-keen-in-eu-on-culture/#comment-339139 #34: Funny that in return you have no problems with making broad assumptions about me. SIMPLETON #34: Funny that in return you have no problems with making broad assumptions about me. SIMPLETON

]]> By: Punter http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/10/01/finns-second-least-keen-in-eu-on-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-339087 Punter Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:29:00 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/10/01/finns-second-least-keen-in-eu-on-culture/#comment-339087 You know noting of me so don't label what you don't know. Also, don't try to tell me what I should make an effort to learn. Generalizations like yours are the corner stone to the true problems facing the worlds cultures today. SIMPLETON You know noting of me so don’t label what you don’t know. Also, don’t try to tell me what I should make an effort to learn. Generalizations like yours are the corner stone to the true problems facing the worlds cultures today. SIMPLETON

]]> By: bafana http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/10/01/finns-second-least-keen-in-eu-on-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-339048 bafana Mon, 08 Oct 2007 04:00:26 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/10/01/finns-second-least-keen-in-eu-on-culture/#comment-339048 To #32: You should maybe make an effort to learn about the life of Mohamed and also about the content about the Koran. Neither are very helpful to spread a lot of love and respect for neither women nor people who don't believe in Islam. It is a historic fact that Mohamed let all the Jews and Christians of Medina be killed in between his raids on caravans and wars on Mekka. As a secular and non-muslim I am merely a dhimmi (and you too) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmi), which is rather insulting and arrogant. Do you really want to state that is cool? To #32: You should maybe make an effort to learn about the life of Mohamed and also about the content about the Koran. Neither are very helpful to spread a lot of love and respect for neither women nor people who don’t believe in Islam. It is a historic fact that Mohamed let all the Jews and Christians of Medina be killed in between his raids on caravans and wars on Mekka. As a secular and non-muslim I am merely a dhimmi (and you too) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmi), which is rather insulting and arrogant. Do you really want to state that is cool?

]]> By: Punter http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/10/01/finns-second-least-keen-in-eu-on-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-338898 Punter Fri, 05 Oct 2007 09:34:16 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/10/01/finns-second-least-keen-in-eu-on-culture/#comment-338898 #29 Do you mean the same rednecks that preach hatred for anyone following Islam? Having read your views on migration in previous posts, the last thing I would have expected to hear from you was a complaint about the "rednecks" in your home country. Wonders never cease ;) #29 Do you mean the same rednecks that preach hatred for anyone following Islam? Having read your views on migration in previous posts, the last thing I would have expected to hear from you was a complaint about the “rednecks” in your home country. Wonders never cease ;)

]]> By: bafana http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/10/01/finns-second-least-keen-in-eu-on-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-338859 bafana Thu, 04 Oct 2007 06:12:28 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/10/01/finns-second-least-keen-in-eu-on-culture/#comment-338859 Being Austrian myself I am (negatively) impressed by the ranking of my country. However, the bottom ranking does not surprise me a bit. On the one hand Austria has an incredible amount of culture on offer in any type of art one can think of, which has resulted from glorious past. At the same time, after 1945 the country was left over full of stupid rednecks who only care about where their next beer and sauerkraut comes from. Unfortunately that hasn't changed much. All smart people of Austria were killed if they couldn't run away quickly enough. Those left over are the lederhosen jodlers who consider any other type of art as degenerated. Being Austrian myself I am (negatively) impressed by the ranking of my country. However, the bottom ranking does not surprise me a bit. On the one hand Austria has an incredible amount of culture on offer in any type of art one can think of, which has resulted from glorious past. At the same time, after 1945 the country was left over full of stupid rednecks who only care about where their next beer and sauerkraut comes from. Unfortunately that hasn’t changed much. All smart people of Austria were killed if they couldn’t run away quickly enough. Those left over are the lederhosen jodlers who consider any other type of art as degenerated.

]]> By: Dave the Revelator http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/10/01/finns-second-least-keen-in-eu-on-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-338799 Dave the Revelator Tue, 02 Oct 2007 17:00:41 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/10/01/finns-second-least-keen-in-eu-on-culture/#comment-338799 I think you have more leverage as a devoted listener than I could ever have (if I indeed was employed there / or if I was not). Write them often and tell them you listen. I know for a fact they pay attention to viewer / listeners carefully. I think you have more leverage as a devoted listener than I could ever have (if I indeed was employed there / or if I was not). Write them often and tell them you listen.

I know for a fact they pay attention to viewer / listeners carefully.

]]> By: JG http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/10/01/finns-second-least-keen-in-eu-on-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-338791 JG Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:32:16 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/10/01/finns-second-least-keen-in-eu-on-culture/#comment-338791 Yes, I am growing critical in my old age. I hope it does improve. I fear for Svenska Yle with the job cuts coming, seems extremely silly just as we finally get our proper own channel on tv and Tv-Nytt has seemingly improved a lot since digi-tv (I don't mean the new studio and graphics - which is nice enough - but the important bit, i.e. the content seems to have improved quite significantly). And now they decide to cut jobs. Must be a slap in the face for the staff from the management. Already regional programming on Radio Vega seems to have suffered (the Yle marketing campaign calls it in "improvement" to have a common regional mid-morning programme for the whole of Nyland - but it just means less local coverage in reality). Dave, do you work at Yle? Please tell them, during these cut backs, to keep their hands off Aktuellt 17 on Radio Vega, if they don't I will personally come down to Böle and punch someone. It's the best and most comprehensive news/current affairs programme left in Swedish in Finland and is my essential daily listening! Yes, I am growing critical in my old age. I hope it does improve. I fear for Svenska Yle with the job cuts coming, seems extremely silly just as we finally get our proper own channel on tv and Tv-Nytt has seemingly improved a lot since digi-tv (I don’t mean the new studio and graphics – which is nice enough – but the important bit, i.e. the content seems to have improved quite significantly). And now they decide to cut jobs. Must be a slap in the face for the staff from the management.
Already regional programming on Radio Vega seems to have suffered (the Yle marketing campaign calls it in “improvement” to have a common regional mid-morning programme for the whole of Nyland – but it just means less local coverage in reality).
Dave, do you work at Yle? Please tell them, during these cut backs, to keep their hands off Aktuellt 17 on Radio Vega, if they don’t I will personally come down to Böle and punch someone. It’s the best and most comprehensive news/current affairs programme left in Swedish in Finland and is my essential daily listening!

]]> By: Dave the Revelator http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/10/01/finns-second-least-keen-in-eu-on-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-338789 Dave the Revelator Tue, 02 Oct 2007 13:11:38 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/10/01/finns-second-least-keen-in-eu-on-culture/#comment-338789 I believe it all is a work in progress, Mr. Critical. I believe it all is a work in progress, Mr. Critical.

]]> By: JG http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/10/01/finns-second-least-keen-in-eu-on-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-338780 JG Tue, 02 Oct 2007 12:21:12 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/10/01/finns-second-least-keen-in-eu-on-culture/#comment-338780 YLE have just (this week) updated their Swedish language news website (svenska.yle.fi/nyheter), the new version is horrible if you ask me. The Finnish Uutiset site isn't great either. I do like Yle internet's new Areena service though. I wonder why Google does not provide a Finnish version of Google News. There is a version for Sweden (which actually sucks up news from Svenska Yle and Husis occasionally). Norway has a version too. YLE have just (this week) updated their Swedish language news website (svenska.yle.fi/nyheter), the new version is horrible if you ask me. The Finnish Uutiset site isn’t great either.
I do like Yle internet’s new Areena service though.

I wonder why Google does not provide a Finnish version of Google News. There is a version for Sweden (which actually sucks up news from Svenska Yle and Husis occasionally). Norway has a version too.

]]> By: Dave the Revelator http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/10/01/finns-second-least-keen-in-eu-on-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-338777 Dave the Revelator Tue, 02 Oct 2007 11:44:11 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/10/01/finns-second-least-keen-in-eu-on-culture/#comment-338777 "Private news organizations like Hesari surely would have linked to the report, yet public-funded YLE did not.2" - Phil If you haven't noticed, YLE's web presence has not been that great in the past few years. It has nothing to do with public/private entities, it had to do with management and how much financial resources YLE was putting into its web presence. I have on very good authority that you will see a dramatic increase of content on YLE's pages in the coming months, including streaming video of domestic and international news and other content. Trust me on this one. “Private news organizations like Hesari surely would have linked to the report, yet public-funded YLE did not.2″ – Phil

If you haven’t noticed, YLE’s web presence has not been that great in the past few years. It has nothing to do with public/private entities, it had to do with management and how much financial resources YLE was putting into its web presence.

I have on very good authority that you will see a dramatic increase of content on YLE’s pages in the coming months, including streaming video of domestic and international news and other content.

Trust me on this one.

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