I agree. It’s just that it’s REALLY hard to lose that right to study… I happen to study music in Finland and I’ve never heard of ANYONE who has been kicked off from any school - except if one doesn’t study at all for some reason (maybe he’ll get kicked in let’s say, ten years). The only person I know who actually lost the right to study, is a voice student who lost the right to have voice lessons because she didn’t attend obligatory music history classes in five years. She will get the voice lessons back when she attends those history lessons - and meanwhile she can attend all the other studies.

For example if someone gets in to an accident and is unable to play his/her own instrument afterwards, they might even want to discuss whether the student wants to learn a new instrument or change the department or get into research or something. And I know a lot of musicians having drug/alcohol problems. But as long they do their job/homework/whatever, no one really cares. That’s why we HAVE so many musicians having drug/alcohol problems.

Of course I would rather listen to opera performed by drunks than be vaccinated by a person who has hallucinations.

~Becky

The concept of abuse implies that the use causes problems, although I do concede that in the narcophobic atmosphere that still prevails in many countries today, the implication is that any consumption of one of the drugs classified as illegal is, by definition, “abuse”, whether or not any problems are involved.

Not so very long ago, any kind of sexual activity involving something other than married spouses of opposite genders engaging in vaginal intercourse with the man on top for the purpose of procreation was, by definition, “perversion”.

Lest someone not recognise the sarcasm, here’s the original Finnish text:

“Lain mukaan ammatillisessa koulutuksessa oleva opiskelija voi menettää opinto-oikeutensa, jos hänellä ei ole edellytyksiä työskentelyyn ammatissa. Pykälää tosin sovelletaan vain muusikoihin ja lennonjohtajiin…”

My neighbor misses work for 3 days. He was on drugs. To drugged out to work.

He gets fired.

And wonders why?

Geee

and where are the Tar and Feathers?

gEE.. NO BRAINER

I’m not going to argue what the quoted sentence semantically means. But the paper edition of HeSa today (21.9) more or less directly expressed, that Sarkomaa wants to extend the abillity to expel “päihdeongelmaiset” (i.e. not only drug abusers) from social and health care schools, which is something that is currently in use only for air traffic control & music students. I must say it caught my eye too, and sounds too crazy to be true. Why Sarkomaa didn’t include medical schools - while she’s eagerly hunting for freebies - is beyond me.

But Joel Hallikainen did. The results fell somewhat short of Revolver or Sgt Pepper.

Otto Donner recommended MJ and mescaline warmly in 1964:

http://users.lycaeum.org/~sky/julkaisut/hamppu/hamppu1.93/saksittu.html

Where is he going to study then in a country with practically no private schools?

It says a student in vocational training can lose the right to study if he or she is incapable of working in the profession itself.

Says nothing about drugs there. Says - if the tuba player gets asthma and can’t blow. Or the drummer has no rythm. Or the singer has no voice.