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	<title>Comments on: Finland no longer suicide capital of the world</title>
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		<title>By: Memphis Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/09/19/finland-no-longer-suicide-capital-of-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-381101</link>
		<dc:creator>Memphis Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 14:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised at how difficult it is to find more information on this subject. I mean, it&#039;s good that things have improved, but after 60 Minutes did a story on depression among Finnish males it was as if the story was somehow banned in America after that. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised at how difficult it is to find more information on this subject. I mean, it&#8217;s good that things have improved, but after 60 Minutes did a story on depression among Finnish males it was as if the story was somehow banned in America after that. </p>
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		<title>By: Len Lempa</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/09/19/finland-no-longer-suicide-capital-of-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-380835</link>
		<dc:creator>Len Lempa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2011 11:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The finns are also doing amazing work with schizophrenia using an amazing model called the Open Dialogue approach.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The finns are also doing amazing work with schizophrenia using an amazing model called the Open Dialogue approach. </p>
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		<title>By: dogs food</title>
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		<dc:creator>dogs food</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 14:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of my objectives in existence would be to discover as much as I can and this weblog certainly teached me some things.

Happy running a blog..lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my objectives in existence would be to discover as much as I can and this weblog certainly teached me some things.</p>
<p>Happy running a blog..lol</p>
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		<title>By: kia</title>
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		<dc:creator>kia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 22:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have tried suicide once and im from finland omg! haha moi kaikki ihanat suomalaiset jotka lukee tätäkin paska kirjotusta salee on vissii kans joo angstisin maa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have tried suicide once and im from finland omg! haha moi kaikki ihanat suomalaiset jotka lukee tätäkin paska kirjotusta salee on vissii kans joo angstisin maa</p>
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		<title>By: another suicide</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/09/19/finland-no-longer-suicide-capital-of-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-369725</link>
		<dc:creator>another suicide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://nccbsource.blogspot.com/2009/01/compulsory-military-service-results-to.html

finland - unhappiest place on earth</description>
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<p>finland &#8211; unhappiest place on earth</p>
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		<title>By: JG</title>
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		<dc:creator>JG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 00:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the evidence of recent blog entries on FfT, this country really is falling to bits. Only bronze in divorce and now we are not even world champions in suicide. It&#039;s all very disappointing. I really hope it&#039;s not the Swedes that have beaten us. We must try harder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the evidence of recent blog entries on FfT, this country really is falling to bits. Only bronze in divorce and now we are not even world champions in suicide. It&#8217;s all very disappointing. I really hope it&#8217;s not the Swedes that have beaten us. We must try harder.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 08:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;You see, this blog isnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t ALWAYS so negative and criticalÃ¢â‚¬Â¦!&lt;/i&gt;

Also Reader&#039;s Digest, the apple pie of the American press, has turned nanny:

http://www.rd.com/content/best-places-to-live-green/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>You see, this blog isnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t ALWAYS so negative and criticalÃ¢â‚¬Â¦!</i></p>
<p>Also Reader&#8217;s Digest, the apple pie of the American press, has turned nanny:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rd.com/content/best-places-to-live-green/" rel="nofollow">http://www.rd.com/content/best-places-to-live-green/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Freeridin' Franklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freeridin' Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Yuk, guys, they just pained the house (inside), and the new Sauna room.

How will the paint last under a hot Sauna bake off?&lt;/i&gt;

Maby, just maby, you might have wanted to consider that BEFORE you chose the paint? Do tell me you used regular latex paint...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Yuk, guys, they just pained the house (inside), and the new Sauna room.</p>
<p>How will the paint last under a hot Sauna bake off?</i></p>
<p>Maby, just maby, you might have wanted to consider that BEFORE you chose the paint? Do tell me you used regular latex paint&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave the Defibrillator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave the Defibrillator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A vapor barrier is also a good idea to keep heat in. They probably have special ones at sauna suppliers.&quot; - Kristian

I think there is the last sauna monopoly in existence in the US, located somewhere in Minnesota or was it Michigan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A vapor barrier is also a good idea to keep heat in. They probably have special ones at sauna suppliers.&#8221; &#8211; Kristian</p>
<p>I think there is the last sauna monopoly in existence in the US, located somewhere in Minnesota or was it Michigan.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 12:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would just use 5/8&quot; pine boards that can be locked together by the end-grooves. Leave unpainted!  

The benches can also be made from pine (unless you can find adler, as Sirkuspelle suggested), but use thick 5/4&quot; stock for horizontal and diagonal supporting members---clean, no knots! Vertical posts can be 3.5^2 square or slightly less. Slats for sitting and standing can be the normal 3/4&quot; if spaces between supports aren&#039;t too wide; otherwise use 5/4&quot;.

Pay attention to the railings. Make sure the posts go all the way to the floor where they are anchored. Or have some type of triangular design underneath to support lateral forces.  Just don&#039;t let him do simple tack-on railing posts. You&#039;ll regret it.

For insulation, you might consider blown-in, rigid foam.  But make sure you&#039;ve got enough space to let air vent-out between the stud bays. Drill holes in the top and bottom plates of the frame wall to let air circulate.  Without the air channels, the structure can rot from the back side.  

A vapor barrier is also a good idea to keep heat in.  They probably have special ones at sauna suppliers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would just use 5/8&#8243; pine boards that can be locked together by the end-grooves. Leave unpainted!  </p>
<p>The benches can also be made from pine (unless you can find adler, as Sirkuspelle suggested), but use thick 5/4&#8243; stock for horizontal and diagonal supporting members&#8212;clean, no knots! Vertical posts can be 3.5^2 square or slightly less. Slats for sitting and standing can be the normal 3/4&#8243; if spaces between supports aren&#8217;t too wide; otherwise use 5/4&#8243;.</p>
<p>Pay attention to the railings. Make sure the posts go all the way to the floor where they are anchored. Or have some type of triangular design underneath to support lateral forces.  Just don&#8217;t let him do simple tack-on railing posts. You&#8217;ll regret it.</p>
<p>For insulation, you might consider blown-in, rigid foam.  But make sure you&#8217;ve got enough space to let air vent-out between the stud bays. Drill holes in the top and bottom plates of the frame wall to let air circulate.  Without the air channels, the structure can rot from the back side.  </p>
<p>A vapor barrier is also a good idea to keep heat in.  They probably have special ones at sauna suppliers.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave the Defibrillator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave the Defibrillator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 08:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;How will the paint last under a hot Sauna bake off? I plan to cover the room in Cedar, so that could shield the paint.&quot; - winter

Apparently you and your builders know as much about saunas as you do about everything else.

Saunas reach temperatures of up to 100 degrees C, and god knows how hot the walls get. There should be nothing like paint in there.

The paint will &quot;last&quot; a couple of saunas, but after a few weeks of regular use what you will have is paint fumes seeping through the cracks, over months and years who knows what the paint will do (carcinogens, anyone? Oh, but you have proton power at your disposal, so no worries about cancer, right?)

You should have some insulation between the sauna walls and any other surface. What you have going on now is a mistake.

And your plans of cedar? Eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How will the paint last under a hot Sauna bake off? I plan to cover the room in Cedar, so that could shield the paint.&#8221; &#8211; winter</p>
<p>Apparently you and your builders know as much about saunas as you do about everything else.</p>
<p>Saunas reach temperatures of up to 100 degrees C, and god knows how hot the walls get. There should be nothing like paint in there.</p>
<p>The paint will &#8220;last&#8221; a couple of saunas, but after a few weeks of regular use what you will have is paint fumes seeping through the cracks, over months and years who knows what the paint will do (carcinogens, anyone? Oh, but you have proton power at your disposal, so no worries about cancer, right?)</p>
<p>You should have some insulation between the sauna walls and any other surface. What you have going on now is a mistake.</p>
<p>And your plans of cedar? Eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave the Defibrillator</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/09/19/finland-no-longer-suicide-capital-of-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-338166</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave the Defibrillator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 08:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You see, this blog isnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t ALWAYS so negative and criticalÃ¢â‚¬Â¦!&quot; - Phil

Well then why do I always want to kill myself after visiting it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You see, this blog isnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t ALWAYS so negative and criticalÃ¢â‚¬Â¦!&#8221; &#8211; Phil</p>
<p>Well then why do I always want to kill myself after visiting it?</p>
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		<title>By: Sirkuspelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sirkuspelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 06:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@13: Cedar? You mean like cigar-box cedar? That might not be very good for you in the long run. I have heard the sawdust from that is toxic. Sauna walls are normally surfaced with spruce and the benches are made with alder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@13: Cedar? You mean like cigar-box cedar? That might not be very good for you in the long run. I have heard the sawdust from that is toxic. Sauna walls are normally surfaced with spruce and the benches are made with alder.</p>
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		<title>By: d larue</title>
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		<dc:creator>d larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 05:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i plan to help america gain its share soon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i plan to help america gain its share soon</p>
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		<title>By: winter Ã¢â‚¬Å“Yea, Proton Power, now in remissionÃ¢â‚¬Â</title>
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		<dc:creator>winter Ã¢â‚¬Å“Yea, Proton Power, now in remissionÃ¢â‚¬Â</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yuk, guys, they just pained the house (inside), and the new Sauna room.

How will the paint last under a hot Sauna bake off? I plan to cover the room in Cedar, so that could shield the paint.

Any Ideas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yuk, guys, they just pained the house (inside), and the new Sauna room.</p>
<p>How will the paint last under a hot Sauna bake off? I plan to cover the room in Cedar, so that could shield the paint.</p>
<p>Any Ideas?</p>
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