Comments on: Finland no longer suicide capital of the world http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/09/19/finland-no-longer-suicide-capital-of-the-world/ Politics, current events, culture - From Finland & United States Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:33:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: another suicide http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/09/19/finland-no-longer-suicide-capital-of-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-369725 another suicide Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:52:32 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/09/19/finland-no-longer-suicide-capital-of-the-world/#comment-369725 http://nccbsource.blogspot.com/2009/01/compulsory-military-service-results-to.html finland - unhappiest place on earth http://nccbsource.blogspot.com/2009/01/compulsory-military-service-results-to.html

finland – unhappiest place on earth

]]> By: JG http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/09/19/finland-no-longer-suicide-capital-of-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-338706 JG Mon, 01 Oct 2007 00:28:18 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/09/19/finland-no-longer-suicide-capital-of-the-world/#comment-338706 From the evidence of recent blog entries on FfT, this country really is falling to bits. Only bronze in divorce and now we are not even world champions in suicide. It's all very disappointing. I really hope it's not the Swedes that have beaten us. We must try harder. From the evidence of recent blog entries on FfT, this country really is falling to bits. Only bronze in divorce and now we are not even world champions in suicide. It’s all very disappointing. I really hope it’s not the Swedes that have beaten us. We must try harder.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/09/19/finland-no-longer-suicide-capital-of-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-338212 Anonymous Fri, 21 Sep 2007 08:46:58 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/09/19/finland-no-longer-suicide-capital-of-the-world/#comment-338212 <i>You see, this blog isn’t ALWAYS so negative and critical…!</i> Also Reader's Digest, the apple pie of the American press, has turned nanny: http://www.rd.com/content/best-places-to-live-green/ You see, this blog isn’t ALWAYS so negative and critical…!

Also Reader’s Digest, the apple pie of the American press, has turned nanny:

http://www.rd.com/content/best-places-to-live-green/

]]> By: Freeridin' Franklin http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/09/19/finland-no-longer-suicide-capital-of-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-338204 Freeridin' Franklin Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:57:59 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/09/19/finland-no-longer-suicide-capital-of-the-world/#comment-338204 <i>Yuk, guys, they just pained the house (inside), and the new Sauna room. How will the paint last under a hot Sauna bake off?</i> Maby, just maby, you might have wanted to consider that BEFORE you chose the paint? Do tell me you used regular latex paint... Yuk, guys, they just pained the house (inside), and the new Sauna room.

How will the paint last under a hot Sauna bake off?

Maby, just maby, you might have wanted to consider that BEFORE you chose the paint? Do tell me you used regular latex paint…

]]> By: Dave the Defibrillator http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/09/19/finland-no-longer-suicide-capital-of-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-338201 Dave the Defibrillator Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:34:46 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/09/19/finland-no-longer-suicide-capital-of-the-world/#comment-338201 "A vapor barrier is also a good idea to keep heat in. They probably have special ones at sauna suppliers." - Kristian I think there is the last sauna monopoly in existence in the US, located somewhere in Minnesota or was it Michigan. “A vapor barrier is also a good idea to keep heat in. They probably have special ones at sauna suppliers.” – Kristian

I think there is the last sauna monopoly in existence in the US, located somewhere in Minnesota or was it Michigan.

]]> By: Kristian http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/09/19/finland-no-longer-suicide-capital-of-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-338187 Kristian Thu, 20 Sep 2007 12:21:25 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/09/19/finland-no-longer-suicide-capital-of-the-world/#comment-338187 I would just use 5/8" pine boards that can be locked together by the end-grooves. Leave unpainted! The benches can also be made from pine (unless you can find adler, as Sirkuspelle suggested), but use thick 5/4" stock for horizontal and diagonal supporting members---clean, no knots! Vertical posts can be 3.5^2 square or slightly less. Slats for sitting and standing can be the normal 3/4" if spaces between supports aren't too wide; otherwise use 5/4". Pay attention to the railings. Make sure the posts go all the way to the floor where they are anchored. Or have some type of triangular design underneath to support lateral forces. Just don't let him do simple tack-on railing posts. You'll regret it. For insulation, you might consider blown-in, rigid foam. But make sure you've got enough space to let air vent-out between the stud bays. Drill holes in the top and bottom plates of the frame wall to let air circulate. Without the air channels, the structure can rot from the back side. A vapor barrier is also a good idea to keep heat in. They probably have special ones at sauna suppliers. I would just use 5/8″ pine boards that can be locked together by the end-grooves. Leave unpainted!

The benches can also be made from pine (unless you can find adler, as Sirkuspelle suggested), but use thick 5/4″ stock for horizontal and diagonal supporting members—clean, no knots! Vertical posts can be 3.5^2 square or slightly less. Slats for sitting and standing can be the normal 3/4″ if spaces between supports aren’t too wide; otherwise use 5/4″.

Pay attention to the railings. Make sure the posts go all the way to the floor where they are anchored. Or have some type of triangular design underneath to support lateral forces. Just don’t let him do simple tack-on railing posts. You’ll regret it.

For insulation, you might consider blown-in, rigid foam. But make sure you’ve got enough space to let air vent-out between the stud bays. Drill holes in the top and bottom plates of the frame wall to let air circulate. Without the air channels, the structure can rot from the back side.

A vapor barrier is also a good idea to keep heat in. They probably have special ones at sauna suppliers.

]]> By: Dave the Defibrillator http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/09/19/finland-no-longer-suicide-capital-of-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-338168 Dave the Defibrillator Thu, 20 Sep 2007 08:25:41 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/09/19/finland-no-longer-suicide-capital-of-the-world/#comment-338168 "How will the paint last under a hot Sauna bake off? I plan to cover the room in Cedar, so that could shield the paint." - winter Apparently you and your builders know as much about saunas as you do about everything else. Saunas reach temperatures of up to 100 degrees C, and god knows how hot the walls get. There should be nothing like paint in there. The paint will "last" a couple of saunas, but after a few weeks of regular use what you will have is paint fumes seeping through the cracks, over months and years who knows what the paint will do (carcinogens, anyone? Oh, but you have proton power at your disposal, so no worries about cancer, right?) You should have some insulation between the sauna walls and any other surface. What you have going on now is a mistake. And your plans of cedar? Eh? “How will the paint last under a hot Sauna bake off? I plan to cover the room in Cedar, so that could shield the paint.” – winter

Apparently you and your builders know as much about saunas as you do about everything else.

Saunas reach temperatures of up to 100 degrees C, and god knows how hot the walls get. There should be nothing like paint in there.

The paint will “last” a couple of saunas, but after a few weeks of regular use what you will have is paint fumes seeping through the cracks, over months and years who knows what the paint will do (carcinogens, anyone? Oh, but you have proton power at your disposal, so no worries about cancer, right?)

You should have some insulation between the sauna walls and any other surface. What you have going on now is a mistake.

And your plans of cedar? Eh?

]]> By: Dave the Defibrillator http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/09/19/finland-no-longer-suicide-capital-of-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-338166 Dave the Defibrillator Thu, 20 Sep 2007 08:12:59 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/09/19/finland-no-longer-suicide-capital-of-the-world/#comment-338166 "You see, this blog isn’t ALWAYS so negative and critical…!" - Phil Well then why do I always want to kill myself after visiting it? “You see, this blog isn’t ALWAYS so negative and critical…!” – Phil

Well then why do I always want to kill myself after visiting it?

]]> By: Sirkuspelle http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/09/19/finland-no-longer-suicide-capital-of-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-338161 Sirkuspelle Thu, 20 Sep 2007 06:22:01 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/09/19/finland-no-longer-suicide-capital-of-the-world/#comment-338161 @13: Cedar? You mean like cigar-box cedar? That might not be very good for you in the long run. I have heard the sawdust from that is toxic. Sauna walls are normally surfaced with spruce and the benches are made with alder. @13: Cedar? You mean like cigar-box cedar? That might not be very good for you in the long run. I have heard the sawdust from that is toxic. Sauna walls are normally surfaced with spruce and the benches are made with alder.

]]> By: d larue http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/09/19/finland-no-longer-suicide-capital-of-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-338160 d larue Thu, 20 Sep 2007 05:12:46 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/09/19/finland-no-longer-suicide-capital-of-the-world/#comment-338160 i plan to help america gain its share soon i plan to help america gain its share soon

]]> By: winter “Yea, Proton Power, now in remission” http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/09/19/finland-no-longer-suicide-capital-of-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-338157 winter “Yea, Proton Power, now in remission” Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:42:19 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/09/19/finland-no-longer-suicide-capital-of-the-world/#comment-338157 Yuk, guys, they just pained the house (inside), and the new Sauna room. How will the paint last under a hot Sauna bake off? I plan to cover the room in Cedar, so that could shield the paint. Any Ideas? Yuk, guys, they just pained the house (inside), and the new Sauna room.

How will the paint last under a hot Sauna bake off? I plan to cover the room in Cedar, so that could shield the paint.

Any Ideas?

]]> By: tim73 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/09/19/finland-no-longer-suicide-capital-of-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-338155 tim73 Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:11:59 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/09/19/finland-no-longer-suicide-capital-of-the-world/#comment-338155 One thing really American Phil shoud ask: is Commodore-64. THAT WAS THE MACHINE. Kuuslankku ja mikrobitti. One thing really American Phil shoud ask: is Commodore-64. THAT WAS THE MACHINE. Kuuslankku ja mikrobitti.

]]> By: tim73 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/09/19/finland-no-longer-suicide-capital-of-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-338149 tim73 Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:01:39 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/09/19/finland-no-longer-suicide-capital-of-the-world/#comment-338149 People who do not think much, die of external reasons. People who think too much, die of internal reasons. People who do not think much, die of external reasons. People who think too much, die of internal reasons.

]]> By: sirkuspelle http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/09/19/finland-no-longer-suicide-capital-of-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-338148 sirkuspelle Wed, 19 Sep 2007 19:59:10 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/09/19/finland-no-longer-suicide-capital-of-the-world/#comment-338148 I wonder how Hungary is doing nowadays. It was always right after Finland in the statistics. There is a whole different atmosphere there. The people are open, talkative and expressive. Yet there was (is?) a high suicide rate. I wonder how Hungary is doing nowadays. It was always right after Finland in the statistics.

There is a whole different atmosphere there. The people are open, talkative and expressive. Yet there was (is?) a high suicide rate.

]]> By: tim73 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/09/19/finland-no-longer-suicide-capital-of-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-338144 tim73 Wed, 19 Sep 2007 19:32:32 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/09/19/finland-no-longer-suicide-capital-of-the-world/#comment-338144 In many eastern cultures suicide is respectable way to go (like Japan) and Finns is a rare breed of both western and eastern. Put Phil in Vietnam and he is not going to understand local (ironic) jokes at all but Finns will. In many eastern cultures suicide is respectable way to go (like Japan) and Finns is a rare breed of both western and eastern. Put Phil in Vietnam and he is not going to understand local (ironic) jokes at all but Finns will.

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