I believe that the food was good, but I prefer eating in local places, sniffing different atmospheres.

I was “on your dick about” the most dangerous argument there is: “Stop whining because it doesn’t do any good”. It works for anything anybody posts or comments here or anywhere but so what? Should we all just stop discussing because it’s not “helping out tons”? I don’t think you really feel that way as you are here – posting.

I see now that you actually meant that Spoilsport’s posting was indeed hurtful, not just fruitless. There’s some flawled logic in that: How much extra energy does it take to deliver such a small amount of information as his/her comment? Besides, maybe Spoilsport was using a public computer that would have been on (and online) the whole time anyway (as I am currently). Sure, it takes some electricity but does it really matter in this consumption-crazy world? I mean, enough for you to make snide remarks about it.

You seem to have missed Spoilsport’s point entirely. I didn’t see him/her complain about every kind of consuming, only the cruising kind which (s)he argues is relatively very destructive.

But I guess I misunderstood you also.

It’s called the Internet. Welcome! It’s where people slam each other anonymously.

What I find funny is the fact that a couple of times you’ve called someone out as being “defensive” about something they believe in when in fact you are just as defensive, if not more. The only difference is that you candy coat it with smileys and a Mr. Rogers-like attitude.

My big problem with you lecturing others on wasting natural resources or polluting the environment is that just by making one post about it on the Internet, you are also wasting natural resources. You post gets set from your computer to where FFT is hosted. That’s at least 15 hops. Which means you are using at least 15 different devices hosted at 15 different places which use electricity. Each of those 15 places gets it’s electricity from a plant that gets it’s power from either a coal, oil or nuclear source (no I didn’t forget air or water on accident). Each option has some kind of an effect on the environment.

Al Gore is a perfect example of hypocrisy in this subject.

While I don’t take pleasure in my contributions to the destruction of the environment. I’ve recognized it and learned to live with it. You need to as well – if anything for the sake of not pissing off others. When someone invents that thing they used in Back To The Future to power the Delorean with trash, we’ll all be happier.

QFT – as you cool kids on the Internet like to say.

I don’t know if I should take that as a flame or not. Choose your own adventure. If it was a flame then I’d have to ask if you have ever used acronym yourself. If you have then why are you on my dick about it? If it wasn’t a flame then I can say that I am lazy, it’s a lot easier typing three letters instead of typing out “quoted for truth”. I don’t consider it cool, just convenient.

QFT – as you cool kids on the Internet like to say.

Now that is funny.

It all depends on the shipping line, the recruiter, the nationality of the employee and the job they are assigned to. Then there is the issue of who you are kicking part of your salary to on the ship to avoid getting a lower-paying, crappier job.

At least that way, once you’ve paid for the whole cruise, that’s that, with no expectation of forking out more protection money coerced through emotional blackmail.

Some American friends of mine came to Finland a couple of summers ago, and rounded up their trip with a cruise on the Kristina regina, going from Helsinki to St. Petersburg, Tallinn, Riga, Visby, and back to Helsinki. The fact that there nobody expected tips (the crew were paid a living wage, which was naturally reflected in the price) was one of the high points of their entire vacation.

“Kristian was great, I loved him. He is the only one to make Finns look out of the box, and actually suggest a solution rather than be a constant critic.

Comment by winter — Wed, May 30th, 2007 @ 3:33 pm ”

Voi Kristian parka ja raukka. He was in enough black water already for disposing illegally of sewage from the good ship “Public Transport Thread”, and now he’s up to his eyes in shit, thanks to Comrade Winter’s ringing endorsement.

With friends like those, who needs enemas, eh?

Still finding it hard BTW to fathom why a 27-year-old apparently not in a wheelchair has no more ambition than to be on a ship full of his or her countrymen, exploring Europe in one-hour air-conditioned bites. It’s great for the wrinklies and the blue-rinse crowd, I’m sure, and a gigolo would probably have a field-day with the HRT wives and widows, but… well.. it’s not very “adventurous” is it?

“Everybody back on the bus!”

Since we’ve seemingly banished the more sophisticated trollers, we’re left with the fur hat variety.

That some people reduce themselves to actually arguing with them might be an indication of FFT’s demise.

This is the most annoying thing about cruises, really. You get to spend a day in cities where you wouldn’t run out of things to do in a year.

Cruise companies actually have to pay hotel staff more when ships work in European/Med waters as the tipping prospects are much worse there. So one way or another, you are paying. The difference is how many hands handle the money.

Yeah, and your posting on the Internet about it is helping out tons.

But then that why I like kristian, showing off the stupidness of the posting bloggers. Did they show any solution, thats workable, or just the same old “you pollute” crap.