Comments on: Caution: Public saunas for experts only! http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/05/26/caution-public-saunas-for-experts-only/ Politics, current events, culture - From Finland & United States Wed, 07 Jan 2009 08:32:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Kristian http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/05/26/caution-public-saunas-for-experts-only/comment-page-1/#comment-332261 Kristian Tue, 29 May 2007 17:31:13 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/05/26/caution-public-saunas-for-experts-only/#comment-332261 "<i>I started a lukewarm flame fest </i>" Yes, lukewarm indeed. :lol: You can keep flaming. But here's the post... http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/05/25/finns-choosing-overpriced-cars-over-sparse-public-transit/ I explained what happened in the comments. “I started a lukewarm flame fest ”

Yes, lukewarm indeed. :lol: You can keep flaming. But here’s the post…
http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/05/25/finns-choosing-overpriced-cars-over-sparse-public-transit/

I explained what happened in the comments.

]]> By: Dave the Slave http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/05/26/caution-public-saunas-for-experts-only/comment-page-1/#comment-332221 Dave the Slave Mon, 28 May 2007 12:27:43 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/05/26/caution-public-saunas-for-experts-only/#comment-332221 To JG: "The Management" refuses to comment on the disappeared blog post. So much for "freedom lovin' Libertarians." I started a lukewarm flame fest at: http://forum.finlandforthought.net/viewtopic.php?t=41 To JG: “The Management” refuses to comment on the disappeared blog post. So much for “freedom lovin’ Libertarians.” I started a lukewarm flame fest at:

http://forum.finlandforthought.net/viewtopic.php?t=41

]]> By: JG http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/05/26/caution-public-saunas-for-experts-only/comment-page-1/#comment-332217 JG Mon, 28 May 2007 10:46:09 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/05/26/caution-public-saunas-for-experts-only/#comment-332217 What has happened to the bus / public transport entry and comments? Has Kristian censored it? What has happened to the bus / public transport entry and comments? Has Kristian censored it?

]]> By: Antti rn http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/05/26/caution-public-saunas-for-experts-only/comment-page-1/#comment-332195 Antti rn Sun, 27 May 2007 15:04:44 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/05/26/caution-public-saunas-for-experts-only/#comment-332195 In other song he was "milked enough by the system" and fed-up with YLE news and in other one being a "forest finn". You make the judgement. In other song he was “milked enough by the system” and fed-up with YLE news and in other one being a “forest finn”. You make the judgement.

]]> By: Mika K. http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/05/26/caution-public-saunas-for-experts-only/comment-page-1/#comment-332191 Mika K. Sun, 27 May 2007 13:56:19 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/05/26/caution-public-saunas-for-experts-only/#comment-332191 only idiots live in north dakota only idiots live in north dakota

]]> By: Mika K. http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/05/26/caution-public-saunas-for-experts-only/comment-page-1/#comment-332190 Mika K. Sun, 27 May 2007 13:48:42 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/05/26/caution-public-saunas-for-experts-only/#comment-332190 what's wrong with you Jim Z? what’s wrong with you Jim Z?

]]> By: Jim Z http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/05/26/caution-public-saunas-for-experts-only/comment-page-1/#comment-332189 Jim Z Sun, 27 May 2007 13:40:21 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/05/26/caution-public-saunas-for-experts-only/#comment-332189 “Yleisessä saunassa olin opissa Enso-Gutzeitin aamuvuoro istui kuumassa kopissa.” So he was a big SDP fan and redneck??? “Yleisessä saunassa
olin opissa
Enso-Gutzeitin aamuvuoro istui kuumassa kopissa.”

So he was a big SDP fan and redneck???

]]> By: Antti rn http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/05/26/caution-public-saunas-for-experts-only/comment-page-1/#comment-332182 Antti rn Sun, 27 May 2007 11:50:55 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/05/26/caution-public-saunas-for-experts-only/#comment-332182 "who is that guy?" No intention to puzzle people. If only Ezra Pound or someone had dropped a line or two to shed light on soul of a public sauna, I could have used that reference instead. Juha Vainio was a finnish songmaker. This song was about public sauna, where his father took him with the rest of Enso-Gutzeit (now Stora Enso) plant morning shift workers and where he learnt a thing or two about life by listening their sauna talk. “who is that guy?”

No intention to puzzle people. If only Ezra Pound or someone had dropped a line or two to shed light on soul of a public sauna, I could have used that reference instead.

Juha Vainio was a finnish songmaker. This song was about public sauna, where his father took him with the rest of Enso-Gutzeit (now Stora Enso) plant morning shift workers and where he learnt a thing or two about life by listening their sauna talk.

]]> By: Dave the Slave http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/05/26/caution-public-saunas-for-experts-only/comment-page-1/#comment-332173 Dave the Slave Sun, 27 May 2007 02:46:38 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/05/26/caution-public-saunas-for-experts-only/#comment-332173 Additionally, all this fucking bullshit about "censorship" is tripe. I was away for 24 hours, how bad could it possibly have gotten that you're deleting your own posts. You really missed the bus, K. Additionally, all this fucking bullshit about “censorship” is tripe. I was away for 24 hours, how bad could it possibly have gotten that you’re deleting your own posts.

You really missed the bus, K.

]]> By: Dave the Slave http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/05/26/caution-public-saunas-for-experts-only/comment-page-1/#comment-332172 Dave the Slave Sun, 27 May 2007 02:44:46 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/05/26/caution-public-saunas-for-experts-only/#comment-332172 What the fuck? No bus problemo? This is from ass... as they say 'round these parts. What the fuck? No bus problemo? This is from ass… as they say ’round these parts.

]]> By: Fred Fry http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/05/26/caution-public-saunas-for-experts-only/comment-page-1/#comment-332162 Fred Fry Sat, 26 May 2007 20:47:43 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/05/26/caution-public-saunas-for-experts-only/#comment-332162 I was in a hotel sauna in Tampere. There was a bachelor party taking most of the space. Then an older guy came in and started throwing water on the stove while askng what kind of 'men' were in there with such a cold room. He really threw it on until we were the only two left. He then laughed when he found out that I was an American and that there was no way that I was going to lose the sauna 'game'. I was in a hotel sauna in Tampere. There was a bachelor party taking most of the space. Then an older guy came in and started throwing water on the stove while askng what kind of ‘men’ were in there with such a cold room. He really threw it on until we were the only two left. He then laughed when he found out that I was an American and that there was no way that I was going to lose the sauna ‘game’.

]]> By: Jim Z http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/05/26/caution-public-saunas-for-experts-only/comment-page-1/#comment-332160 Jim Z Sat, 26 May 2007 20:19:28 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/05/26/caution-public-saunas-for-experts-only/#comment-332160 juha vainio wtf??? who is that guy?..never heard of him before.. (i live in ND) juha vainio wtf??? who is that guy?..never heard of him before.. (i live in ND)

]]> By: Antti rn http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/05/26/caution-public-saunas-for-experts-only/comment-page-1/#comment-332159 Antti rn Sat, 26 May 2007 19:50:37 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/05/26/caution-public-saunas-for-experts-only/#comment-332159 Heh, the same topic has produced letters to the editor also here in Oulu. Those löyly-maniacs used to be mainly old geezers, who probably had all their thermoreceptors frozen in the Winter War. There were these brothers in my old neighbourhood...Their sauna trip turned into löyly-contest and usually the youngest one quit first. Once he threw a whole bucket of water to the stove and after escaping, blocked the door so that the two other guys inside couldn't get out. In the fear of retribution, he didn't open the door until their father came in some half an hour later. Everybody survived, but his brothers were found sitting under the benches. Public saunas are essential part of Helsinki history. In the old days, workers apartments certainly did not have such luxury, they could even share a toilet with a neighbour, but there was a public sauna almost in every quarter. Nowadays they are more or less an extension to the public swimming pools. As a country redneck, my most essential Helsinki-experince was probably taking bath at Arlan Sauna after workshift of driving all those harsh steelbiters back home from Kvaerner shipyards with a 1959 4-axle tram. As Juha Vainio put it: "Yleisessä saunassa olin opissa Enso-Gutzeitin aamuvuoro istui kuumassa kopissa." Heh, the same topic has produced letters to the editor also here in Oulu. Those löyly-maniacs used to be mainly old geezers, who probably had all their thermoreceptors frozen in the Winter War.

There were these brothers in my old neighbourhood…Their sauna trip turned into löyly-contest and usually the youngest one quit first. Once he threw a whole bucket of water to the stove and after escaping, blocked the door so that the two other guys inside couldn’t get out. In the fear of retribution, he didn’t open the door until their father came in some half an hour later. Everybody survived, but his brothers were found sitting under the benches.

Public saunas are essential part of Helsinki history. In the old days, workers apartments certainly did not have such luxury, they could even share a toilet with a neighbour, but there was a public sauna almost in every quarter. Nowadays they are more or less an extension to the public swimming pools.

As a country redneck, my most essential Helsinki-experince was probably taking bath at Arlan Sauna after workshift of driving all those harsh steelbiters back home from Kvaerner shipyards with a 1959 4-axle tram.

As Juha Vainio put it:

“Yleisessä saunassa
olin opissa
Enso-Gutzeitin aamuvuoro istui kuumassa kopissa.”

]]> By: Jim Z http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/05/26/caution-public-saunas-for-experts-only/comment-page-1/#comment-332157 Jim Z Sat, 26 May 2007 18:58:27 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/05/26/caution-public-saunas-for-experts-only/#comment-332157 who needs public saunas??? LOL!!! poor ppl?? who needs public saunas??? LOL!!! poor ppl??

]]> By: A. http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/05/26/caution-public-saunas-for-experts-only/comment-page-1/#comment-332156 A. Sat, 26 May 2007 18:40:19 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/05/26/caution-public-saunas-for-experts-only/#comment-332156 It's a shame Kristian has removed his previous entry about the buses. He was right at least in part, and it started an interesting discussion. Don't remove entries, people... I have seen some before that didn't interest me, some of them written by Kristian, but then I just didn't read them to the end and didn't comment... Not everyone has to like everything, but what has been posted already could just as well stay here, don't you think? I agree that the public transport could and should be a lot better for example in Espoo. Even on the distance of over 20 km, I'm always faster by bike. A few times I had to get off the bus in the middle of the trip because of the stench left by some drunk who hadn't washed in ages and/or didn't bother to take his pants off in the toilet. Also, in the winter, when I had to take the bus to get to work, it happened at least once a week that the bus didn't stop for me when I was the only person waiting at the stop (yes, I did wave, I wore a bright jacket and I'm not that small). I know I'm not the only person who has experienced this. Another thing. I live 2 km from the border with Helsinki. Isn't it crazy that I have to pay 3.50 € (or something like that) for a bus journey lasting less than 10 mins? I usually just try to walk those few stops and take the bus from the first Helsinki stop, but when I don't have enough time, and when I'm going with my husband, of course we'd rather take the car than pay 14 € or so for the round trip. I'm sorry I'm coming back to the obviously sensitive subject. I rarely comment here, or on any blogs, but it's a relevant issue and I was disappointed to see the previous post gone. It’s a shame Kristian has removed his previous entry about the buses. He was right at least in part, and it started an interesting discussion. Don’t remove entries, people… I have seen some before that didn’t interest me, some of them written by Kristian, but then I just didn’t read them to the end and didn’t comment… Not everyone has to like everything, but what has been posted already could just as well stay here, don’t you think?

I agree that the public transport could and should be a lot better for example in Espoo. Even on the distance of over 20 km, I’m always faster by bike. A few times I had to get off the bus in the middle of the trip because of the stench left by some drunk who hadn’t washed in ages and/or didn’t bother to take his pants off in the toilet. Also, in the winter, when I had to take the bus to get to work, it happened at least once a week that the bus didn’t stop for me when I was the only person waiting at the stop (yes, I did wave, I wore a bright jacket and I’m not that small). I know I’m not the only person who has experienced this.

Another thing. I live 2 km from the border with Helsinki. Isn’t it crazy that I have to pay 3.50 € (or something like that) for a bus journey lasting less than 10 mins? I usually just try to walk those few stops and take the bus from the first Helsinki stop, but when I don’t have enough time, and when I’m going with my husband, of course we’d rather take the car than pay 14 € or so for the round trip.

I’m sorry I’m coming back to the obviously sensitive subject. I rarely comment here, or on any blogs, but it’s a relevant issue and I was disappointed to see the previous post gone.

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