Rudy Giuliani vs. Ron Paul - Why U.S. was attacked on 9/11
Thanks to Kenneth over at Tundra Tabloids for this great video clip of the recent Republican Presidential Debate hosted by FOXNEWS. Congressman Ron Paul blames the 9/11 attacks on America’s interventionist foreign policy. Rudy Guliani blasts Paul for it, demands him to retract his statement, yet Paul persists and defends it.
Wow, I am really excited about Ron Paul and the upcoming U.S. Presidential elections. The more I hear from Dr. Paul, the more respect I have for him. The more I hear from Giuliani, the more I realize he’s just another reincarnation of Bush, there’s absolutely no difference between these two (Giuliani was only pretending to be liberal in order to win NYC voters). Anyone who thinks all these Middle Easterners want to harm the U.S. because they’re jealous of our “freedom” is just plain retarded.
Here’s the Paul/Giuliani debate…
Here’s how Rudy Giuliani’s entire campaign will be like… (seriously)
Buu-huu, like fucking the rest of the world already knew that back in 2003. 600 000 Iraqis are DEAD because of your fuck up imbecile.
“Symbolically, a certain sign of the disaster to come in Iraq arrived via an April 26th posting from the courageous but anonymous Sunni woman who has, since August 2003, published the indispensable blog Baghdad Burning. Her family, she reported, was finally giving up and going into exile — joining up to two million of her compatriots who have left the country. In her final dispatch, she wrote:
“There are moments when the injustice of having to leave your country simply because an imbecile got it into his head to invade it, is overwhelming. It is unfair that in order to survive and live normally, we have to leave our home and what remains of family and friends…. And to what?”
So FUCK YOU YANKEES!
Comment by tim73 — Wed, May 16th, 2007 @ 10:07 pm
Military Spending Gets Forty Per Cent of Every Income Tax Dollar
“In 2006, according to the National Priorities Project, current military spending accounted for 27 cents of every income tax dollar paid. Additionally, NPP determined that nine cents of every federal income tax dollar paid today could be attributed to borrowing to pay for past wars and military build-ups. Finally, disability payments, health care and other benefits accrued to veterans made up a little over three cents of the federal income tax dollar, bringing total military spending up to close to 40 cents of every tax dollar”
So Sieg Heil America!
Comment by tim73 — Wed, May 16th, 2007 @ 10:19 pm
liberals ? no thanks. I had enough of the popcorn politics.
I dont give a´rats ass who the next U.S prez. will be…liberal, cons. what ever, it will be a another rich biaaach to dig into the Americans people pockets…global warming ? piss on you Gore.
The next U.S prez will be whom the idiots will vote into office ? oh, as far as U.K ? Please thats another shit hole country that will be imprisoning its own stupid brithish people.
My opinion is, lets im,port more muslims to E.U. They will fix the voting problems for us. Allah hu akrab will be you next words. And youll love what they give you or else.
I vote a muslim for e.u prez as well as U.S prez. Why vote when you can have a muzzie sort us out.
A stupid people need a ruler that will keep them under a rod of iron, like dumb ass sheep.
I vote for whom ever.
Comment by hill billy — Wed, May 16th, 2007 @ 10:25 pm
So FUCK YOU YANKEES!
YEAH!! Fuck you New York Yankees baseball team!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Phil — Wed, May 16th, 2007 @ 10:35 pm
Phil: I tried my best and now you ruined it!
Comment by tim73 — Wed, May 16th, 2007 @ 10:37 pm
Well, anyone serious about libertarianism would find modern Republicans little better bolsheviks. It is scary what this combination of fear mongering, paranoia and populist politics can do to civil liberties. We had to destroy the village to save it….
Comment by mjr — Wed, May 16th, 2007 @ 11:10 pm
Hmm, little better THAN bolsheviks…
Comment by mjr — Wed, May 16th, 2007 @ 11:14 pm
How about giving the Democratic candidates some coverage too? I’d be much more interested in their opinions and debates.
Comment by Passer-by — Wed, May 16th, 2007 @ 11:53 pm
Funny as fuck Clip mate..
You do pick up some trolls back here in the comments dont you…
Comment by Chris — Thu, May 17th, 2007 @ 12:24 am
I like Guliani even less than W.
Despite his ignorant ways, I could see hanging out with W, drinking some beers and snorting a few lines. Allight, maybe that was the younger W, but I’m sure you get the idea. He’d be one of the guys.
In contrast, hanging out with Guliani would be like hanging out with Hitler. It would be novel at first. But ultimately if you drink too many beers, he might let his German Sheppard bite you. He’s more fit to run for NYC precinct councilman than for president.
Ron Paul would be cool. He might not get as wasted as you, but he’d enjoy watching you get wasted—in a medical/clinical sort of way. Most importantly, he wouldn’t be judgmental.
I support Dr. Ron Paul.
Comment by Kristian — Thu, May 17th, 2007 @ 12:59 am
Guliani made it clear that he is seriously deluded. What Ron Paul said was absolutely true. If Guliani seriously has never heard that US foreign policy over the last 50 years has pissed off Muslims he is clearly in no position to lead this country.
A bunch of dumb rednecks agreed with Guliani. Fine. He’ll get the dumb redneck vote. Everyone who listened to what was actually said knows that Ron Paul is speaking the truth.
Comment by John Foster — Thu, May 17th, 2007 @ 1:05 am
He’s in the wrong party if he want s to make ot past the primaries with that. He has a valid point but anyone that thinks he has a snowballs chance in hell in getting that parties nominations is drinking a special kool-aid.
Comment by Kourtney N. Williams — Thu, May 17th, 2007 @ 1:06 am
To be honest I don’t think that nothing will really change whoever is sitting in the whitehouse.
I agree with Dr. Paul about the reasons of the WTC strike. Actually the first thing I said about it was “they had it coming”.
USA has to look at it self and the world and decide what will it want from the future.
Smart bombs are not the anwser.
Ps. I think that US needs two to three new parties wich rival with dems. and reps.
Comment by BlizBob — Thu, May 17th, 2007 @ 1:30 am
Yeah, when Guliani spoke, the crowd’s reaction was kind of worrisome. Like a room full of idiots.
Comment by Kristian — Thu, May 17th, 2007 @ 1:57 am
Yeah and all the other candidates wanted to get in on that comment to because they know their audience. Plus how do you think you are going to win a election by telling the American people hey we brought this on ourselves. Set the war aside because I think anyone can see that has been a complete fuck up. Lets just take 9/11 saying that we brought it on ourselves is just wrong. Did the people of Columbine/Virgina Tech bring that on themselves even if they did make fun of the assailants does a rape victim bring it on her self even if she flirts with her attacker before hand. No because my action do not control your reactions. Was flying a plane full of innocent people into a building with more innocent people make any point besides you hit me I hit you in a endless cycle that will get all of us nowhere beside front row seats to mushroom clouds.
And to anyone that thinks a new American President won’t change anything think of 8 years of Bush could have been with 8 years of Gore. World would be a mighty different place. It matters even if your not Amercian.
Comment by Kourtney N. Williams — Thu, May 17th, 2007 @ 2:18 am
Congressman Ron Paul blames the 9/11 attacks on America’s interventionist foreign policy. Placing the attacks on this is just plain retarded also Phil.
Comment by maksalaatikko — Thu, May 17th, 2007 @ 2:42 am
“think of 8 years of Bush could have been with 8 years of Gore.”
I agree. Gore would have been a GREAT president. I would have preferred a Republican congress though, mainly for its economic stance.
I guess that’s what’s nice about the Libertarian platform. Global non-interventionism coupled with solid economics. All in one package.
Comment by Kristian — Thu, May 17th, 2007 @ 2:43 am
I always think it good to have opposite parties in charge of the White House and Congress, need them checks and balances. But I don’t think cutting funding to things is “solid economics”. I can support non military interventionism but not political I would like something done about the Crisis in Darfur.
Comment by Kourtney N. Williams — Thu, May 17th, 2007 @ 2:54 am
13 >> wrote ..I agree with Dr. Paul about the reasons of the WTC strike. Actually the first thing I said about it was “they had it coming  yeh, much like London bombing, yep they had it coming. Oh lets not forget Madrid, yep. They had it coming. Oh, France ? yep, they had it coming. Or why not add more terrorist bombers to that cake, when they kill you say. Yep they had it coming. When you loved one body get turned into a hamburger, ill remember to say. YEP they had it coming.
ya want a soda with that bomb miss ?
Comment by hill billy — Thu, May 17th, 2007 @ 3:03 am
Ron Paul seems to be a Democrat and he doesn’t even know it. Why is a man who is clearly so sensible standing for the Republican nomination? He can argue his point, unlike Giuliani, who only appealed to the audience’s predictable sympathies, without actually making any point of his own, and has the guts to criticise the current administration on – of all networks – Fox News! Sadly, specifically because of his sound argumentation, he’ll never get the nomination…
Comment by DavidH — Thu, May 17th, 2007 @ 3:15 am
At least there’s one (more) American who has got it right, Dr.Paul. What he says is right to the point. 9/11 was the first attack on American soil and the sole reason for that is that all the other wars have been fought on foreign soil. Who would be jealous of freedom, most of the countries the U.S has been in war with are just as free in their point of view. I’m surprised that FOX would air such an anti-Bush statement
Oh, and well said Kourtney N. Williams. I think a lot of people voted Bush the second time around because of the economical views his party represent. I wonder if these voters think about the money that has been spewn to fund the nonsense war in Iraq and still think the country has gained anything of it. With Gore behind the wheel, there wouldn’t been a war of oil and vengeance nor billions lost to war expenses or casualties for that matter.
And most of the rednecks believe what they see on TV. Like hell they’re going to show “This is how the U.S bombed a city in a foreign country”. They’ll show heroes of the war instead, put a patriotic spin on everything, thus simple people make a decision to support it.
After this, most of the population is thinking “We need to slay them fuckers, an eye for an eye!”, with the politicians craving for votes, agree with the sentiment instead of thinking about the cause and ramifications of actions in U.S foreign policy.
Comment by Keksi — Thu, May 17th, 2007 @ 3:26 am
Paul is definitely the best Republican candidate… anybody with a brain can see that. The rest are just dangerous populists who I would never trust my life with, but may unfortunately have to.
However, the best, freshest candidate would be Michael Bloomberg, mayor of New York (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Bloomberg). Before you call me crazy, hear me out: He doesn’t come from big money, so has middle-class values. He’s a self-made man, now a billionaire, so he wouldn’t have to worry about being a phoney populist fundraiser like all the rest. He’s been on both sides of the aisle, being a Democrat his whole life and then winning the Republican nomination to become Mayor. He could unite the country in such a great way, and he has his head screwed on right too.
Then again, many people’s worst nightmare is a united American people.
Can’t say I blame them, given how we’ve fucked up our foreign policy so badly.
Comment by Anonymous — Thu, May 17th, 2007 @ 3:54 am
“But I don’t think cutting funding to things is “solid economicsâ€Â.”
Generally, as president, Paul would support states’ rights. That includes the right of states to collect taxes and fund their own programs.
I totally agree with that position, because states can operate much more efficiently than the giant federal government—less waste and less chance for corruption. I suppose there’s also a competitive aspect.
Comment by Kristian — Thu, May 17th, 2007 @ 4:06 am
Re: “I totally agree with that position, because states can operate much more efficiently than the giant federal governmentâ€â€less waste and less chance for corruption. I suppose there’s also a competitive aspect.”
ABSOLUTELY! States’ rights would solve so many of America’s problems. You live in Oklahoma? Fine, don’t have your gay marriage. But leave the people in Massachusettes and California to do so if they want. Like your social programs, Rhode Island? Well keep them, and at the same time have Texas be able to go their merry own way. And of course, of course, of course it makes a hell of alot more sense to own a gun in Montana than in New York!
Comment by stercus — Thu, May 17th, 2007 @ 4:38 am
Oh, and by the way, I was the author of #22.
Forgot to put a name.
Comment by stercus — Thu, May 17th, 2007 @ 4:39 am
Yea, lets bash the USA some more. Iran is getting a Nuke, so I suggest you all start digging.
We have no plans to help you.
Can you say, Glow in the dark?
Comment by winter “Against stupidity, the gods themselves are helpless.†— Thu, May 17th, 2007 @ 5:18 am
“Hamas gunmen on Tuesday ambushed rival Fatah forces near a key crossing along the Israeli border, killing eight people in the deadliest battle yet in three days of factional fighting.”
wait, sorry, wrong war.
Does the BBC cover this war? Or is this news to you all?
Comment by winter “Against stupidity, the gods themselves are helpless.†— Thu, May 17th, 2007 @ 5:21 am
Oh, and one thing about Ron Paul that I believe weakens his appeal — While he seems very clear-headed on economic matters (besides his dream of going back to the Gold standard, which I seriously don’t understand), he’s voted to build the fence on the Mexican border. This probably shouldn’t be discussed here, as it doesn’t exactly involve Finland (though if Finland was where Mexico is, wouldn’t the weather be so much better?). Just wanted to put that forth.
Comment by stercus — Thu, May 17th, 2007 @ 5:34 am
“Does the BBC cover this war?” - winturd
Yes, main story yesterday.
Comment by Dave the Slave — Thu, May 17th, 2007 @ 10:29 am
@26
“Yea, lets bash the USA some more. Iran is getting a Nuke, so I suggest you all start digging.
We have no plans to help you.”
Wow, is that a promise? Little nuke here and there is going to be killing less than US has killed in this decade. And why would they launch the nuke? Could it be because of some “world savior” is trying to attack them? Yes, please don’t help. And i know you wouldn’t anyway, you military reject.
Comment by Gad — Thu, May 17th, 2007 @ 11:19 am
Great, a pole done in the UK shows the majority of the EU wants to attack Iran before they get a Nuke.
Bunch of blood thirsty brats in Europe. Go ahead, do it, no USA to spit on when you do it.
Comment by winter “Against stupidity, the gods themselves are helpless.†— Thu, May 17th, 2007 @ 3:02 pm
Great, a pole done in the UK shows the majority of the EU wants to attack Iran before they get a Nuke.
Who’s that? If there’s an expatriate Polish child oracle in the UK who can speak out the European public opinion, do tell us more about it.
Comment by Aapo — Thu, May 17th, 2007 @ 3:19 pm
“some “world savior†is trying to attack them?”
You neighbor plan to attack you. He has said so. What do you do about it?
OH, blame the USA. Well, we are not comming to help. In fact I plan to laugh, and say its all your fault, when it happens.
Comment by winter “Against stupidity, the gods themselves are helpless.†— Thu, May 17th, 2007 @ 4:50 pm
“Does the BBC cover this war?†- winturd
Yes, main story yesterday.
Did they call it a WAR, or just some fighting, blame is on Israel?
Comment by winter “Against stupidity, the gods themselves are helpless.†— Thu, May 17th, 2007 @ 5:02 pm
I did a search of the BBC for War and Gaza.
“At least 20 people have been killed in a fourth day of gun battles in the Gaza Strip between the rival Palestinian factions, Fatah and Hamas. ”
Guess what. The BBC will not call it a WAR.
Its a gun battle. Not a war. Your BBC says so.
Comment by winter “Against stupidity, the gods themselves are helpless.†— Thu, May 17th, 2007 @ 5:05 pm
I must say that I agree with Giuliani that Paul’s statement was quite absurd. The Al-Qaida was originally founded to fight the Saudi Royal family but has since then turned its head more and more towards the US and I think the reason for that is mainly the US’s support for Israel. I think that it would be easier to weaken the radical Islamist groups if the West would have been more united and stood more firmly behind Israel and dealt with slowly growing Islamist groups after the Soviet Union collapsed and there was no real power to challenge the US and Western-Europe. Now, 17 years later, are both Russia and China (and in some cases even India) ready to offer deals and support for dictators and regimes in Middle Eastern countries like Sudan, Syria and Iran.
The only way the US invited Al-Qaida to commit terror deeds on US soil was by not taking care of such groups earlier.
Comment by Mikael — Thu, May 17th, 2007 @ 8:45 pm
“The only way the US invited Al-Qaida to commit terror deeds on US soil was by not taking care of such groups earlier.”
Fantasy.
To Al-Qaida, America’s propping-up the House of Saud is probably equally divisive as its supporting of Israel.
Interventionist foreign policy invited the NYC attacks and quagmire that followed—many decades of such policy.
Comment by Kristian — Thu, May 17th, 2007 @ 10:55 pm
“Interventionist foreign policy invited the NYC attacks ”
so when we did nothing during the Clinton years, they stopped their planning?
Right…..
Comment by winter “Against stupidity, the gods themselves are helpless.†— Fri, May 18th, 2007 @ 7:19 pm
“Interventionist foreign policy invited the NYC attacks and quagmire that followedâ€â€many decades of such policy.”
Radical Islam does behave according to rational thoughts such as this.
Comment by maksalaatikko — Sat, May 19th, 2007 @ 12:52 am
This is a excellent article on Ron Paul’s statement.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/05/18/martin/index.html?eref=rss_topstories
Comment by Kourtney N. Williams — Sat, May 19th, 2007 @ 3:22 am
Oh and for further proof USA isn’t ready for Barack Obama to be president CBS news website has decided to remove comment sections from all stories about Senator Obama due to the fact of too many racists comments being posted.
Comment by Kourtney N. Williams — Sat, May 19th, 2007 @ 3:27 am
“Radical Islam does behave according to rational thoughts such as this.”
so you are saying that Support for Israel, caused the attacks?
Comment by winter “Against stupidity, the gods themselves are helpless.†— Sat, May 19th, 2007 @ 4:12 am
“‘Interventionist foreign policy invited the NYC attacks ‘
so when we did nothing during the Clinton years, they stopped their planning?
Right…..”
Clinton wasn’t non-interventionist. America’s military bases in the Middle East—Saudi Arabia, Yemen and other oil hotspots—existed before- and during Clinton’s presidency.
Comment by Kristian — Sat, May 19th, 2007 @ 6:20 pm
“so you are saying that Support for Israel, caused the attacks?”
No, I’m not saying that at all. People can say it’s because of this reason or because of that reason but the people who executed the attacks are people with no reason. You cannot use reason to explain the behavior of lunatics. Ron Paul does not get this and does not stand a chance of being elected because of it.
If there was a governent behind the attacks, all the rational reasons given for the attacks may be true. But the attack was done by a bunch of religious nut jobs stuck in the middle ages. Osama Bin Ladin and Al Qaida have the same mentality as the local Muslim goatherder who goes and hacks of the heads of his Christian neighbors children. Such behavior cannot be explained with reason.
By the way, my opinion on supporting Israel is that the U.S. should give Isreal all the money and weapons it needs, even if it would bankrupt our country.
Comment by maksalaatikko — Sat, May 19th, 2007 @ 8:12 pm
Whoever ultimately perpetrated 9/11 certainly knew that they did not have the physical firepower to actually jeopardise US economic or military power in any significant way.
The obvious aim of such a high profile atrocity was to provoke an emotion-driven reaction by the United States that would alienate international opinion, and eventually domestic opinion as well.
It appears that the terrorists were very successful in this; the reputation of the United States has been dealt possibly irreprable damage - not by al-Qaeda, but by the Bush regime, with Iran reaping most of the benefits.
Comment by Kimmo W. — Sat, May 19th, 2007 @ 8:55 pm
“attack was done by a bunch of religious nut jobs stuck in the middle ages. ”
Now we get some place. So what is your answer to bring this culture along, or to stop the attacks?
1) Stick head in ground.
2) Say we are sorry
3) Offer surrender? and to who will you surrender to?
4) Change the world a little, and remove their supporters?
Comment by winter (Traveling today) — Sat, May 19th, 2007 @ 9:14 pm
“reputation of the United States has been dealt possibly irreprable damage ”
HUH??? Damage? as seen by the oil-for-food Europe? I think you have a very deep hole to dig out of before we even get to the USA.
Comment by winter (Traveling today) — Sat, May 19th, 2007 @ 9:16 pm
Winter
Time for a reverse frontal lobotomy. I share your opinions. We are of like minds, kindred spirits, identical twin brothers seperated at birth. I’m just not an adherant of the “loud fart” style of debate that you are.
As for religious nut jobs stuck in the middle ages? I think they all should be killed. Does that satisfy you, Winter?
The EU or Europe has done irreprable damage to itself. Over the years they have castrated their own power to the point where they have no influence on anything that is not economic. No one really cares what Europe thinks because they removed their own balls years ago.
Comment by maksalaatikko — Sat, May 19th, 2007 @ 10:32 pm
#47 “I think you have a very deep hole to dig out of…”
That’s right! We Europeans were deluded by a mentally challenged leader to go into a war that was supposed to be a cakewalk and ended up getting our military stuck and overstretched and depleted while alienating our population while bostering a hostile neighbor.
No wait! That wasn’t us, that was you!
Comment by Kimmo W. — Sat, May 19th, 2007 @ 10:41 pm
#48 “As for religious nut jobs stuck in the middle ages? I think they all should be killed.”
So Mr. Liver Casserole is a terrorist advocating the assassination of President Bush!
Comment by Kimmo W. — Sat, May 19th, 2007 @ 10:42 pm
I still don’t get it why, after 600 years of colonialism Europe should project anything but economic power beyond its own borders. A nice demonstration BTW, how far you get by forcing those benighted natives into listening mode, even if you had all the time in the world. Some still run around naked.
I think the last time we (i.e. certain current EU member states) tried was the Suez crisis, but some pres. Eisenhower told us to back off and quit colonialism or face the economic sanctions. I pay taxes to my government for minding mainly the operation environment of the finnish people, instead of engineering lives of some far-away people, unable to place Finland on a map.
…
Bon Voyage, M. Hiver
Comment by Antti rn — Sun, May 20th, 2007 @ 12:02 am
“I pay taxes to my government for minding mainly the operation environment of the finnish people, instead of engineering lives of some far-away people, unable to place Finland on a map.”
and very happy that the UN does not call on me to go to Darfur.
Great calling card guys, If thats your point, then quite back stabbing those who actually care about the world.
Comment by winter “Against stupidity, the gods themselves are helpless.†— Sun, May 20th, 2007 @ 5:24 am
“Palestinian factions clinched a new ceasefire deal on Saturday to end a week of violence that has left more than 50 dead ”
and its not a war………
Comment by winter “Against stupidity, the gods themselves are helpless.†— Sun, May 20th, 2007 @ 4:24 pm
“I pay taxes to my government for minding mainly the operation environment of the finnish people, instead of engineering lives of some far-away people, unable to place Finland on a map.”
Explain to me why there is Finnish troops in Afganistan and Lebanon? Maybe the the were able to identify Finland on the map!!
“That’s right! We Europeans were deluded by a mentally challenged leader to go into a war that was supposed to be a cakewalk and ended up getting our military stuck and overstretched and depleted while alienating our population while bostering a hostile neighbor.”
This is not the argument.
By the way it’s liver box, not liver casserole.
Comment by maksalaatikko — Sun, May 20th, 2007 @ 8:00 pm
Explain to me why there is Finnish troops in Afganistan and Lebanon?
Super. Can you show me photo’s of some captured weapons?
Comment by winter “Against stupidity, the gods themselves are helpless.†— Mon, May 21st, 2007 @ 2:00 am
Note about the fate of my tax money was a statement of wish rather than a statement of fact.
Participation in Afghanistan and Lebanon are results of the UN memberhip and NATO co-operation. If one hangs around there, one must also contribute something. Finns do mainly boring stuff (to winter at least), such as reconstructing basic infrastructure etc. Not that it would more fruitful compared to the traditional head-banging, if the locals are unwilling to pick themselves up.
Comment by Antti rn — Mon, May 21st, 2007 @ 1:26 pm
“Participation in Afghanistan and Lebanon are results of the UN memberhip and NATO co-operation.”
“I still don’t get it why, after 600 years of colonialism Europe should project anything but economic power beyond its own borders.”
“I pay taxes to my government for minding mainly the operation environment of the finnish people, instead of engineering lives of some far-away people, unable to place Finland on a map.”
You are contradicting yourself all over the place. If influence beyond borders should ONLY be economic, why are you okay with Finland being in the U.N., cooperating with NATO, sending troops and engineers to Lebanon and Afghanistan? These are well beyond economics.
Comment by maksalaatikko — Mon, May 21st, 2007 @ 8:27 pm
I just pointed out the participation in the UN and the NATO cooperation requires also participation in the mentioned operations. I was asked to explain, why there are Finnish troops in Afghanistan and Lebanon. Well, that’s the explanation. Does it solve any problems there? I doubt it. Some kid may get his school back for some time, but everything slips back to business as usual, if the locals are not willing to pick themselves up.
Apart from not going to the jail, my motivation to pay taxes is to have decent surroundings here. Obviously, there is also something less motivating coming with the package. That kid getting back to school is acceptable, but adventurism and “progress” by gunpoint is not.
Comment by Antti rn — Mon, May 21st, 2007 @ 10:53 pm
“Finns do mainly boring stuff (to winter at least), such as reconstructing basic infrastructure etc. ”
Then if you are not doing the heavy lifting, you should shut up, unless you have plans to help fix the bigger messes out there in the world.
Like Darfur. If you can not change the world, due to your current economic depressed melfare state, then untill you fix that welfare state, you have no say in other systems being fixed by the USA.
Comment by winter “Against stupidity, the gods themselves are helpless.†— Tue, May 22nd, 2007 @ 12:36 am
Jesus Christ why don’t you moderate this braindead bullshit Phil?
Comment by m — Tue, May 22nd, 2007 @ 10:59 am
Why should stupidity and ignorance be moderated? I’d rather let them flourish unhindered as a warning example. This is your brain on Faux Noose.
Comment by Freeridin' Franklin — Tue, May 22nd, 2007 @ 12:07 pm
Oh come on, why the heavy lifting should be a government paid freebie to someone. Let them do their own heavy lifting. They may even have a clue, where the hydraulic jack should be placed.
Comment by Antti rn — Tue, May 22nd, 2007 @ 3:27 pm
“why don’t you moderate this braindead bullshit Phil?”
yep until the blogs came along we all just had the BBC. The world was perfect when no one showed us our flaws.
Now we have to hear about our oil scams, our so called help to thugs and killers, and our zero impact on world life.
Al because we don’t care.
Comment by winter “Against stupidity, the gods themselves are helpless.†— Wed, May 23rd, 2007 @ 1:47 am
I think David Cross said it best: “I don’t think Osama bin Laden sent those planes to attack us because he hated our freedom. I think he did it because of our support for Israel, our ties with the Saudi family and our military bases in Saudi Arabia. You know why I think that? Because that’s what he fucking said! Are we a nation of 6-year-olds? Answer: yes.”
Comment by Haider — Wed, May 23rd, 2007 @ 1:07 pm
“I don’t think Osama bin Laden sent those planes to attack us because he hated our freedom. I think he did it because of our support for Israel, our ties with the Saudi family and our military bases in Saudi Arabia. You know why I think that? Because that’s what he fucking said! Are we a nation of 6-year-olds?”
I spend my nights eating shit and barking at the moon.
I said it so it must be true.
Let see we’ve got bases all over the world, we support countries all over the world, and we’ve got ties with governments (good and bad) all over the world.
But not one German, Japanese, Korean, non-muslim Brit, etc. has attempted a suicide mission on the U.S. Why? Because they are not religious, nut job, zealots, stuck in the middle ages.
Osama says what he says because he knows their are the David Crosses of the world who are looking for rational excuses to pin the blame on the U.S. If Osama was to say “I did it because I’m nuttier than a squirrels winter horde, the whole world would be %100 against him.” Osama is crazy, not dumb.
Comment by maksalaatikko — Thu, May 24th, 2007 @ 10:29 pm
“Osama is crazy, not dumb”
He was certainly smart enough to put out a video just before the ‘04 election ostensibly calling on Americans to vote against Bush, which just may have actually pushed the election in his favor - just as he intended.
It is the Bush administration’s reactions to al-Qaeda’s actions that have done far more harm to US interests than the actions themselves ever could have.
Comment by Kimmo W. — Fri, May 25th, 2007 @ 2:32 pm
Paul’s follow up is pretty hilarious…you can watch this clip of him suggesting some “reading” for Mayor Giuliani: http://thenewsroom.com/details/338681/Campaign+2008?c_id=tvo
Comment by John — Sun, May 27th, 2007 @ 3:05 am
winter: “Al because we don’t care.”
Who’s Al?
Comment by Kristian — Sun, May 27th, 2007 @ 4:02 am
So Mr Liverbox…
Would it be more rational to say that Mr Osama sent those planes into the WTC towers because he “hated freedom”…
Another little quote by david cross, probably not 100% accurate…
“If the terrorists hated freedom, the Netherlands would be fucking dust.”
I know it seems like I got no brain at all, just using quotes to argue, but:
“Derek says it’s always good to end a paper with a quote. He says someone else has already said it best. So if you can’t top it, steal from them and go out strong.” - Danny Vinyard
Comment by Haider — Tue, May 29th, 2007 @ 9:16 am
TELL ME HIS DAMN VIEWS ON AIDS AND DARFUR AND THE GENOCIDE!!!!
Comment by ur face! — Wed, Jun 13th, 2007 @ 6:28 am