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1.2.2007

Any musician should be legally allowed to rip-off any musician

Tags: Uncategorized — Author: @ 11:04 am

A couple cases of musical plagiarism in the Finnish media lately, both are “David vs. Goliath” situations. First we have superstar Timbaland ripping off a song by demo artist Janne Suni AKA Tempest. Then we have Finnish singer Katra and producer Risto Asikainen accused of ripping off the song “Jillian” by superstar Dutch metal band Within Temptation.

In the first scenario a wealthy superstar rips off the little-known artist and nothing happens – the wealthy superstar can rip-off whatever he wants, the little-known artist doesn’t have the money to fight the case. In the second scenario the tables are turned, the little-known artist gets accused of ripping off the wealthy superstar – an “expert panel” is quickly formed to see if it’s plagiarism, and as it turns out, it’s not.

So here’s how the current copyright/plagiarism legislation seems to work – Goliath can rip off David anytime he wants without any repercussions. But if Goliath even *thinks* that David is ripping him off, a serious investigation ensues.

So here’s my suggestion – Any musician should be legally allowed to rip-off any musician, leave it up to the internet to discover these plagiarisms then publicly ostracize the true thief. Cause at the moment, the wealthy superstar can plagiarize, but the poor-nobody can’t. So this would simply level the playing field and allow everyone to do it.

  • truth

    Katra’s drummer was in the “expert panel.”

  • FinnFreak

    Hih. Hilarious. Not only is justice blind, but it’s deaf too. ;)

  • RAVE THE DAVE

    Within Temptation are “wealthy superstars?”

    :-D

  • Antti (the redneck one)

    “…but it’s deaf too.”

    And what it would be, if Katra’s bass player was also in the panel…

  • gopha

    In the Katra/WT case, it was everyone who wasn’t WT who was bitching. Horrible example.

  • http://stockholmslender.blogspot.com/ mjr

    Dear me, Phil – you are such a Bolshevik when it comes to intellectual property. I wouldn’t trust this society to your greedy, expropriationist hands!

  • http://kervo.blogspot.com/ kervÃ¥

    “an “expert panel” is quickly formed to see if it’s plagiarism, and as it turns out, it’s not.”

    That panel was there only to decide if the song was going to continue in the race. Of course they had to say it’s not a copy. That was to be expected.

    The plagiarism case would only be solved if the composer of Jillian sued Asikainen. And I would love to see that.

  • FinnFreak

    As I’ve mentioned elsewhere:

    “Carl Orff (Carmina Burana) influences” my ass..! :-P

  • Anonymous

    In true welfare state government should pay your legal costs also abroad if you can’t afford them. It’s strange situation in the globalizing world when people can break your right from other side of the border and there is noting you can do.

  • Freeridin’ Franklin

    Phil,

    Since you don’t seem to be a great fan of the concept of intellectual property, do you think it’s OK to rip off Nokia’s specs and manufacture cheapo clones of their products?

  • Kristian (in Espoo)

    Phil—

    I don’t mean to be picky, but unless he’s actually been found guilty, your second sentence might be considered defamation, legally speaking. You probably have to say “In my opinion…” or “Allegedly….” to avoid making an assertion. We can’t actually prove that he ripped it off.

    With that said, Timbanigga betta give it back! :lol:

  • anon

    It is rip off. Even if you are not rich enough to prove it in court.

    in-depth articles
    Chris Abbott (C64Audio.com)
    http://www.c64audio.com/timbaland.php
    eDome (fi+en)
    http://plaza.fi/harrastukset/edome/artikkelit/yleiset/yhdysvaltalaistuottaja-polli-suomalaismuusikolta

  • Anonymous

    Finally feedback (and confession) from Timbaland:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTvY3wZrHrQ

    Timbaland Question (parody of the interview):
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr6OPnWgywU

    Better comparison of the songs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2JjPFd7Jr8

  • Anonymous

    If you are a fan of chip-music and rap scene you might want give try for this:
    01_Dubmood_&_Zabutom-Grandmaster_Flash_&_The_Furious_Five_-_The_Message_(chiphop_mix).mp3

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