Comments on: Plagiarism at Finnish Eurovision? http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/31/plagiarism-at-finnish-eurovision/ Politics, current events, culture - From Finland & United States Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:21:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: oxhatsypww http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/31/plagiarism-at-finnish-eurovision/#comment-334165 oxhatsypww Tue, 03 Jul 2007 15:44:16 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/31/plagiarism-at-finnish-eurovision/#comment-334165 Hello! Good Site! Thanks you! bbergwpycqahbq Hello! Good Site! Thanks you! bbergwpycqahbq

]]> By: Lise Folami http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/31/plagiarism-at-finnish-eurovision/#comment-331760 Lise Folami Sat, 19 May 2007 13:10:20 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/31/plagiarism-at-finnish-eurovision/#comment-331760 Da delo dazhe ne v goda. Lise Folami. Da delo dazhe ne v goda. Lise Folami.

]]> By: Pasholli http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/31/plagiarism-at-finnish-eurovision/#comment-331317 Pasholli Mon, 14 May 2007 00:15:30 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/31/plagiarism-at-finnish-eurovision/#comment-331317 This one deserves attention too. Is Serbia's Song Stolen? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn0WAvFh9GQ This one deserves attention too.

Is Serbia’s Song Stolen?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn0WAvFh9GQ

]]> By: Itzal Jonie http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/31/plagiarism-at-finnish-eurovision/#comment-331044 Itzal Jonie Wed, 09 May 2007 22:45:37 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/31/plagiarism-at-finnish-eurovision/#comment-331044 Udacha ty menja ne pokidaes. Itzal Jonie. Udacha ty menja ne pokidaes. Itzal Jonie.

]]> By: Delilah Anantha http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/31/plagiarism-at-finnish-eurovision/#comment-330429 Delilah Anantha Tue, 01 May 2007 16:22:58 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/31/plagiarism-at-finnish-eurovision/#comment-330429 Vse promolchat nikto ne skazhe. Delilah Anantha. Vse promolchat nikto ne skazhe. Delilah Anantha.

]]> By: Anne http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/31/plagiarism-at-finnish-eurovision/#comment-307555 Anne Sat, 24 Feb 2007 09:19:37 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/31/plagiarism-at-finnish-eurovision/#comment-307555 Yeah, indeed. The song is a copy of Within Temptation, they are exactly the same. And no, they didn't copy, because there is no song that's actually the same. It IS influenced by Carl Orff, though... The demo of Jillian was called 'Orff'. But it's still not the same! Yeah, indeed.
The song is a copy of Within Temptation, they are exactly the same. And no, they didn’t copy, because there is no song that’s actually the same. It IS influenced by Carl Orff, though… The demo of Jillian was called ‘Orff’. But it’s still not the same!

]]> By: FinnFreak http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/31/plagiarism-at-finnish-eurovision/#comment-291465 FinnFreak Thu, 01 Feb 2007 09:03:00 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/31/plagiarism-at-finnish-eurovision/#comment-291465 "Carl Orff (Carmina Burana) influences" my ass. :-P “Carl Orff (Carmina Burana) influences” my ass. :-P

]]> By: majava http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/31/plagiarism-at-finnish-eurovision/#comment-291438 majava Thu, 01 Feb 2007 08:23:16 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/31/plagiarism-at-finnish-eurovision/#comment-291438 Katra's song is a rip-off and I wonder if she will hear from Within Temptation soon. Or they might think that she sucks so big time that it would be wasted time and energy... Katra’s song is a rip-off and I wonder if she will hear from Within Temptation soon.

Or they might think that she sucks so big time that it would be wasted time and energy…

]]> By: Blah http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/31/plagiarism-at-finnish-eurovision/#comment-290497 Blah Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:19:04 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/31/plagiarism-at-finnish-eurovision/#comment-290497 #10 :) #10

:)

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/31/plagiarism-at-finnish-eurovision/#comment-290470 Anonymous Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:06:28 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/31/plagiarism-at-finnish-eurovision/#comment-290470 About the Timbaland vs Tempest case you blogged earlier. That is a clear case of plagiarism. Now it has been reported all over: MTV, Rolling Stone, etc and no answer from mr. Timbaland, his representatives or record label. How long does it take to Timbaland give some kind of response or is his tactic to keep silent until everybody forget it. Justice system in works if you are rich enough you can claim whom ever work as your own. About the Timbaland vs Tempest case you blogged earlier. That is a clear case of plagiarism. Now it has been reported all over: MTV, Rolling Stone, etc and no answer from mr. Timbaland, his representatives or record label. How long does it take to Timbaland give some kind of response or is his tactic to keep silent until everybody forget it.

Justice system in works if you are rich enough you can claim whom ever work as your own.

]]> By: samwyse http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/31/plagiarism-at-finnish-eurovision/#comment-290461 samwyse Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:03:30 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/31/plagiarism-at-finnish-eurovision/#comment-290461 They're in deeper trouble (in Finnish): http://lehti.samizdat.info/2007/01/30/1888/ They’re in deeper trouble (in Finnish): http://lehti.samizdat.info/2007/01/30/1888/

]]> By: Kai http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/31/plagiarism-at-finnish-eurovision/#comment-290386 Kai Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:46:18 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/31/plagiarism-at-finnish-eurovision/#comment-290386 Gopha man, listen to the two songs...you'll see what I mean...don't even try to defend Lordi as anything nearly original... Gopha man,

listen to the two songs…you’ll see what I mean…don’t even try to defend Lordi as anything nearly original…

]]> By: DAVE THE RAVE http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/31/plagiarism-at-finnish-eurovision/#comment-290321 DAVE THE RAVE Wed, 31 Jan 2007 12:13:23 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/31/plagiarism-at-finnish-eurovision/#comment-290321 I am a musician. The two songs sound very much alike. Both in the same key, both with very similar passages. Who was the dork who determined it was not plagiarism? It takes courts and music experts hours and hours of testimony to determine if songs are plagiarized. In terms of most copyright law, songs that use "significant" amounts of the same tune/melody that make up the "hook" of the song are usually found to be copies. In this day and age of musicians being sued for millions for using tiny seconds of song bits (like a tiny drum loop or a guitar riff) in samples... Why WOULDN'T this song be considered a copycat? I suppose Finnish musicians face the same scrutiny as Finnish politicians... "No corruption here, folks!" And a shitty song/singer to boot. Ugh. I am a musician.

The two songs sound very much alike. Both in the same key, both with very similar passages.

Who was the dork who determined it was not plagiarism? It takes courts and music experts hours and hours of testimony to determine if songs are plagiarized.

In terms of most copyright law, songs that use “significant” amounts of the same tune/melody that make up the “hook” of the song are usually found to be copies.

In this day and age of musicians being sued for millions for using tiny seconds of song bits (like a tiny drum loop or a guitar riff) in samples… Why WOULDN’T this song be considered a copycat?

I suppose Finnish musicians face the same scrutiny as Finnish politicians… “No corruption here, folks!”

And a shitty song/singer to boot.

Ugh.

]]> By: gopha http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/31/plagiarism-at-finnish-eurovision/#comment-290309 gopha Wed, 31 Jan 2007 12:04:15 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/31/plagiarism-at-finnish-eurovision/#comment-290309 <i>That Katra is absolutely horrible.</i> Yeah she was horrible. The whole song sounded like a bad high school garage band trying to play "Jillian". This wasn't plagiarism but it came very close. I, personally, am not screaming about this because I believe "Jillian" is based off of an Orff piece. Asikainen mentions this piece as his inspiration but he's full of shit. He gets off on a free pass. What's bad about this is that fact that they are still going to play this song. <i>Lordi’s song last year was a total rip from Alice Cooper’s “Poison”</i> Sure, like Celine Dion's "Power Of Love" is a rip of Metallica's "Fade To Black". Tool... That Katra is absolutely horrible.

Yeah she was horrible. The whole song sounded like a bad high school garage band trying to play “Jillian”.

This wasn’t plagiarism but it came very close. I, personally, am not screaming about this because I believe “Jillian” is based off of an Orff piece. Asikainen mentions this piece as his inspiration but he’s full of shit. He gets off on a free pass.

What’s bad about this is that fact that they are still going to play this song.

Lordi’s song last year was a total rip from Alice Cooper’s “Poison”

Sure, like Celine Dion’s “Power Of Love” is a rip of Metallica’s “Fade To Black”. Tool…

]]> By: Kai http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/31/plagiarism-at-finnish-eurovision/#comment-290278 Kai Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:34:12 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/31/plagiarism-at-finnish-eurovision/#comment-290278 Lordi's song last year was a total rip from Alice Cooper's "Poison"....Lordi and Eurovision as a whole give me the same feeling as chewing on foil.... Lordi’s song last year was a total rip from Alice Cooper’s “Poison”….Lordi and Eurovision as a whole give me the same feeling as chewing on foil….

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