Timbaland rips off song from Finnish musician?
Does Producer Timbaland rip off a song from Finnish musician Janne Suni..?
Here’s more info from pHinnWeb…
It is now claimed that Janne Suni a.k.a. Tempest a.k.a. Damage, a Finnish demoscene musician/graphic artist (who has also done cover art for Jyväskylä’s Rikos Records), has had ‘Acid Jazzed Evening’, one of his tracks, blatantly ripped by the well-known hip-hop/R&B producer Timbaland on Nelly Furtado’s song ‘Do It’ for her album Loose.
The said track is from a Commodore 64 conversion of an Amiga .mod file made by the Finnish demoscener Janne Suni. The track was entered into a music competition at Assembly 2000, a demo party held in Helsinki, Finland in the year 2000. Tempest’s entry ‘Acid Jazzed Evening’, a 4-channel Amiga .mod won first place in the “Oldskool Music” competition. According to Scene.org the song was uploaded to their servers in 2000, long before the release of the song by Furtado. A video which claims to show proof of the theft was posted to YouTube on January 12, 2007. It’s yet unknown whether Janne Suni will ever be able take the case to the court, the prospects of winning a court case against a major record label-backed international celebrity artist being very slight; not to talk about any astronomical expenses involved in losing a case like that.
Hat Tip to Giac for the link!
…and where do Finns go to get compensation for the Swedes claiming to the whole world that the sauna is theirs..? grrr… it’s called “bastu” in Swedish…
Comment by FinnFreak — Wed, Jan 17th, 2007 @ 4:06 pm
Luckily it’s crappy music.
Comment by m — Wed, Jan 17th, 2007 @ 4:12 pm
Some of the catchiest melodies ever came from my Commodore 64. Anybody remember the theme music to “The Last Ninja”?
Jimmy Tamborello (AKA James Figurine AKA Figurine AKA Dntel AKA The Postal Serivce) samples alot of C64 sounds and uses them for songs. Good stuff!!
Comment by Phil — Wed, Jan 17th, 2007 @ 4:19 pm
Ever heard of the Swedish band Machinae Supremacy? “Self-defined as SID Metal, they usually use a SidStation that features the SID chip of the Commodore 64.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machinae_Supremacy
Comment by Pave — Wed, Jan 17th, 2007 @ 4:31 pm
Post with details of the rippage from Tempest:
http://digg.com/music/Timbaland_ripped_off_a_track_from_my_buddy#c4713693
http://digg.com/music/Timbaland_ripped_off_a_track_from_my_buddy#c4718195
And GRG:
http://digg.com/music/Timbaland_ripped_off_a_track_from_my_buddy#c4746723
Comment by samwyse — Wed, Jan 17th, 2007 @ 4:35 pm
http://www.pelulamu.net/timbaland/
Comment by Anonymous — Wed, Jan 17th, 2007 @ 9:42 pm
There is no need for question mark in topic. Timbaland is selling Tempest’s tune as his own. Evidence is clear.
Comment by abmit — Wed, Jan 17th, 2007 @ 9:56 pm
buuhuu
Comment by mmhy — Wed, Jan 17th, 2007 @ 10:08 pm
It’s not “A.K.A. Damage”. Damage was the name of the demogroup Tempest was in at that time.
Comment by yrvö alppo — Wed, Jan 17th, 2007 @ 10:16 pm
It’s yet unknown whether Janne Suni will ever be able take the case to the court, the prospects of winning a court case against a major record label-backed international celebrity artist being very slight; not to talk about any astronomical expenses involved in losing a case like that.
The Free Market REIGNS! Yeah!
I’ll leave it to Phil to figure out how the welfare state is behind this.
Comment by Freeridin' Franklin — Wed, Jan 17th, 2007 @ 11:10 pm
This was on digg 2 weeks ago….
Did the BBC not cover it for you?
Comment by winter — Thu, Jan 18th, 2007 @ 12:47 am
The Free Market REIGNS! Yeah!
Well I’m not sure how this would be different in a stricter market, ripping off someone else’s music has nothing to do with political ideology.
But anyways – I love house & trance music, and in this genre there’s lots of remixing, sampling, and basically ripping off of other music, and I seriously doubt many of them have permission. But the difference is, it’s usually some broke guy ripping off the music, often from another broke guy. None of these house & trance musicians are real superstars, and none of these guys make much money at all if they rip off a song.
Comment by Phil — Thu, Jan 18th, 2007 @ 10:50 am
What’s the problem here Phil? It’s just intellectual property. But if Timbaland had stolen berries or mushrooms from the Finnish musicians then we would have a court case for sure…
Comment by Jormanen — Thu, Jan 18th, 2007 @ 10:53 am
Berries and mushrooms aren’t intellectual property.
Comment by Phil — Thu, Jan 18th, 2007 @ 12:33 pm
As songs are just intellectual property, and there is an infinite amount of copies of the Tempest’s songs still available, so there’s really no damage done, is there?
Or are you perhaps suggesting some intellectual property rights more important than others?
Comment by Jormanen — Thu, Jan 18th, 2007 @ 1:01 pm
As songs are just intellectual property, and there is an infinite amount of copies of the Tempest’s songs still available, so there’s really no damage done, is there?
There was an artist a couple years ago, “Mighty Mouse” or something, he remixed The Beatles with Jay-Z in an album called “The Grey Album”. I don’t believe The Beatles nor Jay-Z received any royalties. Of course, he at least made it known that it was Jay-Z and The Beatles whom he was remixing. If he would have had paid royalities, the album would never had been made, cause he’d probably never be able to afford it or get permission in the first place.
So, I don’t have a problem with remixing, I’m not sure Tempest should receive any $$ for this. I think this public outcry and ostracizing that we’re seeing is a good way to handle the situation.
Comment by Phil — Thu, Jan 18th, 2007 @ 2:17 pm
Well I’m not sure how this would be different in a stricter market, ripping off someone else’s music has nothing to do with political ideology.
Actually, the practice of stealing another person’s IP is very socialist. Claiming the stolen work as your own and charging big $$$ for it, as well as employing an army of lawyers to make sure that the other guy has a snowball’s chance in hell of winning a lawsuit is very capitalist.
Only artists endorsed by the music industry oligopoly should be making money from music. This is in line with libertarian ideals.
Comment by Freeridin' Franklin — Sat, Jan 20th, 2007 @ 12:31 am
“I’m not sure Tempest should receive any $$ for this.”
That is pretty dumb to say. What if I took some Timbalands song 1:1, add new vocals/whatever add sold it as mine? They would sue in a day. There is copyright laws for a reason.
Comment by K — Sat, Jan 20th, 2007 @ 8:57 pm
There’s nothing wrong with borrowing other peoples music and remixing them as long as you acknowledge their contribution and give them credit for it. Stealing other peoples work and presenting it as your own is not remixing.
Comment by Åboy — Tue, Jan 23rd, 2007 @ 11:34 am
No what did they expect from an american? aren’t all americans hypocritical lying capitalist thieves?
Comment by Anonymous — Thu, Jan 25th, 2007 @ 7:12 pm
Nedolgo tolko zhili byl. Maribel Matty.
Comment by Maribel Matty — Tue, May 1st, 2007 @ 7:23 pm
Kogda nastanut holoda i belaja doroga ljazhe. Kodey Kata.
Comment by Kodey Kata — Thu, May 10th, 2007 @ 1:45 am
YO SHUT THE FUCK UP HE DIDNT COPY ANYHING HE CHANGED IT UP. YOU JUST JELUOS OF HHIS BEATS!!!!
Comment by max — Wed, May 16th, 2007 @ 3:00 am
What do you expect from a remixer? They haven’t the talent to write music themselves so they just steal it from others. Good luck to all involved and take Timbaland to the cleaners.
Timbaland is a talentless looser who deserves to be stung big time for this!
Comment by CBM Fan — Fri, Nov 23rd, 2007 @ 1:11 pm
YO U GUYZ AINT GOT SHIT ON TIMBA YOU ALL JUST JELUOS!!!!!! FUCK SUNI FAGGOT!!!!
Comment by max — Fri, Dec 4th, 2009 @ 2:19 am