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		<title>By: Cabbrenny</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/16/fazer-to-change-racist-mascot/comment-page-3/#comment-376401</link>
		<dc:creator>Cabbrenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Haiska Vittu</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/16/fazer-to-change-racist-mascot/comment-page-3/#comment-369941</link>
		<dc:creator>Haiska Vittu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry, I was a little distracted when i wrote that last comment.  i meant to write in the second paragraph:  &quot;then the black man should get in as much trouble for saying things against the white man.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry, I was a little distracted when i wrote that last comment.  i meant to write in the second paragraph:  &#8220;then the black man should get in as much trouble for saying things against the white man.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Haiska Vittu</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/16/fazer-to-change-racist-mascot/comment-page-3/#comment-369940</link>
		<dc:creator>Haiska Vittu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My 10 cents worth:

I believe if you are going to make a stand against racism it has to be based on equality.  After all; all men are created equal.

if the white man is going to get into trouble for saying bad things about the black man, then the black man should get in as much trouble for saying things against the black man.  otherwise what you are really saying is that &quot;black people don&#039;t know any better&quot; and &quot;the white man is strong enough to take it&quot;.

So yes i do believe a bar of white chocolate with a white man or womans face on it would be racist and worthy of prosecution just the same as liquorish with a black man or womans face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My 10 cents worth:</p>
<p>I believe if you are going to make a stand against racism it has to be based on equality.  After all; all men are created equal.</p>
<p>if the white man is going to get into trouble for saying bad things about the black man, then the black man should get in as much trouble for saying things against the black man.  otherwise what you are really saying is that &#8220;black people don&#8217;t know any better&#8221; and &#8220;the white man is strong enough to take it&#8221;.</p>
<p>So yes i do believe a bar of white chocolate with a white man or womans face on it would be racist and worthy of prosecution just the same as liquorish with a black man or womans face.</p>
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		<dc:creator>bukkake movie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 12:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not much on my mind lately, but that&#8217;s how it is. My life&#8217;s been dull these days, but such is life. I haven&#8217;t been up to much recently.</p>
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		<dc:creator>sears life insurance company unum life insurance company of america</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 10:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tapio , espoo</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/16/fazer-to-change-racist-mascot/comment-page-3/#comment-358780</link>
		<dc:creator>tapio , espoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 10:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The wrap paper is not a big deal as such. Finland has never had a racist murder not lynching which took place in USA even late 60Ã‚Â´s and in several countries even today. sweden has even recently annd they are as double faced that americans. 
I wonder why USA has the highest number of people in jail , usually humilated by guards , most of prisoners are black. This highes number by per centage in the world, Free democacy? 

The real danger is that if we allow muslims and other stone age thinkers float in their values and skip our own because of fake equal opportunity. Soon weÃ‚Â´ll have the sharia law and pork banned and bible thrown into gutter because these bandana heads need to be accepted. As everybody knows, those people do not tolare anything , but our politicians are so fucking afraid of criticism that soon we are in deep shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The wrap paper is not a big deal as such. Finland has never had a racist murder not lynching which took place in USA even late 60Ã‚Â´s and in several countries even today. sweden has even recently annd they are as double faced that americans.<br />
I wonder why USA has the highest number of people in jail , usually humilated by guards , most of prisoners are black. This highes number by per centage in the world, Free democacy? </p>
<p>The real danger is that if we allow muslims and other stone age thinkers float in their values and skip our own because of fake equal opportunity. Soon weÃ‚Â´ll have the sharia law and pork banned and bible thrown into gutter because these bandana heads need to be accepted. As everybody knows, those people do not tolare anything , but our politicians are so fucking afraid of criticism that soon we are in deep shit.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Halonen</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/16/fazer-to-change-racist-mascot/comment-page-3/#comment-355796</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Halonen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great comments, hbf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comments, hbf.</p>
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		<title>By: JG</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/16/fazer-to-change-racist-mascot/comment-page-3/#comment-291692</link>
		<dc:creator>JG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 14:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luckily the vast majority seem to have common sense. Before the poll was removed on this site, the number of people realising it is not racist was very highly majority.

Also, our politicians seem to also have common sense. So far, in the interviews of party leaders on Obs, all that I have seen (including Sfp/Rkp, Green and Christian Democrat leaders) have all answered &quot;no&quot; it is not racist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luckily the vast majority seem to have common sense. Before the poll was removed on this site, the number of people realising it is not racist was very highly majority.</p>
<p>Also, our politicians seem to also have common sense. So far, in the interviews of party leaders on Obs, all that I have seen (including Sfp/Rkp, Green and Christian Democrat leaders) have all answered &#8220;no&#8221; it is not racist.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikko Ellilä</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/16/fazer-to-change-racist-mascot/comment-page-3/#comment-287776</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikko Ellilä</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amerikkalaiset ovat idiootteja, MOT. Amerikkalaiset tulevat tänne kertomaan ikään kuin jonain uutena tietona meille, että Amerikassa on joskus sata vuotta sitten ollut kenkävahaneekereitä; tämä on sitten olevinaan joku argumentti sen puolesta, että Fazerin lakupekka pitäisi kieltää Suomessa nykyään. Ãƒâ€žly hoi, älä jätä. 

Oikeesti, nämä vitun idiootit pitäisi lähettää ensimmäisellä koneella takaisin Jenkkilään. He eivät tajua Euroopasta yhtään mitään eivätkä haluakaan tajuta. He oikeasti luulevat voivansa käyttää sadan vuoden takaisia amerikkalaisia kenkävahaneekereitä jonain argumenttina Fazerin lakua vastaan. Kuinka kukaan voi olla noin vitun tyhmä?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amerikkalaiset ovat idiootteja, MOT. Amerikkalaiset tulevat tänne kertomaan ikään kuin jonain uutena tietona meille, että Amerikassa on joskus sata vuotta sitten ollut kenkävahaneekereitä; tämä on sitten olevinaan joku argumentti sen puolesta, että Fazerin lakupekka pitäisi kieltää Suomessa nykyään. Ãƒâ€žly hoi, älä jätä. </p>
<p>Oikeesti, nämä vitun idiootit pitäisi lähettää ensimmäisellä koneella takaisin Jenkkilään. He eivät tajua Euroopasta yhtään mitään eivätkä haluakaan tajuta. He oikeasti luulevat voivansa käyttää sadan vuoden takaisia amerikkalaisia kenkävahaneekereitä jonain argumenttina Fazerin lakua vastaan. Kuinka kukaan voi olla noin vitun tyhmä?</p>
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		<title>By: Kristian (in Espoo)</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2007/01/16/fazer-to-change-racist-mascot/comment-page-3/#comment-287168</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristian (in Espoo)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 22:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tanya---I can only assume you are American.  Because only an American would think that every country is JUST LIKE AMERICA more-or-less, with the same baggage of past evil-doing.

By now, after 102-posts in this thread, we are all familiar with American-style minstrel shows, which also had a more limited presence in Europe. But, as already stated in this thread, FINLAND IS NOT AMERICA!  We never had minstrel shows, enslaved blacks, lynched blacks, nor even made them sit in the back of the bus. This image was NOT conceived to ridicule or degrade anyone.  

Although I&#039;m not particularly fond of the product, I must admit that I&#039;ve grown attached to the packaging.  I&#039;ve seen it on store shelves since I was  very young---since the late sixties!    Now, thanks to America&#039;s sins, we&#039;re being asked to relinquish an important part of my childhood memories.  Wonderful. Just wonderful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tanya&#8212;I can only assume you are American.  Because only an American would think that every country is JUST LIKE AMERICA more-or-less, with the same baggage of past evil-doing.</p>
<p>By now, after 102-posts in this thread, we are all familiar with American-style minstrel shows, which also had a more limited presence in Europe. But, as already stated in this thread, FINLAND IS NOT AMERICA!  We never had minstrel shows, enslaved blacks, lynched blacks, nor even made them sit in the back of the bus. This image was NOT conceived to ridicule or degrade anyone.  </p>
<p>Although I&#8217;m not particularly fond of the product, I must admit that I&#8217;ve grown attached to the packaging.  I&#8217;ve seen it on store shelves since I was  very young&#8212;since the late sixties!    Now, thanks to America&#8217;s sins, we&#8217;re being asked to relinquish an important part of my childhood memories.  Wonderful. Just wonderful.</p>
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		<title>By: Tanya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tanya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 19:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackface


I recommend to the people that say there is nothing offensive in the pack&#039;s design, to please read this before they post their next comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackface" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackface</a></p>
<p>I recommend to the people that say there is nothing offensive in the pack&#8217;s design, to please read this before they post their next comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Blah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 14:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I forgot to add that I find the Korean commercial very funny.

Hyvä Hyvä :)


Oh shit I hear the PC police knocking on my door. I have to hide, see you after a few weeks :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I forgot to add that I find the Korean commercial very funny.</p>
<p>Hyvä Hyvä <img src='http://www.finlandforthought.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Oh shit I hear the PC police knocking on my door. I have to hide, see you after a few weeks <img src='http://www.finlandforthought.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Blah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 14:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Laku-pekka and Neekerinsuukot are offensive towards blacks then should Finns feel offended about these commercials

Japanese Xylitol-gum commercial
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmbdagDgqxw

or better yet this korean one is &quot;equal&quot; to the Laku-Pekka logo of the candy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvyoqZvoofY

I think not as I am sure that Finns understand the notion of these commercials. Just like Africans were exotic to finns during the time when these &quot;controversial&quot; logos were born. Finns are now just as exotic to Japanese and Koreans as Africans once were to Finns.

There is absolutely nothing to be offended about those logos nor about those above mentioned commercials, when you understand the cultural history about them. Should we change them for other reasons as times are different is an another guestion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Laku-pekka and Neekerinsuukot are offensive towards blacks then should Finns feel offended about these commercials</p>
<p>Japanese Xylitol-gum commercial<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmbdagDgqxw" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmbdagDgqxw</a></p>
<p>or better yet this korean one is &#8220;equal&#8221; to the Laku-Pekka logo of the candy</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvyoqZvoofY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvyoqZvoofY</a></p>
<p>I think not as I am sure that Finns understand the notion of these commercials. Just like Africans were exotic to finns during the time when these &#8220;controversial&#8221; logos were born. Finns are now just as exotic to Japanese and Koreans as Africans once were to Finns.</p>
<p>There is absolutely nothing to be offended about those logos nor about those above mentioned commercials, when you understand the cultural history about them. Should we change them for other reasons as times are different is an another guestion.</p>
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		<title>By: Freeridin' Franklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freeridin' Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 12:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Make him danceÃ¢â‚¬Â¦.indeed :-&#124;&lt;/i&gt;

See if you can teach the white boy any moves. ;)</description>
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<p>See if you can teach the white boy any moves. <img src='http://www.finlandforthought.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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