If the sauna hadn’t worked, there is always booze and tar!

yeppers – if those don’t do the trick, well…

Kimmo… Damn! I was gonna say that! So, as the old saying goes:

Whatever sauna, tar or vodka cannot cure shall bring you to your grave.

One small correction to Phils story…”I had my first frozen lake jumping experience”…

Not quite the same as was told to me by an Eye Whitnesses…..Hank will confirm which story is true..

“Phil came out of the mökki and he looked a bit pissed as he staggered to towards the edge of the lake, for a piss, with a bottle of kosu in his hand, ..so I says to him..carefull Phil that rock is very slippery…!

Too late..splash …he was in!”

Phil it is probably the same problem as last time…caused by the change in this stupid weather…were you taking Oggie for a walk in the snow last night?
Is there any pain in your back…kindey area??
Try some glögi after the sauna…but without the kosu…take that tonight so that you sleep…

Well, yes but no.

I think as time has passed and Phils missus won’t give him a whoopin over it I can come forth…

a) it wasn’t freezing, it was a bit cold, but maybe +10
b) it was not a lake, but the sea
c) it wasn’t a bottle of kossu, but a few beers

The part of the rock being slippery with algae is quite true. And the part I was making a photoshoot and giggling myself silly while Phil was mimicing a warlus is also true. After which Phil was quite sour “I could have been killed” and I was “then the pics would have fetched a higher price”… while we were trying to get him into dry gear…

I actually have the pics somewhere still

There is an alternative cure, though many would feel it is a waste of good whisky. Perhaps jaloviina instead?

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=1662040&blobtype=pdf

Scroll down. It’s on the right. The complaint is, by the way, well documented in medical journals.

Not quite the same as was told to me by an Eye Whitnesses…..Hank will confirm which story is true..

Hehe, actually my ice-lake jumping experience came first, then came the incident where I slipped into the water and couldn’t get out (it was summertime) and Hank and Gavin just stood there laughing at me.

I have found that the sauna helps clear up common cold symptoms too!

If the sauna can’t cure it, it’s fatal.

Don’t always believe only a Western Doctor can help. Chinese medicine or other herbs also work!

Let me tell you this. My dad long time ago went to a regular doctor about a knee problem he had for a long time. After some failed attempts the regular doctor said he would have to live with it. My dad then went to a Chinese doctor and guess what? After half a year of taking his herbs it went away. I don’t all trust Western doctors any longer.

Fired my my Southern Maryland Sauna last night (Its of Finnish design), went in with RUM, and wow, no back problems.

New house will have a sauna in it, so I don’t have to run in the cold to get hot. Anyone have designs (I did use a finnish web site 2 years ago)?

Will be putting in a drain, tiles floor, good vent’s. Where do you all suggest the window go? 1) Look outside house, or 2) just look inside at the dull hallway?

You actually use public health care???

One more piece of evidence that libertarians rarely live what they preach…

Sauna will always help, even in for bad mood. There should be sauna in every mentalhospital too.

It’s quite funny with those ibuprofen pills, the stronger ones are actually bigger. So taking two or three of the over-the-counter tablets will do just the same. And it’s a lot easier to swallow two smaller pills than one huge.

One shouldn’t visit sauna with a common cold. It can result into a heart attack. And the symptoms will come back worse after a while anyways.

As for the sauna design, the löyly room should be big enough and well ventilated from below (like the door not reaching all the way down or a hole below the kiuas). Otherwise sauna can be a torture rather than a pelasure. And it should have an easy access to a porch outside, preferably next to a lake or sea.

Carl:

“One more piece of evidence that libertarians rarely live what they preach…”

So true.

Just to follow up. Phil discusses 600 mg prespcription tablets vs. “3 200mg over-the-counter tablets”, since he seems to have used the former ones.

Now why does he bring this up?

Did he make the mistake of obeying the autochratic “welfare state” and bying more costly (in total) “prescription drugs”. Or was he simply further misusing “welfare” (from a libertarian point of view) by byuing prescription drugs at a subsidised rate? Go tell.

“One shouldn’t visit sauna with a common cold. It can result into a heart attack.”

If this is true, then the population of Finland should be dead about 1,000 years ago, probably more.

“Where do you all suggest the window go? 1) Look outside house, or 2) just look inside at the dull hallway?”

Install a plasma screen discounted from WalFart, tuned to FOX News.

Plasma screen TV is in the “MAN” room.

Thats where all the Rum is.

It’s not a problem if you go to the sauna with a small cold, but with a real flu with fever it can be deadly. I’ve been told that the virus can enter the heart as it’s more exhausting to it. Same with exercising.

And Rave the Dave, a lot of Finns do suffer from heart disease and such. Maybe there’s a connection

That’s funny. My sauna hates foreigners..

Rum or Sauna

Both make you happy.

Both fix your back.

Both are happy places

Both make you warm (Cold no longer sucks as much)

Thus Both should be used when needed, or when not needed.

15 & 19, stop being silly. Sauna is the best place to go if you have a flu or a cold, but what people do not understand is that “sauna” does not mean “120 degrees and rolling in the snow” kind of sauna. The thing is that if you have tha sauna too hot you can get your snot drawn up to the cavities which is bad. Also the heart problems and such arise if you get to extreme temperature differences. Sauna whan you have a flu is mellow, 50 degrees and depending on your feeling its excellent to do steam-breathing to get your nose unclogged.

Going to a sauna when you have a flu is the best thing to do.
Going to have a löyly-throwing competition is not.

I always thought that steam was good for your sinus when you have a cold (“flu” in Finnish English). Like I said, it seems to help the symptoms, but I don’t think it is a cure. I’ve had good luck with it, but I normally keep the rolling-in-the-snow to a minimum!

1) Look outside house

Definitely outside!

Now why does he bring this up?

Did he make the mistake of obeying the autochratic “welfare state” and bying more costly (in total) “prescription drugs”. Or was he simply further misusing “welfare” (from a libertarian point of view) by byuing prescription drugs at a subsidised rate? Go tell.

Heh, actually I wasn’t thinking about the welfare state at all. I’m just curious as to why the 600mg are prescription but 200mg are not, cause you can just as easily (if not more easily like Anni said) take 3 200mg pills.

You shouldn’t take ibuprofine for flu as it actually for longs the disease. Instead you should just let the fever take it’s course and take a mellow Sauna like Hank.W suggested.

Can magic sauna fix one’s misplaced “SI-nivel”? — Didn’t think so. But, yeah, sauna is great.

“1) Look outside house”

I agree, but sitting in the Sauna, I need help on the size/shape of the window.

Right now I have a Vertical window by the door. Thus I can see out from anywhere in the Sauna.

1) DO I go with a square window, say 2 ft by 2 ft
or
2) Vertical window again,
or
3) Horizontal window.

I am leaning to a square window, as all sitting positions can see out, the same for the horizontal window. I can’t see how an out side vertical window would work this time.

room would be 4ft by 6 ft. door in middle of 6 ft length, window on other.

Hank -

You’re right about the flu symptoms but I wouldn’t go to a mellow sauna either while having a fever, probably just less likely to cause trouble than a hot sauna. For references, see the december issue of Tiede magazine, the Q&A part.

I would just do steam-breathing the less-cool way with my head above boiling hot water

@10. I, too, tend to lean toward non-pharma and other sources to treat my body’s ailments. I really think that (for the minor stuff, at least) our bodies are made to heal themselves. Proper eating, sleeping, and exercise cures 90% of most sickness … and the other 10% is usually cured by eating chocolate or having really good sex with the right person.

what about smoke sauna… are they bad for upper respiratory diseases ?

Phil: “I’m just curious as to why the 600mg are prescription but 200mg are not…”

For me, 600mg is too much in most cases. Better to have the option to take smaller doses. I’ve cut-down 600mg pills before, but it’s probably not a good idea since the ingredients might not be evenly distributed.

By the way, Ibuprofen, asprin, cold medicine, etc. can be bought at any gas stations mini-market in America. They cost about 1/3 of what we pay for ‘subsidized’ medicines here in Finland/Europe.

No. 29:

get a sauna that self-locks and where the temperature knob breaks when it reaches maximum.

Phil:

“Heh, actually I wasn’t thinking about the welfare state at all. I’m just curious as to why the 600mg are prescription but 200mg are not, cause you can just as easily (if not more easily like Anni said) take 3 200mg pills.”

For a person coming from a country, where coffee cups need to “include” warnings about the fact that the contents may be hot, you seem incredibly naive.

Isn’t this quite clear from this (hot coffee cup – remember) point of view? Or do I need to elaborate further? The fact that finnish people are not quite as stupid as your kind, doesn’t change the fact that there are security kind of issues involved with drugs. But, nobody can stop you if you would decide to eat 10 600 mg ibuprofens for breakfast.

“temperature knob breaks when it reaches maximum.”

do I get lots of Rum to throw on it? Or just to drink?

#31

“Proper eating, sleeping, and exercise cures 90% of most sickness … and the other 10% is usually cured by eating chocolate or having really good sex with the right person”

Like pneumonia, tuberculosis (and other bacterial diseases), leprosy, diabetes, cancer, ebola, malaria etc. etc.

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http://www.yle.fi/uutiset/24h/id51183.html
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4KX7SkDe4Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV2fTEeP6GM

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My fix: More global warming will force these pesky creatures more to the north. Problem solved by rumming my SUV this week.

glad to see a sauna can help you mate. my dad’s been a doctor for about 30 years and has always said rest, wine, and a good bath can heal most of what causes people discomfort.

Maybe the Sauna can cure this finnish producers mind too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4KX7SkDe4Q