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	<title>Comments on: Shortbus and the new genre, &#8220;porndramedy&#8221;</title>
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		<description>I would just like to say this movie is not porn. Actually the sexual activity is merely just part of the picture. The film is about sexuality and the interplay of relationships between a post traumatic/ post modern society. Hardcore porn is so far from what it is. This movie has meaning and if you think its just about sex, your mind must be so shallow you wouldn&#039;t get anything out of this but an erection. So I guess it&#039;s completely up to you on how you view the film, but I wouldn&#039;t be going around telling people Shortbus is a hardcore porn cross movie because you&#039;ll just look like an idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would just like to say this movie is not porn. Actually the sexual activity is merely just part of the picture. The film is about sexuality and the interplay of relationships between a post traumatic/ post modern society. Hardcore porn is so far from what it is. This movie has meaning and if you think its just about sex, your mind must be so shallow you wouldn&#8217;t get anything out of this but an erection. So I guess it&#8217;s completely up to you on how you view the film, but I wouldn&#8217;t be going around telling people Shortbus is a hardcore porn cross movie because you&#8217;ll just look like an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 05:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sadie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sadie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 01:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The concept of combining film genre is intriguing, and I believe would be welcomed by a large audience. The combinations of situations, emotions, and reactions are much wider range.

There will always be devotees to any pure film category.  The more simple-minded people that ONLY watch porn, or romantic comedy, or frat-house comedy, or disaster, or war movies, or whatever, will not consider ANY of the other forms of entertainment, and certainly not an unconventional mix.   

However, other audience members, already quite familiar with the &quot;pure&quot; styles... as viewed gain and again, have grown to find the plots, jokes, rescues, whatever, quite predictable and ready for a fresh approach.  A blending of reality and fantasy, as porn, comedy &amp; drama, does actually more closely reflect real life, and is equally unpredictable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The concept of combining film genre is intriguing, and I believe would be welcomed by a large audience. The combinations of situations, emotions, and reactions are much wider range.</p>
<p>There will always be devotees to any pure film category.  The more simple-minded people that ONLY watch porn, or romantic comedy, or frat-house comedy, or disaster, or war movies, or whatever, will not consider ANY of the other forms of entertainment, and certainly not an unconventional mix.   </p>
<p>However, other audience members, already quite familiar with the &#8220;pure&#8221; styles&#8230; as viewed gain and again, have grown to find the plots, jokes, rescues, whatever, quite predictable and ready for a fresh approach.  A blending of reality and fantasy, as porn, comedy &amp; drama, does actually more closely reflect real life, and is equally unpredictable.</p>
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		<title>By: saempy</title>
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		<dc:creator>saempy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 04:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Special ed, hardcore porn, drama and comedy. Sounds like Idioterne (a.k.a The Idiots) by Lars von Trier: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0154421/

&quot;Group fuck! Group fuck!&quot;

Well it only has that one scene, but still.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Special ed, hardcore porn, drama and comedy. Sounds like Idioterne (a.k.a The Idiots) by Lars von Trier: <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0154421/" rel="nofollow">http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0154421/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Group fuck! Group fuck!&#8221;</p>
<p>Well it only has that one scene, but still.</p>
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		<title>By: giustino</title>
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		<dc:creator>giustino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Human sexuality is a powerful thing, and it makes sense to try and depict it accurately in drama. I&#039;m not too keen on the gay porno part though. No offense to the other team, but that stuff usually makes me sick to my stomach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Human sexuality is a powerful thing, and it makes sense to try and depict it accurately in drama. I&#8217;m not too keen on the gay porno part though. No offense to the other team, but that stuff usually makes me sick to my stomach.</p>
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		<title>By: Freeridin' Franklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freeridin' Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 19:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I just heard this morning that Finland gives out needles for free to IV drug users&lt;/i&gt;

You just heard this morning? Given that you&#039;ve expressed an interest in drug policy, this is pretty shocking. You need to get out of the barrel you&#039;re apparently living in (Espoo certainly qualifies) and step up your efforts to learn Finnish OR Swedish. Lest you become a welfare-statist zombie brainwashed by Hesari, you might want to consider subscribing to HBL to get an alternative viewpoint.

Yes, the needle exchange/drug counseling centres (called &quot;Vinkki&quot;) have been in operation for about 10 years now. They were set up as a response to the mid-to-late 90s HIV epidemic among IV drug users. Initially they raised quite a ruckus among the flower-hatted aunties  who argued that by providing clean needles they are encouraging CRIME. (As in: now that I have this shiny new syringe that I spontaneously decided to pick up, I just gotta go buy me some heroin and shoot it up, man). The health officials laid out the hard numbers: how many HIV infections we&#039;ll have in a given time is something is not done. This shut the aunties up. The epidemic was quickly put under control.

Contrast this with Estonia, which has left dealing with the HIV problem to the invisible hand and now has the highest HIV infection rate outside Africa. Yes, higher than e.g. Thailand.

Of course, I am not in any way suggesting that Finland is dealing with drug problems in an optimal manner. For instance, there are no decent maintenance treatment programs with either buprenorphine or methadone. One guy (Dr. Pentti Karvonen) tried to offer buprenorphine maintenance treatment and was jailed for a long time. Shameful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I just heard this morning that Finland gives out needles for free to IV drug users</i></p>
<p>You just heard this morning? Given that you&#8217;ve expressed an interest in drug policy, this is pretty shocking. You need to get out of the barrel you&#8217;re apparently living in (Espoo certainly qualifies) and step up your efforts to learn Finnish OR Swedish. Lest you become a welfare-statist zombie brainwashed by Hesari, you might want to consider subscribing to HBL to get an alternative viewpoint.</p>
<p>Yes, the needle exchange/drug counseling centres (called &#8220;Vinkki&#8221;) have been in operation for about 10 years now. They were set up as a response to the mid-to-late 90s HIV epidemic among IV drug users. Initially they raised quite a ruckus among the flower-hatted aunties  who argued that by providing clean needles they are encouraging CRIME. (As in: now that I have this shiny new syringe that I spontaneously decided to pick up, I just gotta go buy me some heroin and shoot it up, man). The health officials laid out the hard numbers: how many HIV infections we&#8217;ll have in a given time is something is not done. This shut the aunties up. The epidemic was quickly put under control.</p>
<p>Contrast this with Estonia, which has left dealing with the HIV problem to the invisible hand and now has the highest HIV infection rate outside Africa. Yes, higher than e.g. Thailand.</p>
<p>Of course, I am not in any way suggesting that Finland is dealing with drug problems in an optimal manner. For instance, there are no decent maintenance treatment programs with either buprenorphine or methadone. One guy (Dr. Pentti Karvonen) tried to offer buprenorphine maintenance treatment and was jailed for a long time. Shameful.</p>
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		<title>By: Hank W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hank W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good Australian Film for you guys to watch is &quot;Bad Boy Bubby&quot; ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good Australian Film for you guys to watch is &#8220;Bad Boy Bubby&#8221; <img src='http://www.finlandforthought.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Qtea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Qtea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 15:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should write a separate post on needle exchange, Phil ;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should write a separate post on needle exchange, Phil <img src='http://www.finlandforthought.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: Blah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 14:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#18

You know why they do these needle exchanges? Do you think the same way about sex education, that teaching how to use the condom promotes sex among teenagers? And thats just wrong isn&#039;t it?</description>
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<p>You know why they do these needle exchanges? Do you think the same way about sex education, that teaching how to use the condom promotes sex among teenagers? And thats just wrong isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 13:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Anglosphere countries are the champions of double standards.&lt;/i&gt;

I just heard this morning that Finland gives out needles  for free to IV drug users, yet if we catch you with heroin we throw you in jail.  Talk about a double standard! (although, I think all modern countries do needle exchange)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Anglosphere countries are the champions of double standards.</i></p>
<p>I just heard this morning that Finland gives out needles  for free to IV drug users, yet if we catch you with heroin we throw you in jail.  Talk about a double standard! (although, I think all modern countries do needle exchange)</p>
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		<title>By: helsidni</title>
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		<dc:creator>helsidni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 12:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shortbus was not banned. Not sure about Baise-moi.</description>
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		<title>By: Blah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 10:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#14

Do you mean Baise-moi or Shortbus, as according to the IMDB Baise-moi is or was banned in Australia</description>
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<p>Do you mean Baise-moi or Shortbus, as according to the IMDB Baise-moi is or was banned in Australia</p>
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		<title>By: Stello</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 03:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I ever want to traumatise Daniel for life and make him sing loud LALALALALA for months, I&#039;ll get this on DVD and show it to him without a content warning.. LOL (Not that he&#039;s homophobic at all, but he&#039;d NOT want to see something that graphic) =D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I ever want to traumatise Daniel for life and make him sing loud LALALALALA for months, I&#8217;ll get this on DVD and show it to him without a content warning.. LOL (Not that he&#8217;s homophobic at all, but he&#8217;d NOT want to see something that graphic) =D</p>
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		<title>By: helsidni</title>
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		<dc:creator>helsidni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 02:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The film is not banned in Australia at all. Is currently screening at Dendy cinemas.

Check out the director&#039;s other film Hedwig and the Angry Inch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The film is not banned in Australia at all. Is currently screening at Dendy cinemas.</p>
<p>Check out the director&#8217;s other film Hedwig and the Angry Inch.</p>
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		<title>By: inFINNdel</title>
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		<dc:creator>inFINNdel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 23:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YIKES!....YUCK!...gag me with a spoon,growdy to the max,i&#039;m so sure...
infinndel finally admits to being offended...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YIKES!&#8230;.YUCK!&#8230;gag me with a spoon,growdy to the max,i&#8217;m so sure&#8230;<br />
infinndel finally admits to being offended&#8230;</p>
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