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		<title>By: L Gustafsson</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/12/06/finnish-independence-day/comment-page-1/#comment-353943</link>
		<dc:creator>L Gustafsson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 22:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trevlig självständighetsdag to all. In a muted tone my good friend O. Markkonen and I will be toasting the fallen heroes of the civil, winter and continuation wars, with Finlandia and my homespun Applejack while we watch the epic Talvisota. 
It is noteable for those that are unaware that Finland actually won the Talvisota from a nationalist perspective as She did not go the way of Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trevlig självständighetsdag to all. In a muted tone my good friend O. Markkonen and I will be toasting the fallen heroes of the civil, winter and continuation wars, with Finlandia and my homespun Applejack while we watch the epic Talvisota.<br />
It is noteable for those that are unaware that Finland actually won the Talvisota from a nationalist perspective as She did not go the way of Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Finnpundit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Finnpundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 18:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JG: You don&#039;t need to speak those languages to get some of the references! :-))

That parody of a Finn is perfect!

As to the Danish ones, I remember reading somewhere that the Danish Film Institute had figured out an Oscar winning formula (&lt;em&gt;Babette&#039;s Feast, Pelle the Conqueror)&lt;/em&gt;, and began churning out these cookie cutter nostalgic films about quaint Danish country bumpkins and how terrific things were in a European past, knowing that it would appeal to those blue-state American audiences that lap that stuff up.  This little clip hits the spot on that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JG: You don&#8217;t need to speak those languages to get some of the references! <img src='http://www.finlandforthought.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
<p>That parody of a Finn is perfect!</p>
<p>As to the Danish ones, I remember reading somewhere that the Danish Film Institute had figured out an Oscar winning formula (<em>Babette&#8217;s Feast, Pelle the Conqueror)</em>, and began churning out these cookie cutter nostalgic films about quaint Danish country bumpkins and how terrific things were in a European past, knowing that it would appeal to those blue-state American audiences that lap that stuff up.  This little clip hits the spot on that one.</p>
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		<title>By: Mo</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/12/06/finnish-independence-day/comment-page-1/#comment-218331</link>
		<dc:creator>Mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 02:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OH, well.. then.. un-happy birthday to you tomorrow :D save it for later, I suppose...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH, well.. then.. un-happy birthday to you tomorrow <img src='http://www.finlandforthought.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  save it for later, I suppose&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JG</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/12/06/finnish-independence-day/comment-page-1/#comment-218175</link>
		<dc:creator>JG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 23:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just back from party.

For those of us who can laugh at ourselves (and can understand Swedish), here&#039;s joke...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL-S2JdCDHU&amp;mode=related&amp;search=

Also, I know this is off topic, but it made me laugh so much I have to share. A Swedish joke about the Danes... (you need to understand Swedish, well mock Danish):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YFmCAdhdNQ&amp;mode=related&amp;search=</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just back from party.</p>
<p>For those of us who can laugh at ourselves (and can understand Swedish), here&#8217;s joke&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL-S2JdCDHU&#038;mode=related&#038;search" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL-S2JdCDHU&#038;mode=related&#038;search</a>=</p>
<p>Also, I know this is off topic, but it made me laugh so much I have to share. A Swedish joke about the Danes&#8230; (you need to understand Swedish, well mock Danish):<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YFmCAdhdNQ&#038;mode=related&#038;search" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YFmCAdhdNQ&#038;mode=related&#038;search</a>=</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/12/06/finnish-independence-day/comment-page-1/#comment-218086</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 21:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Phil.. if it really is your birthday on the 7thÃ¢â‚¬Â¦&lt;/i&gt;

Mine&#039;s the day after the American independence day. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Phil.. if it really is your birthday on the 7thÃ¢â‚¬Â¦</i></p>
<p>Mine&#8217;s the day after the American independence day. <img src='http://www.finlandforthought.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kristian (in Espoo)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristian (in Espoo)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 20:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although they are the same in principle---for the most part, I&#039;m sure---there&#039;s a difference in taste. Glögi is sweeter (but not too sweet), whereas glÃƒÂ¼hwein is usually more sour; maybe some exceptions exist though.

In Germany, most towns/cities have elaborate, outdoor Christmas markets. I normally look for a Swedish or Finnish stand that sells glögi, since I usually prefer it over glÃƒÂ¼hwein.  I guess warm-and-sour drinks don&#039;t appeal to me. 

I like sour bier though, if it&#039;s cold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although they are the same in principle&#8212;for the most part, I&#8217;m sure&#8212;there&#8217;s a difference in taste. Glögi is sweeter (but not too sweet), whereas glÃƒÂ¼hwein is usually more sour; maybe some exceptions exist though.</p>
<p>In Germany, most towns/cities have elaborate, outdoor Christmas markets. I normally look for a Swedish or Finnish stand that sells glögi, since I usually prefer it over glÃƒÂ¼hwein.  I guess warm-and-sour drinks don&#8217;t appeal to me. </p>
<p>I like sour bier though, if it&#8217;s cold.</p>
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		<title>By: Suviko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suviko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 18:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glögi came to Finland through other Nordic countries from the German-speaking region. Mulled wine has many local standards and common variations in Europe. It can be made of wine or juices, it can have alchocol (vodka, cognac, brandy, liqueurs like cherry...).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulled_wine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glögi came to Finland through other Nordic countries from the German-speaking region. Mulled wine has many local standards and common variations in Europe. It can be made of wine or juices, it can have alchocol (vodka, cognac, brandy, liqueurs like cherry&#8230;).</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulled_wine" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulled_wine</a></p>
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		<title>By: Suviko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suviko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 18:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Btw, I thought you might like the bizarre news item, related to independence day in a way:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsjOLvYcuTc

http://www.hs.fi/kotimaa/artikkeli/Veteraani+kuoli+panssarivaunun+alle/1135223486035

An elderly war veteran was calmly seated to watch the official military parade in Jyväskylä and suddenly ran in the middle of parade street, lay down and was run over by an armoured vehicle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Btw, I thought you might like the bizarre news item, related to independence day in a way:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsjOLvYcuTc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsjOLvYcuTc</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.hs.fi/kotimaa/artikkeli/Veteraani+kuoli+panssarivaunun+alle/1135223486035" rel="nofollow">http://www.hs.fi/kotimaa/artikkeli/Veteraani+kuoli+panssarivaunun+alle/1135223486035</a></p>
<p>An elderly war veteran was calmly seated to watch the official military parade in Jyväskylä and suddenly ran in the middle of parade street, lay down and was run over by an armoured vehicle.</p>
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		<title>By: Freeridin' Franklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freeridin' Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 17:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Do English speakers understand glögi? ItÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s usually translated to mulled wine in menus.&lt;/i&gt;

Mulled wine is glÃƒÂ¼hwein, oder nicht? Not the same thing as glögi/glögg.

Glögi as we know it would appear to be a 100% Nordic thing. We have taken a liking to the (at least) German way of having glÃƒÂ¼hwein with a dash of amaretto.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Do English speakers understand glögi? ItÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s usually translated to mulled wine in menus.</i></p>
<p>Mulled wine is glÃƒÂ¼hwein, oder nicht? Not the same thing as glögi/glögg.</p>
<p>Glögi as we know it would appear to be a 100% Nordic thing. We have taken a liking to the (at least) German way of having glÃƒÂ¼hwein with a dash of amaretto.</p>
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		<title>By: Suviko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suviko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 17:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do English speakers understand glögi? It&#039;s usually translated to mulled wine in menus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do English speakers understand glögi? It&#8217;s usually translated to mulled wine in menus.</p>
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		<title>By: Mo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 17:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, if I forget to tell you tomorrow, Happy Birthday, Phil.. if it really is your birthday on the 7th...

And Happy Independence Day, Finland! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, if I forget to tell you tomorrow, Happy Birthday, Phil.. if it really is your birthday on the 7th&#8230;</p>
<p>And Happy Independence Day, Finland! <img src='http://www.finlandforthought.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Freeridin' Franklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freeridin' Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 15:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The presidential ball is slightly less interesting than watching grass grow&lt;/i&gt;

Sure, if you&#039;re a heterosexual male.

Then again, it is moderately interesting to see how many veterans can still make it there. Some day, there will be none.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The presidential ball is slightly less interesting than watching grass grow</i></p>
<p>Sure, if you&#8217;re a heterosexual male.</p>
<p>Then again, it is moderately interesting to see how many veterans can still make it there. Some day, there will be none.</p>
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		<title>By: mjr</title>
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		<dc:creator>mjr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 15:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, this dismal season doesn&#039;t exactly lend itself to wild street festivities... The presidential ball is slightly less interesting than watching grass grow, but in general I like this understated way the independence is celebrated. It is a valued thing here for many good historical reasons and in this culture you don&#039;t shout about valued things from the rooftops as such boasting would devalue them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, this dismal season doesn&#8217;t exactly lend itself to wild street festivities&#8230; The presidential ball is slightly less interesting than watching grass grow, but in general I like this understated way the independence is celebrated. It is a valued thing here for many good historical reasons and in this culture you don&#8217;t shout about valued things from the rooftops as such boasting would devalue them.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 15:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hyvää Itsenäisyyspäivää!
Trevlig Självständighetsdag!
Happy Independenceday!

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hyvää Itsenäisyyspäivää!<br />
Trevlig Självständighetsdag!<br />
Happy Independenceday!</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.finlandforthought.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: inFINNdel</title>
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		<dc:creator>inFINNdel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 15:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>infinndel has been quietly observing the commentary and strong debate on F.F.T.,about Finland&#039;s complex historical actions during those terrible times of WW2....WAR brings out the worst and best actions by mankind engaged in horrific history....

Finnish people can only look back and reflect on their confusing history during that time..
Somehow,whatever happened at that timeline enabled FINLAND to become one of the greatest and most respected countries on this planet!!
HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY TO FINLAND...innfinndel from massachusetts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>infinndel has been quietly observing the commentary and strong debate on F.F.T.,about Finland&#8217;s complex historical actions during those terrible times of WW2&#8230;.WAR brings out the worst and best actions by mankind engaged in horrific history&#8230;.</p>
<p>Finnish people can only look back and reflect on their confusing history during that time..<br />
Somehow,whatever happened at that timeline enabled FINLAND to become one of the greatest and most respected countries on this planet!!<br />
HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY TO FINLAND&#8230;innfinndel from massachusetts</p>
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