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23.11.2006

Discrimination

Tags: Uncategorized — Author:   @ 11:30 pm

Now it is of course how you write the piece of news… and how you read it.

a) A Jyväskylä restaurant owner refused to serve two gypsy men due to their ethnic background, the men complained of discrimination. The Jyväskylä district court fined the restaurant owner 1000 euros for discrimination.

Of course, Finns are racists, they do not like the gypsies. Bad Jyväskylä people.

b) An immigrant pizzeria owner refused to serve two Finnish men due to their ethnic background, the men complained of discrimination. The Jyväskylä district court fined the restaurant owner 1000 euros for discrimination.

Of course, the racist Finnish court system is against the immigrants. They treat the skinhead nazis like choir boys.Finns are racists. Bad Jyväskylä people.

c) An immigrant pizzeria owner refused to serve two gypsy men due to their ethnic background, the men complained of discrimination. The Jyväskylä district court fined the restaurant owner 1000 euros for discrimination.
Oooops! Multiculturalism? Racism? Xenophobia? Call the flower-hatted-aunties! Immigrants are people!

The bottom line is: A restaurant owner refused to serve two men due to their ethnic background, the men complained of discrimination. The Jyväskylä district court fined the restaurant owner 1000 euros for discrimination.

Can’t we all just get along?

  • Olli

    Having just read Norman Fairclough’s Critical Discourse Analysis, I’m personally well aware of media’s awesome power over our collective white-ass mind. I didn’t, however, quite catch the point of your post?

  • Hank W.

    Well, depending on how you present the facts, you can ‘color’ the same piece of news to suit your own agenda.

  • Olli

    As I said, I know the media can color any story they wish any way they want. However, that blatant misleading of readers would be unrealistic in huge majority of newspapers in Finland. I think you might want to “tone down” your examples to a level a touch closer to realism.

  • Hank W.

    The c) is how it read in Iltalehti.

  • North American reader

    Who/What are “flower-hatted-aunties”?

  • Olli

    Iltalehti is well known to be a tabloid (and a bottomless source for CDA material), not exactly what you call a prestigious news paper. Secondly, the interpretation of it you imposed to the readers of this blog isn’t exactly balanced or neutral in any way. Nor can be sustained very easily.

  • Hank W.

    #5 flower-hatted-auntie OK, so are you familiar with Pippi Longstocking? If you are, good, so the adversary “grownup” is “Fröken Pruselius”. she is the epitome flower-hatted-auntie. A busybody hypocrite nimbyite maybe could describe such a person. The kind that takes cans to recycling in the SUV to conserve energy. The kind that advocates immigration and multiculturalism, but won’t hire a foreigner nor rent them a room. Dunno if you get the gist.

  • Hank W.

    Olli, I’m extrapolating a bit on the Kajaani case.

    a) is about how keskisuomalainen wrote.
    http://www3.keskisuomalainen.net/servlet/page?_pageid=67&_dad=portal30&_schema=PORTAL30&file=sahkeuutiset/4764188.html&depa=keskis

    c) is how Iltalehti wrote, 17.11 in the paper version. the “39-year old enterpreneur who was of foreign origin”

    now even if some paper would have written like b)…

    My point is that people are all too easy to jump to conclusions. It may become a shock to some that the halo-clad poor immigrant pizzeria owner might be a racist discriminating bastard.

    Just how people interprete the Kajaani pizzeria so definitely black/white issue. Maybe there are shades of grey?

  • Anonymous

    Dumb fucker! What would happen to immigrants that refused to serve Finns in Finland?

    Which Finnish newspaper ran that story dumb fucker in denial

  • Boyle

    ?

    And this doesn’t happen anywhere else than in Finland? Again, sounds like you have found a pure piece of Finnish culture. You’re overusing word racism, bud.

    .

  • http://viheliasarki.blogspot.com/ Kieltosana

    #9
    “What would happen to immigrants that refused to serve Finns in Finland?”
    well that’s just what happened, or are you saying that romanis who have lived in finland from 16th century are not finns? and what happened, they had to pay fine.
    i didn’t know that if the bar that banned me, didn’t have proof that would hold in a court of my misbehaviour, could be sued for discrimination. or do i have to be a part of a minority? do lestadians count as a minority? how about jehova’s witness’s?

    Most bars deny entry from people who appear drunk. what kind of evidence of drunkenness do they need to deny an intoxicated minority member from entering to avoid charges of discrimination. problem is of course that a staggering white person might be someone with cerebral palsy or other handicap instead of being drunk. do you need breath-tests in bar door in order to not to break any laws.

  • Hank W.

    Dunno, all the pubs around here are run by immigrants. Maybe I should start scream “racism” when the barman says ‘last call’.

  • http://www.rautainen.com Jyväskyläinen

    How you even notice who is gypsy and who is not?

  • Kristian (in Espoo)

    How you even notice who is gypsy and who is not?

    I dunno. Covered wagon? Lives in a tent?

  • http://viheliasarki.blogspot.com/ Kieltosana

    gypsy is not a gypsy without the gypsy wardrobe. usually dark haired people who dress up like taxi drivers but are not, are gypsys.
    and gypsy women have that whole dress thingy that is hard to miss.

  • Kristian (in Espoo)

    A short while ago, I chatted with two gypsy women. They were shopping for bulk textiles, while I was shopping for gloves and hats. No deep conversation; just a few words. They were very pleasant. And I think they make those dresses themselves.

  • saempy

    Tampere kuuluu mulle!
    I said you better believe it

  • Anonymous

    Are we talking about the Roma here? Or just the singing, dancing gypsys that live in tents?

  • http://finnpundit.blogspot.com Finnpundit

    No, were talking about Cher.

  • Hank W.

    I don’t think the Finnish roma dance or live in tents… its a bit too cold for that. The travelling stopped in the 1950′s and 1960′s around the time of the big change in the agrarian society. And actually yes, theres quite a few roma women running their own seamstress business.

  • henry

    I think that the restaurant owner said one of the gypsies had ordered (and eaten?) a pizza earlier and had not paid for it. so he knew at least the other gypsy and did not serve them because of this.

  • Hank W.

    Yes, but some animals are more equal than other animals.

  • Anonymous

    [test]

    How do you quote stuff?

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