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15.10.2006

Photo of the Day

Tags: Uncategorized — Author: @ 11:35 am

she_stole_balloons.jpg
Girl holds balloons of the nationalist, anti-immigration “True Finns” party. Photo from Helsingin Sanomat.

  • Turjake

    Haha, that’s priceless.

  • Pave

    she_stole_balloons.jpg :P

  • Mo

    Uh…. haha.

  • Mo

    Oh, and Phil, I don’t know if it’s just me, but the ads in the left column of the site are covering over the far left sides of all your articles. Not too badly, but noticeable. I don’t know if that’s my problem or not…

  • http://fredfryinternational.blogspot.com/ Fred Fry

    She was probably born in Finland!

  • Blah

    #4
    Same here, the news ads are covering the first letters on the left.

    like under the picture it says -.. snagged from.., I get ..nagged from..

  • Paavo Ojala

    why couldn’t a black girl wearing a headscarf support the true finns?

  • Kristian (in Espoo)

    It’s nice to see that the Nationalists have decided to widen their base of support :lol:

    Or maybe the definition of Nationalism is changing? :-X

  • http://www.laak.info/blog Timo L.

    I don’t think True Finns have anything against immigration and immigrants if they are coming here to work like Phil. They just don’t like that multiculture religion which seems to rule the conversation about immigrants.

  • http://www.finlandforthought.net Phil

    Oh, and Phil, I don’t know if it’s just me, but the ads in the left column of the site are covering over the far left sides of all your articles. Not too badly, but noticeable. I don’t know if that’s my problem or not…

    Which browser are you using?

  • someguy

    To 9.

    I don’t think they like phil, he is trying to change our culture. True finns want to preserve it.

  • Anonymous

    to 10, mee too.. ie

  • Antti (the redneck one)

    Didn’t the True Finns predecessor SMP have even this doctor from the Middle-East as a MP candidate sometime in the 90′s. Can’t remember his name though.

  • Kristian (in Espoo)

    Timo—You might have a good point. Maybe the girl—and perhaps some other non-ethnic Finns in the crowd—are used by True Finns to prove it. If so, it might be good. I saw about a-dozen skinheads at Kamppi on Friday night. We have enough adults in society who fuel ethnic hatred; I hope our extreme right political parties don’t make matters worse. Admittedly, I don’t know much about our extreme right political parties though.

    I only know that when I had short hair, sometimes skinheads would ‘nod’ at me, like I am one of them :lol:

    By the way—and without going into the strangest circumstances of how we met (aside from saying that I was a bicycle tourist in need of a place to stay for the night)—I once encountered with someone, in Germany, who is a state social worker that specializes in skinheads. For example, she arranges job training or acts as a liaison between jailed skinheads and their families, etc. Interestingly, she considers herself to be a ‘sympathizer’ to their cause. She even has verboten in Deutschland skinhead music and paraphernalia. In fact, her entire eastern German tenement-neighborhood is awash with neo-Nazis.

    By default, I met some of the pro-NPD rightists with whom she associates. They aren’t ultra violent types, necessarily; rather, they are ones with whom it was possible to sit and drink some biers and have half-way intelligent discussions about certain topics that interest them.

    Contrary to popular myth, they aren’t necessarily against people who are ethnically different from themselves (although it does seem to provide a litmus test :-/ ). Instead, they mostly object to ‘outsiders’ settling-in and taking public resources that would otherwise be alloted to the lower strata of society (coincidentally, those who are most likely to fall-into neo-Nazism). Such things as job training usually qualify as objects of contention; the premise of course being that welfare payments to foreigners reduce the number of state-sponsored apprenticeships, etc.

    Another reason for their banding-together, according to the rightists, is because of foreigner-induced crime; especially in these big, deteriorated housing complexes. In this case, there was a large number of Russians who settled-in, so there were lots of gang-related attacks and counter-attacks. In fact, at one point in the evening, someone exploded a bomb, down in the common area. It shattered the windows of a recently abandoned pharmacy. I was told that this is a form of indirect intimidation that is normally practiced on otherwise lively Saturday nights.

    Needless to say, it wasn’t the most comfortable situation at that point….and definitely NOT something for which I’d bargained earlier in the day. That is, she first began divulging details of her life *after* we’d gotten comfortable and I’d already unpacked! All in all, and looking back, it was an interesting experience to say the least. And, I concluded that such a lifestyle with its ingrained beliefs definitely doesn’t fit for me. In short, I never called her back :P

  • Mikko Ellilä

    It’s so typical of Phil that he simply posts a picture and then says something like “Look at this, HA HA HA HA HA!!” without contributing anything intellectual.

    He has done that several times with e.g. Finnish politicians. He likes to comment on Tarja Halonen’s looks, Mauri Pekkarinen’s looks, Paula Lehtomäki’s looks, Erkki Tuomioja’s looks etc. etc. etc. without saying anything about the substance of their politics. Apparently he has nothing to say.

  • http://q-funk.iki.fi Martin-Éric

    At the municipal elections in 2004, True Finns had a Flemish candidate in Kotka. Granted, he arrived here as a teen and has spent nearly 30 years here already, but still… The mere though of it was amusing.

  • http://www.axis-of-aevil.net/ hfb

    Mikko – You are striking out on the substance yourself. Generally when you’re taking the piss like that you gotta back it up with something profound in return rather than a limp dick of a neener neener.

    Phil didn’t take the picture. A Finnish press photographer did and for the same reason Phil found it curious and funny. I guess it’s OK if the critic is Finnish though, right?

  • http://www.finlandforthought.net Phil

    Apparently he has nothing to say.

    “A picture is worth a thousand words” :-)

  • http://finnpundit.blogspot.com Finnpundit

    If that little girl was born in Finland, then she is a Finn, although she will grow up with an African-Finn heritage. And that’s all good.

    I would like to point out, though, that photographic journalists are notorious for planting subject-matter in their photos. It happened during the recent Israeli-Hezbollah war all the time.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the journalists from Helsingin Sanomat spotted this little girl out of a protest crowd, and then gave her the balloons on purpose (and what child doesn’t like balloons?) She appears to walk towards somebody in this photo, – as if she was being directed – just behind the main interviewees, who seem oblivious to what’s going on behind them. Notice the strange angle of the photo, which could indicate that the photographer knew what was about to happen, but had to snap the photo fast enough so the parties in the foreground would not be tipped off.

    But, we simply don’t know. All we know is that journalists cannot be trusted.

  • Markku

    Superb picture by HS.

    I guess those perussuomalaiset have been giving balloons to passer-bys, and that girls just happened to walk by, and took those balloons without knowing the meaning behind it.

    Priceless. :-)

  • Mikko Ellilä

    “Mikko – You are striking out on the substance yourself. Generally when you’re taking the piss like that you gotta back it up with something profound in return rather than a limp dick of a neener neener. Phil didn’t take the picture. A Finnish press photographer did and for the same reason Phil found it curious and funny. I guess it’s OK if the critic is Finnish though, right?
    Comment by hfb — Sun, Oct 15th, 2006 @ 10:29 pm”

    Wow. I’ve never seen such a hostile knee-jerk reaction to legitimate criticism. You do have some anger management problems.

    I simply pointed out that Phil likes to talk about politicians’ looks instead of their politics. Every reasonable person will admit that this is very relevant criticism.

    In general, Phil’s posts mostly consist of just saying “Look at this, HA HA HA HA HA!!” instead of intellectual analysis of important issues. Even when he writes about politics, he does it with this “Look at this, HA HA HA HA HA!!” attitude.

    The fact that Phil himself didn’t take the picture included in this post is as obvious as it is irrelevant. Totally irrelevant. It doesn’t affect the value of Phil’s “Look at this, HA HA HA HA HA!!” attitude at all.

  • superiorinferior

    I think, Mikko, that most of the tripe you post here (and everywhere else I’ve “stepped into it”) is totally irrelevant.

    You blather on and on about things you have little to no understanding of and then when someone refutes it your favorite rebuttal is “irrelevant” or “strawman,” and that is that. How are you any different from “Ha Ha Phil”?

  • http://koti.phnet.fi/bevertje/index majava

    Sometimes Phil comes up with a lengthy article that consists of quotes and his remarks in between, but as many times he’s just posting a picture, movie, or someone else’s quote there and in that case we must do the talking. What’s so difficult in understanding that??

  • Mikko Ellilä

    “I think, Mikko, that most of the tripe you post here is totally irrelevant.”

    Apparently you lack the ability to see what is relevant and what isn’t.

    “You blather on and on about things you have little to no understanding of”

    Such as?

    “and then when someone refutes it your favorite rebuttal is “irrelevant” or “strawman,” and that is that.”

    You really do lack the ability to see what is relevant and what isn’t, QED.

    If you actually understood which issues and arguments are relevant in a given context, you would not complain about my habit of ignoring irrelevant yaketyyak.

    And if you understood the meaning of the term ‘strawman argument’, you would not complain about my habit of ignoring strawmen.

  • Sixten

    Paula Lehtomäki is kinda cute.

  • Freeridin’ Franklin

    Finnpundit:
    If that little girl was born in Finland, then she is a Finn, although she will grow up with an African-Finn heritage. And that’s all good.

    She’ll probably become a Finnish Muslim, i.e. the worst imaginable abomination.

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