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1. Wait?? She went to the evil USA to do what? Ring a bell at the most corrupt orginization in the world? No not the UN, (I know that was first one ones mind) the evil we must make money, USA stock Exchange.

   Comment by winter — Mon, Sep 25th, 2006 @ 9:08 pm

2. Re #1: I don’t know where you got the idea that the NYSE - which by no means should be called “USA stock Exchange” - is considered corrupt or evil [1]. Maybe you just invented it. If my memory serves, her excellency [2} has owned stock herself.

   [1] If we’re talking about corrupt and evil New York organizations, the New York Yankees come to mind. Pattijoen Urheilijat could kick their overpaid primadonna asses without breaking sweat.

   [2] We Finns really should start using the phrase “hänen erinomaisuutensa” to refer to sundry politicans. It’d be quite amusing to hear someone call Sepi Kääriäinen that.

   Comment by a lamb with no guiding light — Mon, Sep 25th, 2006 @ 9:41 pm

3. Ring a bell at the most corrupt orginization in the world?

   She’s SDP elite, not plain ol’ SDP - she’s a capitalist and has stocks and all sorts of $$, she just doesn’t want her followers to have these things.

   Comment by Phil — Mon, Sep 25th, 2006 @ 9:50 pm

4. “It’d be quite amusing to hear someone call Sepi Kääriäinen that.”

   Sepi probably doesn’t see any problem. A family name ending with -nen is considered equal to one beginning with ‘von’ in Savo.

   On the bell, come on, it’s 21st century. Even a socialist can do it now. I bet that bell has been rung by even worse enemies of capitalism, than Tarja Halonen. Now, if Taisto Sinisalo had done it in the 70’s, that would have been something.

   Comment by Anonymous — Mon, Sep 25th, 2006 @ 10:18 pm

5. Hmm, she still grew up in Kallio/Berghäll… We do live in a capatalist market economy though I suppose, although it does rather surprise me that she would ring the bell at the NYSE. Still, I suppose it’s good support for all those Nokia shares being traded there.

   Comment by JG — Mon, Sep 25th, 2006 @ 10:19 pm

6. Random fact… I just popped over to NYSEs website. Interesting to see that Finland has 4 companies being traded on NYSE (alongside Nokia also Metso, Stora Enso and UPM) whilst Sweden has zero. We beat Norway and Danmark also.

   I only included that as I believe it should always be pointed out when we are beating Sweden at something , even if I am not exactly the world’s biggest capitalism lover.

   Comment by JG — Mon, Sep 25th, 2006 @ 10:23 pm

7. #3: Another deep analysis by Dr. Phil. Thank you,
   Sir!

   Comment by Jane Doe-Ryynänen — Mon, Sep 25th, 2006 @ 10:25 pm

8. “It’d be quite amusing to hear someone call Sepi Kääriäinen that.”

   Sepi wouldn’t have problem. A family name ending -nen equals to one beginning ‘von’ in Savo.

   Hey, no problem with Tarja ringing the bell. It’s 21st century now. Even a socialist can do it, especially as a president of a mixed economy country. Now if Taisto Sinisalo would have done it in the 70’s, that would have been something.

   Comment by Antti (the redneck one) — Mon, Sep 25th, 2006 @ 10:38 pm

9. First of all Phil, thanks for linking me once again. One thing that you can be relied on 100% is to always site your sources. It is much appreciated.

   As for Sweden not having any companies on the NYSE. Ericsson and Volvo trade on the Nasdaq which is part of the NYSE group.

   As for Norway, I lost a bundle of money today in the Norwegian market and am never touching that bloody market again.

   We Finns beat the Danes, because they are not big on investing in equities anyway. They prefore bond investing using leverage.

   Comment by Jukka — Mon, Sep 25th, 2006 @ 11:14 pm

10. Actually, it fits the welfare philosophy. Big businesses are needed to fund the welfare state. Small businesses are undesirable.

    Comment by Kristian (in Espoo) — Mon, Sep 25th, 2006 @ 11:26 pm

11. What, stocks are up 67 points. Send her back for another ring. You guys keep Al Gore, we will take “Her Excellency Tarja Kaarina Halonen”.

    What a trade.

    Comment by winter — Mon, Sep 25th, 2006 @ 11:31 pm

12. I think you are confusing Christians with Social democrats. Social democrats are allowed to get rich.

    Comment by Erik — Mon, Sep 25th, 2006 @ 11:43 pm

13. Ok, my failure Jukka. I know not so much about the NYSE. Perhaps the website I looked at just relates to their core exchange. Can we at least pretend we beat them?
    http://www.nyse.com/about/listed/6.html?country=Finland&ListedComp=All

    Comment by JG — Tue, Sep 26th, 2006 @ 12:24 am

14. Really, this is far too silly - shouldn’t you at least know something about the things you criticize? It just makes these arguments so light weight that one is sorry to see all this traffic here. That’s the downside of the Net: competency is not necessary.

    Comment by mjr — Tue, Sep 26th, 2006 @ 6:04 am

15. According to Wikipedia using His/Her Excellency as a title for Presidents of republics (among others) is standard UN practice, which NYSE seems to follow as well. It does sound funny to a Finnish though. Should H.E. Halonen insist on keeping that title back in Finland, I think she’d be just about ready for some special institution.

    Comment by Pasi — Tue, Sep 26th, 2006 @ 7:30 am

16. #10 Christians are allowed to get rich too. Isn’t it their “god given right to prosper”? At least that’s what the popular opinion is today among American Christians!

    Comment by - — Tue, Sep 26th, 2006 @ 11:58 am

17. When Christ returns, the American Christians indeed have some surprises in store for him, haven’t they?

    Comment by N. Siinistö — Tue, Sep 26th, 2006 @ 1:04 pm

18. #12 Couldn’t agree more. This just screams special education. WOW! Well, anybody can have a blog and that’s just what this is anybody’s blog.

    Comment by concernedforyoureductionlevel — Tue, Sep 26th, 2006 @ 2:34 pm

19. Too bad I wasn’t there to see it, would have been fun.
    Jeez, why is everybody so anal about the stock exchange?

    Comment by stercus — Tue, Sep 26th, 2006 @ 4:15 pm

20. #10 Christians are allowed to get rich too. Isn’t it their “god given right to prosper”? At least that’s what the popular opinion is today among American Christians!

    Not enly allowed, American Christians in particular are expected to. If you don’t make shitloads of money in this lifetime, it’s time for perpetual roasting in the next one.

    Comment by Freeridin' Franklin — Tue, Sep 26th, 2006 @ 8:14 pm

21. #20 yeah, well they have the true Christian George W leading the way….

    Comment by - — Tue, Sep 26th, 2006 @ 10:11 pm

22. Well, If I remember, the Calvinists believe that your faith brings blessings in a form of material good already in this life. Martin Luther was more a pragmatist. You don’t have to be piss-poor to go to heaven, but you shouldn’t dedicate your life for raking stuff.

    St.Augustinus of the Catholics then was ready to help thieves to rob his house and free set him from his earthly possessions. I think poverty is also high-rated in the Orthodox church

    Comment by Antti (the redneck one) — Tue, Sep 26th, 2006 @ 10:32 pm

23. Not sure what the fuss is here about HE. It’s standard practice in formal address nearly everywhere else except the US, and the US Ambassador here in Helsinki, too, is addressed formally - like all the other ambassadors - as His/Her Excellency (even though recent holders of the post have usually been rather more “His/Her Major Contributor to the Presidential War-Chest” or “His/Her Big Collecting-Tin Rattler” than career diplomats worthy of the title).

    O tempore o mores.

    Comment by Your Fatitude — Wed, Sep 27th, 2006 @ 1:02 am

24. reminder

    http://www.oldamericancentury.org/listening.jpg

    Comment by sorry — Wed, Sep 27th, 2006 @ 10:47 am

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