LOL…i guess it should read “Finns Hits” but as one word ‘finn shits (music to get drunk by)’ it’s pure comedy. *snerk* I wonder why half the songs are $name langalla.

So fess up, did you kick some drunks or something? Some of them can be dangerous around these parts….a woman we both know was kicked by a passing drunk on Bulevardi a while back for no apparent reason and there’s always a knife fight on the weekends out in front of the Juntti bar up the street.

Not at all, that is meant to be funny. Eri vesittäjiä means something like “they do it wrong”, and it’s originally “different performers”. Jope Ruonansuu is a comedian.

It was like 2am at “JR Fast Food” (an Elvis themed fast food joint) and three loud, annoying drunks must have heard me speaking English and decided to pick on the foreigner. So I decided to throw fuel onto the fire and started starring at them in an agressive manner.

“Finns Hits” doesn’t mean anything, does it. And, sure, Jope Ruonansuu is a famous misspeller not a comedian. And sure there is “always a knife fight” going on where you live. Here’s an interesting survey (in Finnish but there is a map):
http://www.hel2.fi/tietokeskus/julkaisut/pdf/Suunnat2005-3.pdf#search=%22katuv%C3%A4kivalta%20helsingiss%C3%A4%22

According to this international study (not Finnish, that is) Helsinki is the second safest city in the world (obviously among the the bigger cities that were included in the study).

Sure, Finnshits is making parody of Finnhits. Another question is, whether it is really necessary to make any parody of Frederik et al. performing on those Finnhits albums.

Finnhits are crucial part of the Kekkoslovakian soundlandscape. I heard they tend to play the old 70′s DDR hits (such as Ich beobachte dich) also in the eastern Germany at some stage of the parties.

Did you get your arse handed to you then?

Phil…oooh, staring at them…:) The drunk who kicked the person we know also likely did it because she’s an obvious foreigner without speaking.

And, anonymous…just because it’s the so-called ‘second safest’ doesn’t mean dumb drunks don’t wave their knives at each other. Doesn’t Finland lead the EU in drunken homicide by knife? I’ll wait for someone to find the stats.fi report showing that Finland has statistically the friendliest drunks around….:)

he so-called ’second safest’

I’m always impressed by your superior counter-arguments: “I happen to know the truth, Finland is a dangerous place, so all studies saying anything different must be wrong, and I’m entitled to belittle them”.

Phil…oooh, staring at them…:) The drunk who kicked the person we know also likely did it because she’s an obvious foreigner without speaking.

I gotta try speaking loudly in Finnish in some redneck bar somewhere south one day to measure American tolerance for foreigners. Maybe I’ll report it on my blog later.

Methinks drunken idiots are pretty much the same all over the world.

And, anonymous…just because it’s the so-called ’second safest’ doesn’t mean dumb drunks don’t wave their knives at each other.

The crux of the matter is that they mostly do it among themselves. I’m all for the activity, as long as they make sure that they manage to stab fatally.

What’s really weird is I met Jope because he was the best friend of one of my host fathers, and I have that CD..not that I like it, I just have it.

Methinks drunken idiots are pretty much the same all over the world.

Quoted for truth.

The main difference is that Finns tolerate drunken, aggressive behavior. Sure, American drunks get aggressive, too. The difference is they get thrown out of the bar and/or the police are called.

Ah, but the thing is Finns don’t “tolerate” it – they just have to live with the consequences.
a) police don’t care/too busy to come
b) guy gets pissed off and comes back with a shotgun

But I see people thrown out of bars all the time.

Freeridin’ – Try it, though as long as you aren’t a Mexican, they’ll probably irritate the shit out of you by pulling up a chair and talking your ear off wondering where Finland is and if there are any hot chicks there. The downside is that the Southern hicks subsist mostly on Bud and Dixie beer so you might want to try it a little further north with a better beer selection.

Anonymous – ‘so called’ because statistics lie and I do find the constant reliance here on these studies to refute things as being untrue a bit tedious. Sure, it’s a safer place than lots of other cities, but that doesn’t mean you can’t get stabbed, robbed or raped by some dumb, angry drunk sometime, especially down here in the center where most of the crime in Helsinki happens.

#13 You’re probably right about people in bars getting thrown out sometimes if they’re actually starting shit with people. On the other hand, if they can’t even stand up straight and they’re not fighting anyone no one seems to care…

I do find the constant reliance here on these studies to refute things as being untrue a bit tedious.

If I hated a country and found that statsitics after statistics would rank it among the best, yes, I would find it a bit tedious too.

If I hated a country and found that statsitics after statistics would rank it among the best, yes, I would find it a bit tedious too.

If you don’t like a place, statistics don’t help. It’s a very good idea to get out lest you become completely psychotic like this guy.

Anonymous – Your bitterness might be better met if the statistics that weren’t so glowing about Finland got equal mention and weight. I’ve never said I hated Finland and I usually have much harsher things to say about the US…it’s just that you and yours are so willing to hate anyone who has something critical to say that it’s all you see.

you and yours are so willing to hate anyone who has something critical to say

That’s apparently one of your bigoted ideas: “I just tell that the Finnish culture is a culture of drunks who constatnly fight with their knives, and these Finns can’t accapt the truth because they can’t handle criticism”.

That’s bullshit of course. I, for one, have got no problems with criticism. But I do have a problem with bigoted stereotypes, not to mention outright lies. You got me there.

Mut nysse on moro!

Well, we are in the other extreme now. In the 70′s and even 80′s you needed a tie to get into many restaurants. You had to order something to eat with your beer. After your third beer the bouncer could come suggesting “Aren’t we had enough for tonight”. Talking or laughing too loud was a reason to get thrown out not to talk about the ultimate outrage of shouting something to the other table.

Heck, I should start Bar Kekkoslovakia, where all the old regulations were followed with utmost punctuality and the personnel makes sure nobody is visiting with the intention of getting drunk.

Anonymous – Outright lies? Uh…such as? Hey Hank, didn’t you mention you nearly got mugged a few weeks back down in my neighbourhood instead out in your safe backwater known as Vantaa?

And bigoted stereotypes…hey, we’re not the country where an unsubstantiated tabloid news comment Chirac allegedly made about a local politician leads the news as an outrage….not to mention the previous year+ old comment about the food that still gets press on a regular basis. Any criticism gets your panties in a bunch. I do believe I said that drunks aren’t always harmless and there is a knife fight out on the sidewalk every weekend in the dive bar up the street. Usually they are too drunk for the follow-through….not, as you said…”Finnish culture is a culture of drunks who constatnly fight with their knives”.

Antti – If that would be a place where a woman could be left alone at the table without some barely standing drunk dude coming up to try to sit down and chat them up, it would probably be a popular place.

My Swedish uncle (who lives in Sweden) tells me that ‘Finns fight with knives’ is an age-old stereotype that Swedes have of Finns.

I guess I need to tell him that it’s actually true

Kristian – well….I can’t find the report that broke down homicides by type and by weapon but it used to be that Finland was #1 in homicides before the Baltics were allowed into the EU last year and death by drunken knife stab was the most popular way to go. I don’t think that’s a stereotype. There was a scene in ‘paha maa’ (I think that was the title) where some really drunk hoover salesman bludgeons a copulating couple to death but he probably just didn’t have a knife with him as why sully the product?

I was surprised to find that Helsinki has a higher per 100k person homicide rate than London and other larger, more international capitals. http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs2/hosb502.pdf

I was surprised to find that Helsinki has a higher per 100k person homicide rate than London and other larger, more international capitals

As usual: complete bullshit, read the study! … or do you have to? After all you saw somthing different on TV.

Any criticism gets your panties in a bunch.

No bigoted stereotypes whatsoever, it’s just that all Finns get their panties in a bunch over any criticism.

(No panties in a bunch here, save my old lady’s dirty ones in the laundry basket)

And yes, stereotypes often have an element of truth to them.

Anon- which is bullshit…the study or my surprise? That was only one of a number of different studies that showed the same results. What, only the ones with positive results/stats aren’t bullshit? I think there was an abstract of one research study out of a local university that showed Finland had a high level of violent crime that has changed little over the past 50 years. Until the Baltics joined the EU, Finland was the top of the homicide per capita stats in the EU.

And #25/26 Often more than we’d care to admit to.

And yes, stereotypes often have an element of truth to them.

Yes indeed, we apparenlty agree that all Americans are arrogant loud mouths. What else did you have in mind? Oh yeah, they’re pleased with their widely spread ignorance: “Oh I just love to know nuthin”. Just read hfb, a typical yankee.

To #28 (anonymous):

By not signing your name (or some kind of signature) to your insipid comments only makes you look more stupid than your comments themselves already make you look.

If you took the time to write inflammatory comments, why not take the risk that someone might challenge you personally? Or are you just too scared?

Anonymous in the sandbox: “Waaahh! Make them STOP Momma!”

Uh, uh, that relly hurts. Gee, you’re good. I’ll promise to become a better person right away!

Sorry, forgot to sign.

hfb: did you even read the study you yourself quoted? You need to buy eyeglasses or stop lying. The 2002 figure for London is 2.59 homicides per 100 000 inhabitans. 2.00 in Helsinki. Lots of variation there, but even the 3-year average is smaller in Helsinki than in London. By the way the figure for New York was 8.69.

So what’s your explanation hfb? Too bigoted to notice?

p.s. What was interesting though was that England and Wales have a significantly lower homicide rate overall than Finland and Sweden for example.

“…it used to be that Finland was #1 in homicides before the Baltics were allowed into the EU last year…”

Whether we were actually #1 or not, it makes no difference. I’m just glad the Baltics came to our rescue

“- If that would be a place where a woman could be left alone at the table…”

Heh, If I made it all the way pre-60′s Kekkoslovakian, ladies wouldn’t be allowed to enter without a decent male companion.

hfb:
There was a scene in ‘paha maa’ (I think that was the title) where some really drunk hoover salesman bludgeons a copulating couple to death

Crappy films are definitely the best source of information about a country, I get all my data on the US from them. You forgot to mention how the Finns who do not happen to be violent alcoholics are at least druggies and/or emotionally crippled sex maniacs. I should know, I’ve seen the Levottomat trilogy.

There one thing going for part III: No Samuli Edelmann reptile show, IIRC. We do get flashed by Jasper Pääkkönen, which might be worse.

m – no, mostly skimmed it as I didn’t have a lot of time and I was looking for another study, the official EU stats, that put finland at the top of the homicide chart for a number of years preceeding the admission of the Baltics, but couldn’t find it. One of the tables put violent crime or homicide in Helsinki higher per 100k than London, if only marginally.

Look on the bright side, at least Finland can blame it mostly on drunken idiots instead of the much larger pool of causes the US has.

Freeridin’ – What, are you saying a Finnish movie is crap?! I saw it on cable so I didn’t waste my money on that awful thing. I did find the entire scene where the dude watches the couple fuck on the bed from behind before killing them absurd, amusing and somehow very Finnish in a way. That movie exceeded the national homicide rate in two hours, too.

Ok fair enough. I just hate it when people misquote stuff.

hfb:
Freeridin’ – What, are you saying a Finnish movie is crap?!

Nooooooo!

Here’s how it is: in the late 90s they managed to put together a couple films that people actually wanted to see. Inspired by this, they – especially the Selin crowd – have been cashing in on the boom despite the cow having run dry at least five years ago. Hence the dangling schlong of Samuli Edelmann.

I am a cunt.

” One of the tables put violent crime or homicide in Helsinki higher per 100k than London, if only marginally. ”

So American compares London statistics…last time I checked, it belonged to Brits. Why don’t you compare Washington, DC?

Homicide rates per 100 000:
Helsinki: 2.14
New York: 8.77
Moscow, Russia: 18.20
Pretoria, South Africa: 41.12
and #1: Washington DC: 45.79!

Hfb is a bit like Ethiopian telling Finns what they should wear during wintertime. I mean those US statistics are just so awful and Hfb surely is much safer here than in any major US cities. Hfb, why don’t you consider moving to Moscow, it is still relatively safe

Stupid drunken behavior is a problem here but it is still nothing compared to US crime statistics.

Like I’ve always said, there’s a small, violent African nation attached to every American city.

#21

“…some barely standing drunk dude coming up to try to sit down and chat them up…”

Hey! @&#%

I resemble that comment

tim73 – last time I checked, the US wasn’t part of the EU. Of course, Britain is the 51st state these days and catching up fast.

hfb: Now I get it, you see Europe as one big “london” or soon becoming “london”. Ignorant little shit you are….