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		<title>By: trmadol</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/08/31/gallery-of-modern-finnish-ruins/comment-page-1/#comment-283450</link>
		<dc:creator>trmadol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 16:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Antti (the redneck one)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antti (the redneck one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 10:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, I would say that hamstering junk on your front yard correlates better with 'moonshine' usage in those parts of the country and the habit seems to pass from one generation to the next.

There is this worrisome trend though, that the former moonshine entrepreneurs at the area close to the Russian border are moving into drug imports with marketing and aftersales methods specific to that type of business, ending a certain kind of age of innocense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, I would say that hamstering junk on your front yard correlates better with &#8216;moonshine&#8217; usage in those parts of the country and the habit seems to pass from one generation to the next.</p>
<p>There is this worrisome trend though, that the former moonshine entrepreneurs at the area close to the Russian border are moving into drug imports with marketing and aftersales methods specific to that type of business, ending a certain kind of age of innocense.</p>
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		<title>By: Finnpundit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Finnpundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 22:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>8: &lt;i&gt;All neatly showing on your front yard.&lt;/i&gt;

By the way, that could be an sign that the inhabitant is a meth (or "crank") junkie.

In the Pacific Northwest states, the police started noticing that known crystal meth users often wound up taking cars and other motors apart, and spreading the parts on their yards, in a manic attempt to "clean" and categorize the parts.  When the meth wore off, and the junkie became depressed and lethargic, the parts were left on the lawns to rust.  This was based not only on observation, but testimony from meth users.  The crank somehow affects the brain centers responsible for logistical thinking.

And I do agree about the allure of old industrial areas.  I like to bike around some such districts where I live.  It's fascinating to see how some vibrant businesses just went bust.  Many of these areas are as interesting as an archaeological site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>8: <i>All neatly showing on your front yard.</i></p>
<p>By the way, that could be an sign that the inhabitant is a meth (or &#8220;crank&#8221;) junkie.</p>
<p>In the Pacific Northwest states, the police started noticing that known crystal meth users often wound up taking cars and other motors apart, and spreading the parts on their yards, in a manic attempt to &#8220;clean&#8221; and categorize the parts.  When the meth wore off, and the junkie became depressed and lethargic, the parts were left on the lawns to rust.  This was based not only on observation, but testimony from meth users.  The crank somehow affects the brain centers responsible for logistical thinking.</p>
<p>And I do agree about the allure of old industrial areas.  I like to bike around some such districts where I live.  It&#8217;s fascinating to see how some vibrant businesses just went bust.  Many of these areas are as interesting as an archaeological site.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 18:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Phil, can we have your explanation?&lt;/i&gt;

Relax.  It got caught in my SPAM-guard.  Any comment that has more than 2 links in it gets caught, spammers often include a shitload of links.  I check the SPAM-guard several times per day and release any non-spam.  I don't sensor *ANYTHING* on this blog except SPAM.

Read the text below the "SUBMIT COMMENT" button and you'll see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Phil, can we have your explanation?</i></p>
<p>Relax.  It got caught in my SPAM-guard.  Any comment that has more than 2 links in it gets caught, spammers often include a shitload of links.  I check the SPAM-guard several times per day and release any non-spam.  I don&#8217;t sensor *ANYTHING* on this blog except SPAM.</p>
<p>Read the text below the &#8220;SUBMIT COMMENT&#8221; button and you&#8217;ll see.</p>
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		<title>By: Antti (the redneck one)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antti (the redneck one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 12:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a typical protestant mindset the firewood piles should stand straight and everything should be neat and clean, so the people are a bit uneasy of Aki KaurismÃƒÂ¤ki et al. showing our junkyard side. KaurismÃƒÂ¤ki seems to go to great lengths in creation of his Akilandia atmosphere. In the film "Kauas pilvet karkaavat" the tram depot was "played" by at least 3 or 4 different buildings.

Afterall, these kinds of milieus are more prominent in Russia and perhaps in the eastern Finland, which is another reason for being uneasy. Typical eastern Finnish junkyard consists of 5-10 cars of one manufacturer, which are cannibalized for the spare parts for the car, that is still in daily use, various household and farming machines and everything you can buy at the surplus auction of the Road Maintenance Department. All neatly showing on your front yard.   

I think it is really great, that someone takes the trouble to record the final phases of some old industrial sites and even finds out some of their history. Afterall, many people have spent their working life there. It is like some buddhist Mandala. Engineers and architects use the best fruits of western scientific-technological civilization and after some decades, it's all wiped out. In the electronics industry, it's even quicker. Probably all the Nokia phones with some of my handwriting in them are now rotting in the garbage dump.

I'm living on the edge of an abandoned sawmill area and there are plenty of places there to enjoy the aesthetics of decay. I don't go there too often though, as the ground is probably saturated by arsenic and dioxine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a typical protestant mindset the firewood piles should stand straight and everything should be neat and clean, so the people are a bit uneasy of Aki KaurismÃƒÂ¤ki et al. showing our junkyard side. KaurismÃƒÂ¤ki seems to go to great lengths in creation of his Akilandia atmosphere. In the film &#8220;Kauas pilvet karkaavat&#8221; the tram depot was &#8220;played&#8221; by at least 3 or 4 different buildings.</p>
<p>Afterall, these kinds of milieus are more prominent in Russia and perhaps in the eastern Finland, which is another reason for being uneasy. Typical eastern Finnish junkyard consists of 5-10 cars of one manufacturer, which are cannibalized for the spare parts for the car, that is still in daily use, various household and farming machines and everything you can buy at the surplus auction of the Road Maintenance Department. All neatly showing on your front yard.   </p>
<p>I think it is really great, that someone takes the trouble to record the final phases of some old industrial sites and even finds out some of their history. Afterall, many people have spent their working life there. It is like some buddhist Mandala. Engineers and architects use the best fruits of western scientific-technological civilization and after some decades, it&#8217;s all wiped out. In the electronics industry, it&#8217;s even quicker. Probably all the Nokia phones with some of my handwriting in them are now rotting in the garbage dump.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m living on the edge of an abandoned sawmill area and there are plenty of places there to enjoy the aesthetics of decay. I don&#8217;t go there too often though, as the ground is probably saturated by arsenic and dioxine.</p>
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		<title>By: Well, well</title>
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		<dc:creator>Well, well</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 08:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil, you are obviously having now problems with free speech. Or is it the "American version" of free speech? Hypocratical and double standard?

Where did the 'American ruins' post go? Did you find something insensitive in it? Was there incitement of inter-racial violence in it?

I think not.

I think there was some unpleasant views of the USA, combined with opinions of reasons leading to that condition. Why can't you let people see them and discuss about them?

Phil, if this is your modus operandi, then you have very little credibity on criticising some ill points fo Finland. There definitely are many of them. I have also noted certain selective pattern of your activity, as you seem to go after our left's politicians in a ways that seem to been taught by others here in Finland.

Phil, can we have your explanation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil, you are obviously having now problems with free speech. Or is it the &#8220;American version&#8221; of free speech? Hypocratical and double standard?</p>
<p>Where did the &#8216;American ruins&#8217; post go? Did you find something insensitive in it? Was there incitement of inter-racial violence in it?</p>
<p>I think not.</p>
<p>I think there was some unpleasant views of the USA, combined with opinions of reasons leading to that condition. Why can&#8217;t you let people see them and discuss about them?</p>
<p>Phil, if this is your modus operandi, then you have very little credibity on criticising some ill points fo Finland. There definitely are many of them. I have also noted certain selective pattern of your activity, as you seem to go after our left&#8217;s politicians in a ways that seem to been taught by others here in Finland.</p>
<p>Phil, can we have your explanation?</p>
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		<title>By: Check these out!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Check these out!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 17:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howdy!

http://white-history.com/hwrdet.htm
http://white-history.com/hwrnyc.htm
http://white-history.com/hwrwdc.htm
http://white-history.com/hwrnew.htm
http://white-history.com/hwrphilly.htm
http://white-history.com/hwrstlou.htm

Nice pics, eh? Philly?

Amerikka is still #1 even in the 'ruins' respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howdy!</p>
<p><a href="http://white-history.com/hwrdet.htm" rel="nofollow">http://white-history.com/hwrdet.htm</a><br />
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<p>Nice pics, eh? Philly?</p>
<p>Amerikka is still #1 even in the &#8216;ruins&#8217; respect.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 07:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, those photos are so interesting! I really liked the one of the abandoned house that still had stuff in it...sort of creepy, but fascinating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, those photos are so interesting! I really liked the one of the abandoned house that still had stuff in it&#8230;sort of creepy, but fascinating.</p>
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		<title>By: Kat (ilikepeanutbutter)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kat (ilikepeanutbutter)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 19:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh huh, someone must of read my post on FinlandForum :P lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh huh, someone must of read my post on FinlandForum <img src='http://www.finlandforthought.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> lol</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of my favorites are the ones from the modern day Chernobyl.  It is very creepy looking at the abandon buildings and overgrown nature and knowing that there is nothing there anymore and it is completely deserted.  Weird feeling.  I think the site is kiddofspeed.com or something like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of my favorites are the ones from the modern day Chernobyl.  It is very creepy looking at the abandon buildings and overgrown nature and knowing that there is nothing there anymore and it is completely deserted.  Weird feeling.  I think the site is kiddofspeed.com or something like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, that is really creepy!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that is really creepy!!</p>
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		<title>By: Boyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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