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	<title>Comments on: Finland, a nation of security junkies</title>
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		<title>By: BadGirl55</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/08/16/finland-a-nation-of-security-junkies/comment-page-2/#comment-375531</link>
		<dc:creator>BadGirl55</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Family meetings begin with the   family team members being introduced to each other. ,</description>
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		<title>By: EU-civil servant</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/08/16/finland-a-nation-of-security-junkies/comment-page-2/#comment-80596</link>
		<dc:creator>EU-civil servant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Aug 2006 14:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh come on! You are not serious with this one! That is one of the &quot;MAIN STUPIDITIES FROM THE US&quot; that Europeans frowns upon: the over-neurotic carefulness towards anything that may hurt. 
Rear mirror: &quot;The objects may seem to be further than what they actually are&quot;. 
Coffee-mug: &quot;Be careful, coffee is hot&quot;, etc. etc. And the funny part is all the lawsuits as being a cause to this neurosis. &quot;I didn&#039;t know that I shouldn&#039;t put my cat inside the microwave open&quot;, &quot;Oh, so inhaling cigarettes is killing me, let&#039;s sue the company&quot;. 

Besides, the other &quot;stupidities&quot;, stereotypes you may call, are:
Fat mac-Americans,
Unfashionable nike-Americans,
Stuck-up and lousy Americans,
and yes &quot;not that worldly&quot; Americans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh come on! You are not serious with this one! That is one of the &#8220;MAIN STUPIDITIES FROM THE US&#8221; that Europeans frowns upon: the over-neurotic carefulness towards anything that may hurt.<br />
Rear mirror: &#8220;The objects may seem to be further than what they actually are&#8221;.<br />
Coffee-mug: &#8220;Be careful, coffee is hot&#8221;, etc. etc. And the funny part is all the lawsuits as being a cause to this neurosis. &#8220;I didn&#8217;t know that I shouldn&#8217;t put my cat inside the microwave open&#8221;, &#8220;Oh, so inhaling cigarettes is killing me, let&#8217;s sue the company&#8221;. </p>
<p>Besides, the other &#8220;stupidities&#8221;, stereotypes you may call, are:<br />
Fat mac-Americans,<br />
Unfashionable nike-Americans,<br />
Stuck-up and lousy Americans,<br />
and yes &#8220;not that worldly&#8221; Americans.</p>
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		<title>By: prince of dorkness</title>
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		<dc:creator>prince of dorkness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 09:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@78,
OK, I&#039;ll start wearing mine. I knew all this, but the helmet is uncomfortable, especially in hot weather. Not like a safety belt (although I do know people who claim it takes valuable seconds of their time to put the belt on so they don&#039;t). Maybe there are better models available, I&#039;ll shop around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@78,<br />
OK, I&#8217;ll start wearing mine. I knew all this, but the helmet is uncomfortable, especially in hot weather. Not like a safety belt (although I do know people who claim it takes valuable seconds of their time to put the belt on so they don&#8217;t). Maybe there are better models available, I&#8217;ll shop around.</p>
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		<title>By: Fat Bastard</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/08/16/finland-a-nation-of-security-junkies/comment-page-2/#comment-79138</link>
		<dc:creator>Fat Bastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 08:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just noticed this thread and since I have first hand experience with bicycle accidents, I&#039;ll give you my 2 cents.

Helmets are EXTREMELY useful. Let me specify.

In 1999 I was riding my cycle in Torkkelinmäki when a woman opened her car door right into my path. I flipped over the handle bar and landed on my neck. Without my helmet I would probably have suffered a very serious injury. The helmet was shattered.

A couple of weeks later, before I had managed to buy a new helmet, I had a collision with another cyclist, who came around a corner on a pedestrian lane. I don&#039;t remember anything about the accident, but when I woke up, I was lying in a pool of my blood. I lost 4 teeth and had 24 stitches put in my mouth in the ER. The two front teeth in my lower jaw went through my lip and damaged it pretty badly. I lost all feeling in the left side of my mouth for over a year. I also had an internal tear from my upper jaw to the nasal cavity.

Now, 7 years later, I&#039;m finishing up my tooth implant treatments. It has cost my insurance company a LOT more than a new helmet would have, not to mention all the pain and suffering I have experienced.

So don&#039;t tell me helmets should be voluntary. You could buy hundreds of helmets with the money caused by just one accident. I still see people riding bikes without helmets and can only guess what rationalizations they use for that. Maybe I should publish my injury photos for them to illustrate their (and my) stupidity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just noticed this thread and since I have first hand experience with bicycle accidents, I&#8217;ll give you my 2 cents.</p>
<p>Helmets are EXTREMELY useful. Let me specify.</p>
<p>In 1999 I was riding my cycle in Torkkelinmäki when a woman opened her car door right into my path. I flipped over the handle bar and landed on my neck. Without my helmet I would probably have suffered a very serious injury. The helmet was shattered.</p>
<p>A couple of weeks later, before I had managed to buy a new helmet, I had a collision with another cyclist, who came around a corner on a pedestrian lane. I don&#8217;t remember anything about the accident, but when I woke up, I was lying in a pool of my blood. I lost 4 teeth and had 24 stitches put in my mouth in the ER. The two front teeth in my lower jaw went through my lip and damaged it pretty badly. I lost all feeling in the left side of my mouth for over a year. I also had an internal tear from my upper jaw to the nasal cavity.</p>
<p>Now, 7 years later, I&#8217;m finishing up my tooth implant treatments. It has cost my insurance company a LOT more than a new helmet would have, not to mention all the pain and suffering I have experienced.</p>
<p>So don&#8217;t tell me helmets should be voluntary. You could buy hundreds of helmets with the money caused by just one accident. I still see people riding bikes without helmets and can only guess what rationalizations they use for that. Maybe I should publish my injury photos for them to illustrate their (and my) stupidity.</p>
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		<title>By: Helsinkian</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/08/16/finland-a-nation-of-security-junkies/comment-page-2/#comment-78573</link>
		<dc:creator>Helsinkian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Columbus landed at Puerto Rico in 1493 and Juan Ponce de LeÃƒÂ³n in Florida in 1519.

Interestingly, in 1819, as the US got Florida from Spain, the Adams-OnÃƒÂ­s treaty also included a provision that the US would keep hands off Texas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adams-On%C3%ADs_Treaty

Puerto Rico was invaded by the US in the Spanish-American war of 1898.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Columbus landed at Puerto Rico in 1493 and Juan Ponce de LeÃƒÂ³n in Florida in 1519.</p>
<p>Interestingly, in 1819, as the US got Florida from Spain, the Adams-OnÃƒÂ­s treaty also included a provision that the US would keep hands off Texas.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adams-On%C3%ADs_Treaty" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adams-On%C3%ADs_Treaty</a></p>
<p>Puerto Rico was invaded by the US in the Spanish-American war of 1898.</p>
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		<title>By: Helsinkian</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/08/16/finland-a-nation-of-security-junkies/comment-page-2/#comment-78530</link>
		<dc:creator>Helsinkian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those who don&#039;t know, Jeb Bush and his wife Columba have three half-Anglo, half-Mexican children: George P. Bush, Noelle Bush and John Ellis Bush Jr. (aka Jeb Jr. aka Jebby).

Of these George P. Bush, a Dallas lawyer (with a Juris Doctor degree from the University of Texas) is expected to become a politician. Noelle has been in trouble with the law several times, in and out of rehab due to her substance abuse problem. Jebby was caught in 2000 having public sex at a mall parking lot and arrested in 2005 and charged for public intoxication and resisting arrest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_P._Bush
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noelle_Bush
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeb_Bush%2C_Jr.

I guess their fates are interesting as they are grappling with both their Bush heritage and with their half-immigrant identity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who don&#8217;t know, Jeb Bush and his wife Columba have three half-Anglo, half-Mexican children: George P. Bush, Noelle Bush and John Ellis Bush Jr. (aka Jeb Jr. aka Jebby).</p>
<p>Of these George P. Bush, a Dallas lawyer (with a Juris Doctor degree from the University of Texas) is expected to become a politician. Noelle has been in trouble with the law several times, in and out of rehab due to her substance abuse problem. Jebby was caught in 2000 having public sex at a mall parking lot and arrested in 2005 and charged for public intoxication and resisting arrest.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_P._Bush" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_P._Bush</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noelle_Bush" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noelle_Bush</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeb_Bush%2C_Jr" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeb_Bush%2C_Jr</a>.</p>
<p>I guess their fates are interesting as they are grappling with both their Bush heritage and with their half-immigrant identity.</p>
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		<title>By: Helsinkian</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/08/16/finland-a-nation-of-security-junkies/comment-page-2/#comment-78523</link>
		<dc:creator>Helsinkian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My feeling is that the US government is relatively pro-Hispanic. The Hispanic vote has been very crucial in deciding elections in recent years. The Cubans in Miami are known to be staunchly Republican people of conservative values to a great part and Gov. Jeb Bush of Florida is married to a Mexican.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_P._Huntington

Prof. Huntington of &quot;Clash of Civilizations&quot; fame has written a book called &quot;Who Are We? The Challenges to America&#039;s National Identity&quot; (2004) that celebrates the Anglo-Protestant identity of the US and is generally a pamphlet against Hispanic immigration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My feeling is that the US government is relatively pro-Hispanic. The Hispanic vote has been very crucial in deciding elections in recent years. The Cubans in Miami are known to be staunchly Republican people of conservative values to a great part and Gov. Jeb Bush of Florida is married to a Mexican.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_P._Huntington" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_P._Huntington</a></p>
<p>Prof. Huntington of &#8220;Clash of Civilizations&#8221; fame has written a book called &#8220;Who Are We? The Challenges to America&#8217;s National Identity&#8221; (2004) that celebrates the Anglo-Protestant identity of the US and is generally a pamphlet against Hispanic immigration.</p>
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		<title>By: tomia</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/08/16/finland-a-nation-of-security-junkies/comment-page-2/#comment-78508</link>
		<dc:creator>tomia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 11:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting result came to mind form &quot;Freakonomics&quot; 
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/006073132X/sr=1-1/qid=1155812352/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-3104386-9518242?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books 

There is this quiz game show &quot;The Weakest Link&quot; (Heikoin lenkki). Levitt refers to a study where somebody looked through all episodes and then made some calculations. It turned out that (American) players &quot;eliminated&quot; black co-players less often than other players, whatever their statistical level of knowledge was. Apparently fear of &quot;looking like racist&quot; in front of cameras is deeply rooted. On the other hand, &quot;Hispanic&quot; players were treated the other way around; they were likely to be eliminated whether they did well or not (more often and so on). Obviously some kind of racist or ethnocentric mechanism which the players didn&#039;t consciously notice was at work there.

Anyway, it&#039;s not true that Americans would welcome &quot;Hispanics&quot; with open arms. &quot;Mexifornia: A State of Becoming&quot; is an interesting book on the subject. &quot;Are Illegal Mexican immigrants turning California into the kind of &quot;cleptocracy&quot; Mexico is?&quot;

Fortunately the days when new immigrants could be persecuted pretty freely are over, I think. They don&#039;t need to fear the same kind of fate the Chinese had, for example, or even Finns in some cases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting result came to mind form &#8220;Freakonomics&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/006073132X/sr=1-1/qid=1155812352/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-3104386-9518242?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/006073132X/sr=1-1/qid=1155812352/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-3104386-9518242?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books</a> </p>
<p>There is this quiz game show &#8220;The Weakest Link&#8221; (Heikoin lenkki). Levitt refers to a study where somebody looked through all episodes and then made some calculations. It turned out that (American) players &#8220;eliminated&#8221; black co-players less often than other players, whatever their statistical level of knowledge was. Apparently fear of &#8220;looking like racist&#8221; in front of cameras is deeply rooted. On the other hand, &#8220;Hispanic&#8221; players were treated the other way around; they were likely to be eliminated whether they did well or not (more often and so on). Obviously some kind of racist or ethnocentric mechanism which the players didn&#8217;t consciously notice was at work there.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s not true that Americans would welcome &#8220;Hispanics&#8221; with open arms. &#8220;Mexifornia: A State of Becoming&#8221; is an interesting book on the subject. &#8220;Are Illegal Mexican immigrants turning California into the kind of &#8220;cleptocracy&#8221; Mexico is?&#8221;</p>
<p>Fortunately the days when new immigrants could be persecuted pretty freely are over, I think. They don&#8217;t need to fear the same kind of fate the Chinese had, for example, or even Finns in some cases.</p>
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		<title>By: Akseli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Akseli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 11:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Supposedly you haven&#039;t been to Japan, yet. &quot;Step into the metro after melody ends&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Supposedly you haven&#8217;t been to Japan, yet. &#8220;Step into the metro after melody ends&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Helsinkian</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/08/16/finland-a-nation-of-security-junkies/comment-page-2/#comment-78484</link>
		<dc:creator>Helsinkian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the more successful Spanish Americans is Senator Ken Salazar of Colorado. His family has lived in the San Luis Valley of Colorado for generations. It&#039;s true that they came there via Mexico and not directly from Spain but Senator Salazar can trace his ancestry all the way to 12th Century Spain.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Salazar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the more successful Spanish Americans is Senator Ken Salazar of Colorado. His family has lived in the San Luis Valley of Colorado for generations. It&#8217;s true that they came there via Mexico and not directly from Spain but Senator Salazar can trace his ancestry all the way to 12th Century Spain.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Salazar" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Salazar</a></p>
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		<title>By: Helsinkian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helsinkian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Mayflower didn&#039;t bring the first English immigrants. Neither was I claiming that the Spanish speakers of New Mexico were the first Spanish immigrants.

My point was that ancestry is usually traced to the Mayflower. New Mexicans are also known for their ancestry and their ability to keep the Spanish language alive, despite the rest of America opting for English.

If you think of a Spanish speaker in Florida, the sterotype is a Cuban immigrant in Miami. If you think of a Spanish speaker in New York, the stereotype is a Puerto Rican immigrant. If you think of a Spanish speaker in California or Texas, the stereotype may very well be a Mexican immigrant.

But in New Mexico the stereotype of a Spanish speaker is someone with ancestry who descends from Spaniards, not Mexicans. I simply wanted to point out that there are old Spanish American families and one US state where Spanish has never been seen as a foreign language or as the language of immigrants who have come first after the Anglos.

I find the correspondence of the Spanish speakers of New Mexico to the WASPs in New England a fascinating question. The Mayflower is a legend above all and in the same way the founding of New Mexico is not significant for what it itself was but for the epic poem that it inspired. That epic was published ten years before The Mayflower even arrived.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Mayflower didn&#8217;t bring the first English immigrants. Neither was I claiming that the Spanish speakers of New Mexico were the first Spanish immigrants.</p>
<p>My point was that ancestry is usually traced to the Mayflower. New Mexicans are also known for their ancestry and their ability to keep the Spanish language alive, despite the rest of America opting for English.</p>
<p>If you think of a Spanish speaker in Florida, the sterotype is a Cuban immigrant in Miami. If you think of a Spanish speaker in New York, the stereotype is a Puerto Rican immigrant. If you think of a Spanish speaker in California or Texas, the stereotype may very well be a Mexican immigrant.</p>
<p>But in New Mexico the stereotype of a Spanish speaker is someone with ancestry who descends from Spaniards, not Mexicans. I simply wanted to point out that there are old Spanish American families and one US state where Spanish has never been seen as a foreign language or as the language of immigrants who have come first after the Anglos.</p>
<p>I find the correspondence of the Spanish speakers of New Mexico to the WASPs in New England a fascinating question. The Mayflower is a legend above all and in the same way the founding of New Mexico is not significant for what it itself was but for the epic poem that it inspired. That epic was published ten years before The Mayflower even arrived.</p>
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		<title>By: tomia</title>
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		<dc:creator>tomia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Helsinkian, what has Mayflower to do with it? I seem to remeber that Jamestown was founded earlier and weren&#039;t there Spaniards in Florida even before that. 

Well, yes, many Americans themselves wish to trace their &quot;ancestry&quot; to those Puritans but it has very little to do with historical facts. Englishmen beat Finns with eigth years, though.

By the way, does anybody understand what Finnpundit is saying? Everything he writes seems to make little or no sense ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helsinkian, what has Mayflower to do with it? I seem to remeber that Jamestown was founded earlier and weren&#8217;t there Spaniards in Florida even before that. </p>
<p>Well, yes, many Americans themselves wish to trace their &#8220;ancestry&#8221; to those Puritans but it has very little to do with historical facts. Englishmen beat Finns with eigth years, though.</p>
<p>By the way, does anybody understand what Finnpundit is saying? Everything he writes seems to make little or no sense &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Helsinkian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helsinkian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 09:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nuevo MÃƒÂ©xico was apparently founded in 1598:

http://www.unmpress.com/Book.php?id=10122435137945

In 1610 a travel journal called &quot;Historia de Nueva MÃƒÂ©xico&quot; was published. It&#039;s an epic poem about the founding of Nuevo MÃƒÂ©xico.

The Mayflower arrived in the New World in 1620. I wonder if some of the Spanish-speakers of New Mexico could trace their ancestry to the founding of their great state (former Spanish colony of Nuevo MÃƒÂ©xico). At least many of the Spanish-speakers of New Mexico have lived there before the Anglos arrived and have kept the Spanish language alive for centuries. New Mexico has no official language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nuevo MÃƒÂ©xico was apparently founded in 1598:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.unmpress.com/Book.php?id=10122435137945" rel="nofollow">http://www.unmpress.com/Book.php?id=10122435137945</a></p>
<p>In 1610 a travel journal called &#8220;Historia de Nueva MÃƒÂ©xico&#8221; was published. It&#8217;s an epic poem about the founding of Nuevo MÃƒÂ©xico.</p>
<p>The Mayflower arrived in the New World in 1620. I wonder if some of the Spanish-speakers of New Mexico could trace their ancestry to the founding of their great state (former Spanish colony of Nuevo MÃƒÂ©xico). At least many of the Spanish-speakers of New Mexico have lived there before the Anglos arrived and have kept the Spanish language alive for centuries. New Mexico has no official language.</p>
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		<title>By: prince of dorkness</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/08/16/finland-a-nation-of-security-junkies/comment-page-2/#comment-78393</link>
		<dc:creator>prince of dorkness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 07:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@67,
&#039;several decades&#039;? You mean there have been Hispanics in El Pueblo de Nuestra SeÃƒÂ±ora la Reina de los Angeles del RÃƒÂ­o de PorciÃƒÂºncula (AKA LA) for that long? Your command of history is, as always, impressive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@67,<br />
&#8216;several decades&#8217;? You mean there have been Hispanics in El Pueblo de Nuestra SeÃƒÂ±ora la Reina de los Angeles del RÃƒÂ­o de PorciÃƒÂºncula (AKA LA) for that long? Your command of history is, as always, impressive.</p>
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		<title>By: Finnpundit</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/08/16/finland-a-nation-of-security-junkies/comment-page-2/#comment-78377</link>
		<dc:creator>Finnpundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 06:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I suppose you wonÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t complain when Mexican immigrants want you to speak Spanish either, right?&lt;/i&gt;

Oh, Hispanics have been speaking Spanish for several decades in the US, as have the Chinese, the Koreans, the Finns, and whoevernot.  If Europeans think this is a scary scenario for Americans, then it only points out their own fears, because loss of cultural identity through loss of language is more of a threat to Europe than for the US.

In the end, English survives because it is the language of business. If Spanish all of a sudden became the language of the business world, then Americans would rush to adapt to that change; - Europe would not, and, - of course - lag behind in development as a result, as always.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I suppose you wonÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t complain when Mexican immigrants want you to speak Spanish either, right?</i></p>
<p>Oh, Hispanics have been speaking Spanish for several decades in the US, as have the Chinese, the Koreans, the Finns, and whoevernot.  If Europeans think this is a scary scenario for Americans, then it only points out their own fears, because loss of cultural identity through loss of language is more of a threat to Europe than for the US.</p>
<p>In the end, English survives because it is the language of business. If Spanish all of a sudden became the language of the business world, then Americans would rush to adapt to that change; &#8211; Europe would not, and, &#8211; of course &#8211; lag behind in development as a result, as always.</p>
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