Comments on: Afrikan Tähti designer dead at 76 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/31/afrikan-tahti-designer-dead-at-76/ Politics, current events, culture - From Finland & United States Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:51:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: oagfublrxt http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/31/afrikan-tahti-designer-dead-at-76/#comment-363696 oagfublrxt Tue, 27 May 2008 15:23:57 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/31/afrikan-tahti-designer-dead-at-76/#comment-363696 kfAaJ2 <a href="http://ymfxxvpfixvt.com/" rel="nofollow">ymfxxvpfixvt</a>, [url=http://zmwqtajxttui.com/]zmwqtajxttui[/url], [link=http://noszdvcfqxir.com/]noszdvcfqxir[/link], http://lvacmggfcsxd.com/ kfAaJ2 ymfxxvpfixvt, [url=http://zmwqtajxttui.com/]zmwqtajxttui[/url], [link=http://noszdvcfqxir.com/]noszdvcfqxir[/link], http://lvacmggfcsxd.com/

]]> By: Cliff http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/31/afrikan-tahti-designer-dead-at-76/#comment-84210 Cliff Sun, 27 Aug 2006 17:06:52 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/31/afrikan-tahti-designer-dead-at-76/#comment-84210 Five years ago, I traded a Klein Bottle to a Finnish mathematician, asking him to send my family something that was completely Finnish. He sent the game of Afrikan Tähti. My two kids loved it; every year we rediscover the game. This morning, as our kids (now 10 & 11) started another game, and we looked up your website and found this sad news. Our game is all the more precious. One question: My son has developed what my daughter claims is a "cheap and almost-cheating" strategy. Instead of going hunting for the Tahti, he looks for a horseshoe. When he finds a horseshoe, he takes the safest path to get close to home. He then just moves back and forth, very close to his home-base in North Africa. As soon as someone else finds the Tahti, he quickly runs home to win (first one back with a horseshoe gets the Tahti). So my kids are arguing- is this a legal game strategy? Warm wishes to all on a cloudy Sunday mornint in Oakland, California, USA! =Cliff Five years ago, I traded a Klein Bottle to a Finnish mathematician, asking him to send my family something that was completely Finnish. He sent the game of Afrikan Tähti. My two kids loved it; every year we rediscover the game. This morning, as our kids (now 10 & 11) started another game, and we looked up your website and found this sad news. Our game is all the more precious.

One question: My son has developed what my daughter claims is a “cheap and almost-cheating” strategy. Instead of going hunting for the Tahti, he looks for a horseshoe. When he finds a horseshoe, he takes the safest path to get close to home. He then just moves back and forth, very close to his home-base in North Africa. As soon as someone else finds the Tahti, he quickly runs home to win (first one back with a horseshoe gets the Tahti). So my kids are arguing- is this a legal game strategy?

Warm wishes to all on a cloudy Sunday mornint in Oakland, California, USA!
=Cliff

]]> By: Finnpundit http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/31/afrikan-tahti-designer-dead-at-76/#comment-72503 Finnpundit Fri, 04 Aug 2006 19:48:58 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/31/afrikan-tahti-designer-dead-at-76/#comment-72503 I>Ad hominem attacks should be quite familiar to Finnish anti-American bigots. I>Ad hominem attacks should be quite familiar to Finnish anti-American bigots.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/31/afrikan-tahti-designer-dead-at-76/#comment-71783 Anonymous Wed, 02 Aug 2006 19:19:15 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/31/afrikan-tahti-designer-dead-at-76/#comment-71783 "What’s the point they’re trying to make, other than the fact that Finland has lousy photographers." Nice immature and childish ad homimen attack again. That's pretty much sums up your intellectual capabilities. “What’s the point they’re trying to make, other than the fact that Finland has lousy photographers.”

Nice immature and childish ad homimen attack again. That’s pretty much sums up your intellectual capabilities.

]]> By: Matti http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/31/afrikan-tahti-designer-dead-at-76/#comment-71700 Matti Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:39:20 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/31/afrikan-tahti-designer-dead-at-76/#comment-71700 Finnpundit:"After all, in his generation, young Finns left Finland in a kind of diaspora, drawn by the lures of wealth in the outside world, as the staid Lutheran (and later, welfare-statist) Finnnish future never held any promise for adventure, and fun." Yeah his generation left to work in Sweden..... What a freaking huge relief that must have been. You know cause Sweden neverd had staid Lutheran (and later,welfare statist) future. Finnpundit:”After all, in his generation, young Finns left Finland in a kind of diaspora, drawn by the lures of wealth in the outside world, as the staid Lutheran (and later, welfare-statist) Finnnish future never held any promise for adventure, and fun.”

Yeah his generation left to work in Sweden….. What a freaking huge relief that must have been. You know cause Sweden neverd had staid Lutheran (and later,welfare statist) future.

]]> By: punde http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/31/afrikan-tahti-designer-dead-at-76/#comment-71575 punde Wed, 02 Aug 2006 11:03:02 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/31/afrikan-tahti-designer-dead-at-76/#comment-71575 Scotland Yard was my favourite board game ages ago. Scotland Yard was my favourite board game ages ago.

]]> By: Phil http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/31/afrikan-tahti-designer-dead-at-76/#comment-71112 Phil Tue, 01 Aug 2006 09:34:14 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/31/afrikan-tahti-designer-dead-at-76/#comment-71112 <i>These days I prefer games like Carcassone, Ticket to Ride, and my all-time favorite Alias.</i> If you enjoy Ticket to Ride, then you need to check out "Thurn and Taxis", it's out in English and German and will be out in Finnish soon. Soooooooo much better than Ticket to Ride, but with sorta similar mechanics. These days I prefer games like Carcassone, Ticket to Ride, and my all-time favorite Alias.

If you enjoy Ticket to Ride, then you need to check out “Thurn and Taxis”, it’s out in English and German and will be out in Finnish soon. Soooooooo much better than Ticket to Ride, but with sorta similar mechanics.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/31/afrikan-tahti-designer-dead-at-76/#comment-71107 Anonymous Tue, 01 Aug 2006 09:14:29 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/31/afrikan-tahti-designer-dead-at-76/#comment-71107 Could it be that the ad agency wanted to promote the new game with this particular photo? An old rugged guy who clearly knows his Tarzan Africa or Sierra Madre like Bogart? With a photo that stops you, the potential customer? Probably not. As we all know Finnpundit is a clever guy who's almost always right. So, probably the agency just screwed it up on purpose, in order to make fun of a person who didn't fit their welfare-statist world view. I'm glad, though, that Finnpundit's fantasies this time didn't lead to any morbid ideas - him wanting to see the the photographer masscred and the like, you know. Could it be that the ad agency wanted to promote the new game with this particular photo? An old rugged guy who clearly knows his Tarzan Africa or Sierra Madre like Bogart? With a photo that stops you, the potential customer?

Probably not. As we all know Finnpundit is a clever guy who’s almost always right. So, probably the agency just screwed it up on purpose, in order to make fun of a person who didn’t fit their welfare-statist world view.

I’m glad, though, that Finnpundit’s fantasies this time didn’t lead to any morbid ideas - him wanting to see the the photographer masscred and the like, you know.

]]> By: Anzi http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/31/afrikan-tahti-designer-dead-at-76/#comment-71077 Anzi Tue, 01 Aug 2006 07:39:25 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/31/afrikan-tahti-designer-dead-at-76/#comment-71077 I actually find Afrikan Tähti to be a bit boring. It worked as a kid, but as an adult it feels outdated and monotonous. These days I prefer games like Carcassone, Ticket to Ride, and my all-time favorite Alias. I actually find Afrikan Tähti to be a bit boring. It worked as a kid, but as an adult it feels outdated and monotonous. These days I prefer games like Carcassone, Ticket to Ride, and my all-time favorite Alias.

]]> By: Bergie http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/31/afrikan-tahti-designer-dead-at-76/#comment-71073 Bergie Tue, 01 Aug 2006 07:25:16 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/31/afrikan-tahti-designer-dead-at-76/#comment-71073 Afrikan Tähti is still the favourite board game for rainy days at the summer cottage. You just have to love the colonial era romantic view of the continent... http://bergie.iki.fi/moblog/2005-09-03-1125739805 http://bergie.iki.fi/moblog/2006-06-10-1149947406 Afrikan Tähti is still the favourite board game for rainy days at the summer cottage. You just have to love the colonial era romantic view of the continent…

http://bergie.iki.fi/moblog/2005-09-03-1125739805

http://bergie.iki.fi/moblog/2006-06-10-1149947406

]]> By: Mikko http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/31/afrikan-tahti-designer-dead-at-76/#comment-71070 Mikko Tue, 01 Aug 2006 07:16:21 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/31/afrikan-tahti-designer-dead-at-76/#comment-71070 Besides, Afrikan tähti was directly influenced by Tarzan, so whatever capitalist and colonialist undertones there are, they are probably from Tarzan, not Mannerla. I'm quite sure there are children's board games with Finnish map as a game board, but no decent games (well, excluding war games based on the Finnish wars). There's a fan made Finland expansion for Ticket to Ride and I've seen a prototype of a wargame set in Finnish civil war. Today's Aamulehti said Mannerla waas 19 when he designed Afrikan tähti and that he had designed 16 games before that. Anybody know those games? Besides, Afrikan tähti was directly influenced by Tarzan, so whatever capitalist and colonialist undertones there are, they are probably from Tarzan, not Mannerla.

I’m quite sure there are children’s board games with Finnish map as a game board, but no decent games (well, excluding war games based on the Finnish wars). There’s a fan made Finland expansion for Ticket to Ride and I’ve seen a prototype of a wargame set in Finnish civil war.

Today’s Aamulehti said Mannerla waas 19 when he designed Afrikan tähti and that he had designed 16 games before that. Anybody know those games?

]]> By: Anzi http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/31/afrikan-tahti-designer-dead-at-76/#comment-71067 Anzi Tue, 01 Aug 2006 07:06:30 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/31/afrikan-tahti-designer-dead-at-76/#comment-71067 I've never seen a board game that use a map of Finland. Another childhood classic, The Moomin Game, uses the Moominvalley map as a game board. I’ve never seen a board game that use a map of Finland. Another childhood classic, The Moomin Game, uses the Moominvalley map as a game board.

]]> By: Anzi http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/31/afrikan-tahti-designer-dead-at-76/#comment-71066 Anzi Tue, 01 Aug 2006 07:04:43 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/31/afrikan-tahti-designer-dead-at-76/#comment-71066 Oh good grief, Finnpundit! Could you be any more boring? Why do you always have to try and find some deep political, and negative, meaning in everything, even a kid's game? Maybe Kari Mannerla just created the game for fun? Maybe he set it in colonial Africa because at the time it was created, the continent was still very much under colonial and capitalist rule? Maybe he made it an adventure game because people all over the world like adventure an excitement in their boring day-to-day lives? It's not like Tarzan, also a capitalist and imperialist character, was written by a Finn. Oh good grief, Finnpundit! Could you be any more boring? Why do you always have to try and find some deep political, and negative, meaning in everything, even a kid’s game?

Maybe Kari Mannerla just created the game for fun? Maybe he set it in colonial Africa because at the time it was created, the continent was still very much under colonial and capitalist rule? Maybe he made it an adventure game because people all over the world like adventure an excitement in their boring day-to-day lives? It’s not like Tarzan, also a capitalist and imperialist character, was written by a Finn.

]]> By: Phil http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/31/afrikan-tahti-designer-dead-at-76/#comment-71045 Phil Tue, 01 Aug 2006 05:22:54 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/31/afrikan-tahti-designer-dead-at-76/#comment-71045 He should have picked a map of Finland instead of Africa. Are there any board games out there that use a map of Finland as its game board? He should have picked a map of Finland instead of Africa. Are there any board games out there that use a map of Finland as its game board?

]]> By: Mikko http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/31/afrikan-tahti-designer-dead-at-76/#comment-71026 Mikko Tue, 01 Aug 2006 03:38:13 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/31/afrikan-tahti-designer-dead-at-76/#comment-71026 Actually, the game was released when he was 21. Of course it's hard to know for sure when he came up with the idea; 18 or "under 20" seems to be the common answer. Actually, the game was released when he was 21. Of course it’s hard to know for sure when he came up with the idea; 18 or “under 20″ seems to be the common answer.

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