Comments on: Finnish observer killed by Israeli bombs at UN post in Lebanon http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/26/finnish-observer-killed-by-israeli-bombs-at-un-post-in-lebanon/ Politics, current events, culture - From Finland & United States Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:04:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Akhlaque Ahmed http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/26/finnish-observer-killed-by-israeli-bombs-at-un-post-in-lebanon/comment-page-12/#comment-373304 Akhlaque Ahmed Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:21:46 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/26/finnish-observer-killed-by-israeli-bombs-at-un-post-in-lebanon/#comment-373304 Irail is a terrorist natios.Israil is 2nd Hitler.Thousands of Phalsteni and forioners killed by Israili. Anyways Israil will destroyed by Americans.I mean in Harmageddon America and all muslim countries will destroy Israil.Harmageddon will fought in Megiddo area(located in Israil). After that war Israil totally destroyed.Russia also defeat. Now-a-days not only muslim countries are against Israil,Europian countries and 60% Americans also against Israil because too much forioners killed by Israil.Hundreds of Americans also killed in Israil. Irail is a terrorist natios.Israil is 2nd Hitler.Thousands of Phalsteni and forioners killed by Israili.
Anyways Israil will destroyed by Americans.I mean in Harmageddon America and all muslim countries will destroy Israil.Harmageddon will fought in Megiddo area(located in Israil).
After that war Israil totally destroyed.Russia also defeat.
Now-a-days not only muslim countries are against Israil,Europian countries and 60% Americans also against Israil because too much forioners killed by Israil.Hundreds of Americans also killed in Israil.

]]> By: colin http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/26/finnish-observer-killed-by-israeli-bombs-at-un-post-in-lebanon/comment-page-12/#comment-367456 colin Wed, 01 Oct 2008 01:06:35 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/26/finnish-observer-killed-by-israeli-bombs-at-un-post-in-lebanon/#comment-367456 watched the israelis on countless times fire phosphourus rounds and well as intentional fire upon UN posts in shaqra and brashit in lebanon while i served with the un. fired intentionally at myself as well as killing lads we knew while we were peacekeeping there. they should be tried for war crimes against the un and i would forcably tackle anyone who said different. dont make comments on hear say or beliefs but base them on facts! p.s / one person made a comment on lebaneese kidnapping israeli soldiers. your obviously ignorant to the grapes of wrath in the 80s and the DFF who fight on the border for the israelis, ex irish soldier watched the israelis on countless times fire phosphourus rounds and well as intentional fire upon UN posts in shaqra and brashit in lebanon while i served with the un. fired intentionally at myself as well as killing lads we knew while we were peacekeeping there. they should be tried for war crimes against the un and i would forcably tackle anyone who said different. dont make comments on hear say or beliefs but base them on facts! p.s / one person made a comment on lebaneese kidnapping israeli soldiers. your obviously ignorant to the grapes of wrath in the 80s and the DFF who fight on the border for the israelis,
ex irish soldier

]]> By: lcopti3@lycos.com http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/26/finnish-observer-killed-by-israeli-bombs-at-un-post-in-lebanon/comment-page-12/#comment-300528 lcopti3@lycos.com Thu, 08 Feb 2007 07:45:46 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/26/finnish-observer-killed-by-israeli-bombs-at-un-post-in-lebanon/#comment-300528 ringtones free ringtones free

]]> By: lea http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/26/finnish-observer-killed-by-israeli-bombs-at-un-post-in-lebanon/comment-page-12/#comment-200347 lea Tue, 21 Nov 2006 23:06:36 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/26/finnish-observer-killed-by-israeli-bombs-at-un-post-in-lebanon/#comment-200347 "I'm not really all that sure about what this is all about but if your just throwing opinions out their then i would have to say that there should be no war what so ever. I mean that if people could try to understand that the world is not perfect and every one has a right to say what they want and do want they want then we all would be better off. i'm not saying that stealing the air planes and crashing them into the Twin Towers was ok it just why couldn't we just take out the only peson resonsible for it and leave it alone!! There are some people that got killed for absolutly no reason and when that starts to happen other people will kill for reveng and the war will continue. Now I don't know about you but, I want this war to be done and over with so that our families can come home and we can continue with our little lives. I mean come on it happened five friking years ago please give it a break all ready. This is just my opinion though you don't have to say any thing on that subjet or even put this on the comments if you think that ilrelivent to the subject." “I’m not really all that sure about what this is all about but if your just throwing opinions out their then i would have to say that there should be no war what so ever. I mean that if people could try to understand that the world is not perfect and every one has a right to say what they want and do want they want then we all would be better off. i’m not saying that stealing the air planes and crashing them into the Twin Towers was ok it just why couldn’t we just take out the only peson resonsible for it and leave it alone!! There are some people that got killed for absolutly no reason and when that starts to happen other people will kill for reveng and the war will continue. Now I don’t know about you but, I want this war to be done and over with so that our families can come home and we can continue with our little lives. I mean come on it happened five friking years ago please give it a break all ready. This is just my opinion though you don’t have to say any thing on that subjet or even put this on the comments if you think that ilrelivent to the subject.”

]]> By: Gi http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/26/finnish-observer-killed-by-israeli-bombs-at-un-post-in-lebanon/comment-page-12/#comment-96788 Gi Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:01:06 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/26/finnish-observer-killed-by-israeli-bombs-at-un-post-in-lebanon/#comment-96788 Europe had always been a dark continent with wild antisemitic feeling. No one here is angry for 4,000 missiles shot on Israeli towns. Imagine it was in your place. Hizbulla is hiding between civilians, blame them, it's about time Europe had always been a dark continent with wild antisemitic feeling. No one here is angry for 4,000 missiles shot on Israeli towns. Imagine it was in your place. Hizbulla is hiding between civilians, blame them, it’s about time

]]> By: winter http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/26/finnish-observer-killed-by-israeli-bombs-at-un-post-in-lebanon/comment-page-12/#comment-72354 winter Fri, 04 Aug 2006 11:42:36 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/26/finnish-observer-killed-by-israeli-bombs-at-un-post-in-lebanon/#comment-72354 "Both systems have their points," except we also don't discriminate (Except for president and VP) in any elected office. See Arnold in the state of California for an example. I feel sorry for all those who have lost good people to the USA, but if a system is fair, you have to understand why they came. “Both systems have their points,”

except we also don’t discriminate (Except for president and VP) in any elected office. See Arnold in the state of California for an example.

I feel sorry for all those who have lost good people to the USA, but if a system is fair, you have to understand why they came.

]]> By: prince of dorkness http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/26/finnish-observer-killed-by-israeli-bombs-at-un-post-in-lebanon/comment-page-12/#comment-72308 prince of dorkness Fri, 04 Aug 2006 07:46:39 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/26/finnish-observer-killed-by-israeli-bombs-at-un-post-in-lebanon/#comment-72308 "Anyone born here, like you were born in Jordan, is automatically a USA citizen, and afforded all rights and privileges." winter, post 573 Yes, that's the US principle (and the UK and France are like that too). The technical term is 'jus soli', law of the soil (IIRC). But many countries, like Finland, have a different system where it doesn't matter where you're born, your citizenship depends on the citizenship of your parents ('jus sanguinis', law of the blood). Both systems have their points, although it's usually Anglophone liberals that feel that jus sanguinis is horribly racist. Some of them manage to support the Right of Return at the same time... “Anyone born here, like you were born in Jordan, is automatically a USA citizen, and afforded all rights and privileges.” winter, post 573
Yes, that’s the US principle (and the UK and France are like that too). The technical term is ‘jus soli’, law of the soil (IIRC).
But many countries, like Finland, have a different system where it doesn’t matter where you’re born, your citizenship depends on the citizenship of your parents (‘jus sanguinis’, law of the blood).
Both systems have their points, although it’s usually Anglophone liberals that feel that jus sanguinis is horribly racist. Some of them manage to support the Right of Return at the same time…

]]> By: winter http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/26/finnish-observer-killed-by-israeli-bombs-at-un-post-in-lebanon/comment-page-12/#comment-72172 winter Fri, 04 Aug 2006 01:35:17 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/26/finnish-observer-killed-by-israeli-bombs-at-un-post-in-lebanon/#comment-72172 Qana, update. The Red Cross, which is no friend of the Israeli State, they only report 28 bodies, (and western media has seen no more than 12) why does the CBC (among others) continue to report the number as 54? Qana, update.

The Red Cross, which is no friend of the Israeli State, they only report 28 bodies, (and western media has seen no more than 12) why does the CBC (among others) continue to report the number as 54?

]]> By: winter http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/26/finnish-observer-killed-by-israeli-bombs-at-un-post-in-lebanon/comment-page-12/#comment-72159 winter Fri, 04 Aug 2006 00:02:25 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/26/finnish-observer-killed-by-israeli-bombs-at-un-post-in-lebanon/#comment-72159 Fred Omas has a bigger problem. His own country of birth discriminates against him. This is really sad. Maby a UN resolution can cheer him up? Fred

Omas has a bigger problem. His own country of birth discriminates against him.

This is really sad. Maby a UN resolution can cheer him up?

]]> By: Fred Fry http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/26/finnish-observer-killed-by-israeli-bombs-at-un-post-in-lebanon/comment-page-12/#comment-72132 Fred Fry Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:42:00 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/26/finnish-observer-killed-by-israeli-bombs-at-un-post-in-lebanon/#comment-72132 ""No not “For sure!” , there remains one important issue to achieve the peace; it is the Apartheid Wall. The UNSC failed to pass a resolution against the Apartheid Wall, because of the USA veto. The International Court of Justice issued a ruling calling for the barrier to be removed and for Palestinians to be compensated:" Omar, the wall will be addressed in due time. Right now it prevents attacks on people even you claim are legitimate targets. As far as I can tell, eventually, you will have two governments up and existing in that area with (eventually) free movement between the two countries. No one can tell how far away that is. There is lots of tough ground to cover before we get there. Anyway, surely the wall is a much better option than what is currently going on in Lebanon. Makes you wonder, just how did Hezbollah cross into Israel without the UN Observers observing that? It was their only job while there...... There was a fince there. Guess it should have been a wall. “”No not “For sure!” , there remains one important issue to achieve the peace; it is the Apartheid Wall. The UNSC failed to pass a resolution against the Apartheid Wall, because of the USA veto. The International Court of Justice issued a ruling calling for the barrier to be removed and for Palestinians to be compensated:”

Omar, the wall will be addressed in due time. Right now it prevents attacks on people even you claim are legitimate targets. As far as I can tell, eventually, you will have two governments up and existing in that area with (eventually) free movement between the two countries. No one can tell how far away that is. There is lots of tough ground to cover before we get there.

Anyway, surely the wall is a much better option than what is currently going on in Lebanon. Makes you wonder, just how did Hezbollah cross into Israel without the UN Observers observing that? It was their only job while there…… There was a fince there. Guess it should have been a wall.

]]> By: winter http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/26/finnish-observer-killed-by-israeli-bombs-at-un-post-in-lebanon/comment-page-12/#comment-72107 winter Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:55:59 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/26/finnish-observer-killed-by-israeli-bombs-at-un-post-in-lebanon/#comment-72107 “This happens everywhere if you are not a native citizen?” huh, but you are a native Not in the evil USA. Anyone born here, like you were born in Jordan, is automatically a USA citizen, and afforded all rights and privileges. Also after 5 years Refuges are given the opportunity to become citizens and are NOT discriminated against for jobs, housing… How can this be “Understandable”. This should be your number 1 outrage. You are in a country, born there and they fully discriminate AGAINST you? Again how can you even think, you are to have, less privileges, than any other person born in your country of birth? Again. That evil USA has no requirements for either parents to be born in the USA. You just have to become a citizen. It just does not happen here. “This happens everywhere if you are not a native citizen?”

huh, but you are a native

Not in the evil USA. Anyone born here, like you were born in Jordan, is automatically a USA citizen, and afforded all rights and privileges.

Also after 5 years Refuges are given the opportunity to become citizens and are NOT discriminated against for jobs, housing…

How can this be “Understandable”. This should be your number 1 outrage. You are in a country, born there and they fully discriminate AGAINST you?

Again how can you even think, you are to have, less privileges, than any other person born in your country of birth?

Again. That evil USA has no requirements for either parents to be born in the USA. You just have to become a citizen.

It just does not happen here.

]]> By: Abu Omar http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/26/finnish-observer-killed-by-israeli-bombs-at-un-post-in-lebanon/comment-page-12/#comment-72036 Abu Omar Thu, 03 Aug 2006 14:08:34 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/26/finnish-observer-killed-by-israeli-bombs-at-un-post-in-lebanon/#comment-72036 Hei, I wanted to clarify my personal views on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict before I leave to my vacation (cheers, no more Abu Omar for 5 weeks). I am against the Zionism and the State of Israel, and not in any way against the Jews. Almost all Palestinians and Arabs agree on this point. Jews had lived with our prophet Mohammad (Peace Be Upon Him) in Medina, and he (PBUH) signed treaties with them. Islam instructed Muslims to respect and to protect Christians and Jews in the Islamic state. They enjoyed their living in the Arab world well before the Zionists occupied Palestine. Below are some links about the Jewish communities in Arab countries: http://www.haruth.com/JewsBahrain.html http://www.haruth.com/JewsEgypt.html http://www.csmonitor.com/durable/1998/02/03/intl/intl.3.html http://www.haruth.com/JewsIraq.html http://www.haruth.com/JewsTunisia.html Believe it or not, one of the biggest Hamas supporters is Stanley Cohen who is an American Jew. He was a guest to one of the Doha Debates on the BBC to defend Hamas. This is the transcript of that debate: http://www.dohadebates.com/output/page57.asp http://www.jdo.org/stanley.htm In addition to that, there are many Jewish organizations against the Zionist state of Israel. http://www.jatonyc.org/ http://www.nkusa.org/ http://www.nimn.org/ http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/ Palestinians and most of the Arabs are Semite as Jews are. So, the anti-Semite allegations are void. Palestinians are not against Jews in any way, they are against Israel. Their demands do not go beyond the international legitimacy. To achieve peace, Israel must: - Pull out from the occupied territories: Gaza and West Bank - The Right of Return - Jerusalem - Freedom for captives - Demolish the Apartheid Wall The bottom line; Israel must comply to ALL UNSC resolutions, including those blocked by USA unilaterally. I am really glad for having the chance to discuss with all of you. Thanks all, Thanks Phil, Hei,

I wanted to clarify my personal views on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict before I leave to my vacation (cheers, no more Abu Omar for 5 weeks).

I am against the Zionism and the State of Israel, and not in any way against the Jews. Almost all Palestinians and Arabs agree on this point.

Jews had lived with our prophet Mohammad (Peace Be Upon Him) in Medina, and he (PBUH) signed treaties with them.
Islam instructed Muslims to respect and to protect Christians and Jews in the Islamic state.

They enjoyed their living in the Arab world well before the Zionists occupied Palestine.

Below are some links about the Jewish communities in Arab countries:
http://www.haruth.com/JewsBahrain.html
http://www.haruth.com/JewsEgypt.html
http://www.csmonitor.com/durable/1998/02/03/intl/intl.3.html
http://www.haruth.com/JewsIraq.html
http://www.haruth.com/JewsTunisia.html

Believe it or not, one of the biggest Hamas supporters is Stanley Cohen who is an American Jew.
He was a guest to one of the Doha Debates on the BBC to defend Hamas. This is the transcript of that debate:
http://www.dohadebates.com/output/page57.asp
http://www.jdo.org/stanley.htm

In addition to that, there are many Jewish organizations against the Zionist state of Israel.
http://www.jatonyc.org/
http://www.nkusa.org/
http://www.nimn.org/
http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/

Palestinians and most of the Arabs are Semite as Jews are. So, the anti-Semite allegations are void.

Palestinians are not against Jews in any way, they are against Israel.

Their demands do not go beyond the international legitimacy. To achieve peace, Israel must:
- Pull out from the occupied territories: Gaza and West Bank
- The Right of Return
- Jerusalem
- Freedom for captives
- Demolish the Apartheid Wall

The bottom line; Israel must comply to ALL UNSC resolutions, including those blocked by USA unilaterally.

I am really glad for having the chance to discuss with all of you.
Thanks all,
Thanks Phil,

]]> By: Abu Omar http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/26/finnish-observer-killed-by-israeli-bombs-at-un-post-in-lebanon/comment-page-12/#comment-72029 Abu Omar Thu, 03 Aug 2006 13:47:55 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/26/finnish-observer-killed-by-israeli-bombs-at-un-post-in-lebanon/#comment-72029 This happens everywhere if you are not a native citizen. Even here in Finland: Once I was looking for a research topic for my Master thesis in Helsinki University of Technology. I was delighted when I found an adv. for a very advanced research, but then I was shocked when I read the requirements: "<i>the applicant MUST be a native Finn -both parents must be Finns-</i>" Well, it was a military research funded by the Finnish army. Do you call it discrimination? I don't. I'm not saying that there is a discrimination against Palestinians in Jordan; I'm saying that it is understandable, especially if you take into consideration: - Palestinians are about 70% of the population in Jordan - The events the "Black September" deepened the mistrust between the natives and the refugees. This happens everywhere if you are not a native citizen.

Even here in Finland:
Once I was looking for a research topic for my Master thesis in Helsinki University of Technology. I was delighted when I found an adv. for a very advanced research, but then I was shocked when I read the requirements: “the applicant MUST be a native Finn -both parents must be Finns-”

Well, it was a military research funded by the Finnish army.

Do you call it discrimination?
I don’t.

I’m not saying that there is a discrimination against Palestinians in Jordan; I’m saying that it is understandable, especially if you take into consideration:
- Palestinians are about 70% of the population in Jordan
- The events the “Black September” deepened the mistrust between the natives and the refugees.

]]> By: winter http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/26/finnish-observer-killed-by-israeli-bombs-at-un-post-in-lebanon/comment-page-12/#comment-71996 winter Thu, 03 Aug 2006 11:18:36 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/26/finnish-observer-killed-by-israeli-bombs-at-un-post-in-lebanon/#comment-71996 Wow Omar, I did not think it was that bad. You are discriminated against for jobs, education, and living conditions, in "YOUR HOME COUNTRY". What a shame. Just what grievance's against Jordan do you have? Just what grievance's against your fellow Arabs for this unwaranted discrimination do you have? Just what UN resolutions has Jordan failed to follow in this total discrimination against your people? Wow

Omar, I did not think it was that bad. You are discriminated against for jobs, education, and living conditions, in “YOUR HOME COUNTRY”.

What a shame.

Just what grievance’s against Jordan do you have?

Just what grievance’s against your fellow Arabs for this unwaranted discrimination do you have?

Just what UN resolutions has Jordan failed to follow in this total discrimination against your people?

]]> By: Abu Omar http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/26/finnish-observer-killed-by-israeli-bombs-at-un-post-in-lebanon/comment-page-12/#comment-71961 Abu Omar Thu, 03 Aug 2006 07:28:00 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/07/26/finnish-observer-killed-by-israeli-bombs-at-un-post-in-lebanon/#comment-71961 Correction to post #561 <i> Compliance with all the SC Resolutions results in an Israel and a Palestine, right? For sure! </i> No not "For sure!" :), there remains one important issue to achieve the peace; it is the Apartheid Wall. The UNSC failed to pass a resolution against the Apartheid Wall, because of the USA veto. The International Court of Justice issued a ruling calling for the barrier to be removed and for Palestinians to be compensated: <i> "The Court finds that the construction by Israel of a wall in the Occupied Palestinian Territory and its associated régime are contrary to international law; it states the legal consequences arising from that illegality" </i> http://domino.un.org/UNISPAl.NSF/85255e950050831085255e95004fa9c3/3740e39487a5428a85256ecc005e157a!OpenDocument In addition to that, the Israeli Supreme Court issued a similar ruling against Israel itself. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_West_Bank_barrier#Israeli_Supreme_Court_decision_of_2004 http://www.machsomwatch.org/ http://www.stopthewall.org/ http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13041.htm http://www.antiwar.com/hacohen/h052103.html http://www.auphr.org/thewall/ Correction to post #561

Compliance with all the SC Resolutions results in an Israel and a Palestine, right?

For sure!

No not “For sure!” :) , there remains one important issue to achieve the peace; it is the Apartheid Wall.
The UNSC failed to pass a resolution against the Apartheid Wall, because of the USA veto.

The International Court of Justice issued a ruling calling for the barrier to be removed and for Palestinians to be compensated:

“The Court finds that the construction by Israel of a wall in the Occupied Palestinian Territory and its associated régime are contrary to international law; it states the legal consequences arising from that illegality”
http://domino.un.org/UNISPAl.NSF/85255e950050831085255e95004fa9c3/3740e39487a5428a85256ecc005e157a!OpenDocument

In addition to that, the Israeli Supreme Court issued a similar ruling against Israel itself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_West_Bank_barrier#Israeli_Supreme_Court_decision_of_2004

http://www.machsomwatch.org/
http://www.stopthewall.org/
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13041.htm
http://www.antiwar.com/hacohen/h052103.html
http://www.auphr.org/thewall/

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