Comments on: Ever seen anyone over the age of 18 working at McDonald’s in Finland? http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/27/ever-seen-anyone-over-the-age-of-18-working-at-mcdonalds-in-finland/ Politics, current events, culture - From Finland & United States Mon, 13 Oct 2008 05:30:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Visitor http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/27/ever-seen-anyone-over-the-age-of-18-working-at-mcdonalds-in-finland/#comment-62468 Visitor Sat, 03 Jun 2006 09:26:04 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/27/ever-seen-anyone-over-the-age-of-18-working-at-mcdonalds-in-finland/#comment-62468 I happen to know, that the wages in Mc Donald's is quite good. Well, you can't really say good, but it is better than in most of the grocery stores. I have been working in Mc Donald's, when I was 20, and almost everyone there was about my age. I would like to correct the typical idea about working in mc donald's. It it not easy, as many might think. It is very hard work and actually quite difficult job, in the sense, that you have to work really hard. If you are slow, there is no way you should even apply to mc donald's. I happen to know, that the wages in Mc Donald’s is quite good. Well, you can’t really say good, but it is better than in most of the grocery stores.

I have been working in Mc Donald’s, when I was 20, and almost everyone there was about my age.

I would like to correct the typical idea about working in mc donald’s. It it not easy, as many might think. It is very hard work and actually quite difficult job, in the sense, that you have to work really hard. If you are slow, there is no way you should even apply to mc donald’s.

]]> By: Drakon http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/27/ever-seen-anyone-over-the-age-of-18-working-at-mcdonalds-in-finland/#comment-61755 Drakon Tue, 30 May 2006 20:59:44 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/27/ever-seen-anyone-over-the-age-of-18-working-at-mcdonalds-in-finland/#comment-61755 Hugh, that is a question of definition. For me, the meaning of "unemployed" is not "unavailable to work" but rather the exact opposite, the people that could be employed at any time if someone would need their labour. I definitely would not say that the people in the army are "not working", just look at the amount of hours the consripts do at basic training, for example. The work they do might be very unproductive and extremely poorly paid, but then again, so are many jobs in the private sector... Hugh, that is a question of definition. For me, the meaning of “unemployed” is not “unavailable to work” but rather the exact opposite, the people that could be employed at any time if someone would need their labour. I definitely would not say that the people in the army are “not working”, just look at the amount of hours the consripts do at basic training, for example. The work they do might be very unproductive and extremely poorly paid, but then again, so are many jobs in the private sector…

]]> By: Hugh Janus http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/27/ever-seen-anyone-over-the-age-of-18-working-at-mcdonalds-in-finland/#comment-61571 Hugh Janus Tue, 30 May 2006 09:29:03 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/27/ever-seen-anyone-over-the-age-of-18-working-at-mcdonalds-in-finland/#comment-61571 Well the forced labour people are technically unavailable to work or not in work and thus countable. Well the forced labour people are technically unavailable to work or not in work and thus countable.

]]> By: Drakon http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/27/ever-seen-anyone-over-the-age-of-18-working-at-mcdonalds-in-finland/#comment-61423 Drakon Mon, 29 May 2006 15:09:52 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/27/ever-seen-anyone-over-the-age-of-18-working-at-mcdonalds-in-finland/#comment-61423 I seem to remember that the "very high youth unemployment at 21.6%"- figure was checked by Statistics Finland, who found out that the actual figure is somewhat lower, for the simple reason that the HDI study for some reason or another classifies the young men and women in the army and the civil service as "unemployed". The HS reported this some weeks ago, I think. I seem to remember that the “very high youth unemployment at 21.6%”- figure was checked by Statistics Finland, who found out that the actual figure is somewhat lower, for the simple reason that the HDI study for some reason or another classifies the young men and women in the army and the civil service as “unemployed”. The HS reported this some weeks ago, I think.

]]> By: Krisu http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/27/ever-seen-anyone-over-the-age-of-18-working-at-mcdonalds-in-finland/#comment-61363 Krisu Mon, 29 May 2006 10:46:02 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/27/ever-seen-anyone-over-the-age-of-18-working-at-mcdonalds-in-finland/#comment-61363 Most people working at McDonalds are over 18, but still they are young, the average age is probably around 20. Most people working at McDonalds are over 18, but still they are young, the average age is probably around 20.

]]> By: gopha http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/27/ever-seen-anyone-over-the-age-of-18-working-at-mcdonalds-in-finland/#comment-61297 gopha Sun, 28 May 2006 13:08:43 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/27/ever-seen-anyone-over-the-age-of-18-working-at-mcdonalds-in-finland/#comment-61297 <i>But I guess that’s all bull then?</i> Sure is. Especially inner-city Maccas. But I guess that’s all bull then?

Sure is. Especially inner-city Maccas.

]]> By: Reko http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/27/ever-seen-anyone-over-the-age-of-18-working-at-mcdonalds-in-finland/#comment-61294 Reko Sun, 28 May 2006 12:05:22 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/27/ever-seen-anyone-over-the-age-of-18-working-at-mcdonalds-in-finland/#comment-61294 Goes to show how much I know. I actually thought that the US MacDonalds employees were all top of the crop enthusiastic youth etc. Since I heard that they are much nicer over there. Like, they smile all the time and the procedure for the whole customer service is alot 'tighter' there than it is in Finland. But I guess that's all bull then? Goes to show how much I know. I actually thought that the US MacDonalds employees were all top of the crop enthusiastic youth etc. Since I heard that they are much nicer over there. Like, they smile all the time and the procedure for the whole customer service is alot ‘tighter’ there than it is in Finland. But I guess that’s all bull then?

]]> By: Frustrated Finn http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/27/ever-seen-anyone-over-the-age-of-18-working-at-mcdonalds-in-finland/#comment-61270 Frustrated Finn Sun, 28 May 2006 00:12:42 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/27/ever-seen-anyone-over-the-age-of-18-working-at-mcdonalds-in-finland/#comment-61270 olympic gymnastics.. what an excellent comparison :) However, I think it is required by law that anyone working nights (late nights) has to be over 18. I regularly see people over 18 working at fast food joints, but they aren't much over... olympic gymnastics.. what an excellent comparison :) However, I think it is required by law that anyone working nights (late nights) has to be over 18. I regularly see people over 18 working at fast food joints, but they aren’t much over…

]]> By: Sini http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/27/ever-seen-anyone-over-the-age-of-18-working-at-mcdonalds-in-finland/#comment-61249 Sini Sat, 27 May 2006 17:27:37 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/27/ever-seen-anyone-over-the-age-of-18-working-at-mcdonalds-in-finland/#comment-61249 At least in Hämeenlinna most of the people who work at McDonalds are over 18. And what comes to the question why Finnish young adults are willing to work there but most Americans are not, might have something to do with the fact that Americans eat out more often and there are much more semi nice restaurants in the US where young adults often work instead of McDonalds. In Finland we almost only have either fast food or really nice restaurants and not the ones between. At least in Hämeenlinna most of the people who work at McDonalds are over 18. And what comes to the question why Finnish young adults are willing to work there but most Americans are not, might have something to do with the fact that Americans eat out more often and there are much more semi nice restaurants in the US where young adults often work instead of McDonalds. In Finland we almost only have either fast food or really nice restaurants and not the ones between.

]]> By: Rithiur http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/27/ever-seen-anyone-over-the-age-of-18-working-at-mcdonalds-in-finland/#comment-61238 Rithiur Sat, 27 May 2006 12:45:17 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/27/ever-seen-anyone-over-the-age-of-18-working-at-mcdonalds-in-finland/#comment-61238 Mostly the reason is that young people in Finland see McDonalds as an easy place to get work at. At least among the people I know, everyone thinks is that if you need work and don't mind much about the kind, McDonalds is the place to apply. They don't really require previous experience, nor do you need an education to work there, so young people apply there because it's easy to apply there. I know plenty of my friends have worked at McDonalds since they've turned 16. The work at fast food places is also not seen as that respectable, which is why older people rarely apply. I also think it's because McDonalds likes to keep a youthful image, so the younger the people working, the better. Mostly the reason is that young people in Finland see McDonalds as an easy place to get work at. At least among the people I know, everyone thinks is that if you need work and don’t mind much about the kind, McDonalds is the place to apply.

They don’t really require previous experience, nor do you need an education to work there, so young people apply there because it’s easy to apply there. I know plenty of my friends have worked at McDonalds since they’ve turned 16.

The work at fast food places is also not seen as that respectable, which is why older people rarely apply. I also think it’s because McDonalds likes to keep a youthful image, so the younger the people working, the better.

]]> By: gopha http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/27/ever-seen-anyone-over-the-age-of-18-working-at-mcdonalds-in-finland/#comment-61231 gopha Sat, 27 May 2006 10:48:51 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/27/ever-seen-anyone-over-the-age-of-18-working-at-mcdonalds-in-finland/#comment-61231 I have yet to go to Maccas here. I have yet to go to Maccas here.

]]> By: finnsense http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/27/ever-seen-anyone-over-the-age-of-18-working-at-mcdonalds-in-finland/#comment-61229 finnsense Sat, 27 May 2006 10:16:56 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/27/ever-seen-anyone-over-the-age-of-18-working-at-mcdonalds-in-finland/#comment-61229 "Ever seen an immigrant working in a Finnish McDonalds" Yes, plenty. Ever been to Helsinki? “Ever seen an immigrant working in a Finnish McDonalds”

Yes, plenty. Ever been to Helsinki?

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/27/ever-seen-anyone-over-the-age-of-18-working-at-mcdonalds-in-finland/#comment-61226 Anonymous Sat, 27 May 2006 09:53:39 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/27/ever-seen-anyone-over-the-age-of-18-working-at-mcdonalds-in-finland/#comment-61226 Over two thirds of finns have a higher education, so it's only natural that only teenagers work in fast food places. Over two thirds of finns have a higher education, so it’s only natural that only teenagers work in fast food places.

]]> By: Finnish honesty http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/27/ever-seen-anyone-over-the-age-of-18-working-at-mcdonalds-in-finland/#comment-61225 Finnish honesty Sat, 27 May 2006 09:46:43 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/27/ever-seen-anyone-over-the-age-of-18-working-at-mcdonalds-in-finland/#comment-61225 Ever seen an immigrant working in a Finnish McDonald's Just how much Finnish do you really need to work in McD's? Ever seen an immigrant working in a Finnish McDonald’s

Just how much Finnish do you really need to work in McD’s?

]]> By: finn http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/27/ever-seen-anyone-over-the-age-of-18-working-at-mcdonalds-in-finland/#comment-61217 finn Sat, 27 May 2006 08:53:52 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/27/ever-seen-anyone-over-the-age-of-18-working-at-mcdonalds-in-finland/#comment-61217 Well have you seen anyone under the age 18 working there? No you have not. Well have you seen anyone under the age 18 working there? No you have not.

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