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		<title>By: Antti (the redneck one)</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/05/a-bridge-between-finland-and-sweden/comment-page-1/#comment-59880</link>
		<dc:creator>Antti (the redneck one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 19:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Antti, are you implying that the ethnic pizzerias donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t pay taxes?&quot;

Noo, there are ethnic känkky&#039;s and tax-free ethnic känkky&#039;s, I just spoke about the latter. Of course, non-tax-free, ethnic 3e känkky would probably be even worse...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Antti, are you implying that the ethnic pizzerias donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t pay taxes?&#8221;</p>
<p>Noo, there are ethnic känkky&#8217;s and tax-free ethnic känkky&#8217;s, I just spoke about the latter. Of course, non-tax-free, ethnic 3e känkky would probably be even worse&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pave</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/05/a-bridge-between-finland-and-sweden/comment-page-1/#comment-57917</link>
		<dc:creator>Pave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 May 2006 15:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Antti, are you implying that the ethnic pizzerias don&#039;t pay taxes? :P

I love Kotipizza&#039;s pies. Their image-driven franchising though makes me sick. But still, känkkys don&#039;t even stand a chance except for their unbelievably low prices. 2.80e for a decent size pizza in Finland should raise some eyebrows...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Antti, are you implying that the ethnic pizzerias don&#8217;t pay taxes? <img src='http://www.finlandforthought.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I love Kotipizza&#8217;s pies. Their image-driven franchising though makes me sick. But still, känkkys don&#8217;t even stand a chance except for their unbelievably low prices. 2.80e for a decent size pizza in Finland should raise some eyebrows&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh Janus</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/05/a-bridge-between-finland-and-sweden/comment-page-1/#comment-56380</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh Janus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 05:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>time for the pizza king to open his wallet and not the states.

From VBL:
 	
9.5.2006
RG Line pÃƒÂ¥tvingas avbetalningsplan

Tuffa tag för rederiet i UmeÃƒÂ¥. I Vasa fÃƒÂ¥r staden pizzaaktier som pant.

UmeÃƒÂ¥ hamn har tvingat en av- 
betalningsplan pÃƒÂ¥ RG Line. TvÃƒÂ¥ miljoner kronor i hamnavgifter skall vara betalda den sista juni. 

Enligt Västerbottens Folkblad var alternativet för rederiet att börja betala kontant för varje gÃƒÂ¥ng RG 1 lade till i hamnen. 
RG Lines vd Börje Lassfolk bekräftar att det finns en betalningsplan. 
Ãƒâ€žven i Vasa hamn finns det en del obetalda avgifter. Ett större problem där torde ändÃƒÂ¥ vara Casino Express, som ligger och väntar pÃƒÂ¥ en köpare. Den senaste, som var aktuell tidigare i ÃƒÂ¥r, har dragit sig ur. Men det finns nya spekulanter. 
Rederiets likviditetsproblem gör att ett lÃƒÂ¥n som Vasa stad är i borgen för inte kan betalas bort i sommar som det var tänkt. Därför fick stadsstyrelsen i gÃƒÂ¥r ta emot ytterligare en miljon Kotipizzaaktier som pant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>time for the pizza king to open his wallet and not the states.</p>
<p>From VBL:</p>
<p>9.5.2006<br />
RG Line pÃƒÂ¥tvingas avbetalningsplan</p>
<p>Tuffa tag för rederiet i UmeÃƒÂ¥. I Vasa fÃƒÂ¥r staden pizzaaktier som pant.</p>
<p>UmeÃƒÂ¥ hamn har tvingat en av-<br />
betalningsplan pÃƒÂ¥ RG Line. TvÃƒÂ¥ miljoner kronor i hamnavgifter skall vara betalda den sista juni. </p>
<p>Enligt Västerbottens Folkblad var alternativet för rederiet att börja betala kontant för varje gÃƒÂ¥ng RG 1 lade till i hamnen.<br />
RG Lines vd Börje Lassfolk bekräftar att det finns en betalningsplan.<br />
Ãƒâ€žven i Vasa hamn finns det en del obetalda avgifter. Ett större problem där torde ändÃƒÂ¥ vara Casino Express, som ligger och väntar pÃƒÂ¥ en köpare. Den senaste, som var aktuell tidigare i ÃƒÂ¥r, har dragit sig ur. Men det finns nya spekulanter.<br />
Rederiets likviditetsproblem gör att ett lÃƒÂ¥n som Vasa stad är i borgen för inte kan betalas bort i sommar som det var tänkt. Därför fick stadsstyrelsen i gÃƒÂ¥r ta emot ytterligare en miljon Kotipizzaaktier som pant.</p>
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		<title>By: FinnFreak</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/05/a-bridge-between-finland-and-sweden/comment-page-1/#comment-56251</link>
		<dc:creator>FinnFreak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 12:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. I forgot to mention &quot;Omenahotelli&quot;.

Shame on me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I forgot to mention &#8220;Omenahotelli&#8221;.</p>
<p>Shame on me.</p>
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		<title>By: FinnFreak</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/05/a-bridge-between-finland-and-sweden/comment-page-1/#comment-56250</link>
		<dc:creator>FinnFreak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 12:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and the tomato soup at RAX is actually quite good..! :D

Well, he&#039;s done quite a bit for the local economy here... heh, unfortunately his shipping endeavours haven&#039;t been nearly as successfull:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RG_Line

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and the tomato soup at RAX is actually quite good..! <img src='http://www.finlandforthought.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Well, he&#8217;s done quite a bit for the local economy here&#8230; heh, unfortunately his shipping endeavours haven&#8217;t been nearly as successfull:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RG_Line" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RG_Line</a></p>
<p> <img src='http://www.finlandforthought.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hugh Janus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh Janus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 12:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have some speculation about the gent in question but in the absence of hard proof it could be highly defamatory and he has more money than I : )  But he is &quot;well thought of&quot; (sic) by many.. .even an honorary vice consul for England&#039;s embassy.

As someone who doesn&#039;t like salad, at least the salads at the house of the King are passasble when one is travailing the length and breadth of this fine land and will not entrust the taste buds to yet another Hesburger, &quot;Neste Pulla&quot; and Motor Oil coffee.  As good as any chain anyway :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have some speculation about the gent in question but in the absence of hard proof it could be highly defamatory and he has more money than I : )  But he is &#8220;well thought of&#8221; (sic) by many.. .even an honorary vice consul for England&#8217;s embassy.</p>
<p>As someone who doesn&#8217;t like salad, at least the salads at the house of the King are passasble when one is travailing the length and breadth of this fine land and will not entrust the taste buds to yet another Hesburger, &#8220;Neste Pulla&#8221; and Motor Oil coffee.  As good as any chain anyway <img src='http://www.finlandforthought.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: FinnFreak</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/05/a-bridge-between-finland-and-sweden/comment-page-1/#comment-56248</link>
		<dc:creator>FinnFreak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 11:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heh, Rabbe is currently expanding his Kotipizza/RAX empire: just last month the first outlet of Kotipizza opened in China, and India and Russia are next to enjoy the &quot;health food&quot; from Vaasa... (yikes!)

MUSIC TV SPECIAL PIZZA

Kyseessä on ensimmäinen kerta maailmanlaajuisesti, kun MTV:n logo näkyy pizzana. 

MTV SPECIAL PIZZA on myynnissä vain Suomessa ja Kotipizzassa. 


http://www.kotipizza.fi/Default.aspx?id=340328


...annamunkaikkikestää...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heh, Rabbe is currently expanding his Kotipizza/RAX empire: just last month the first outlet of Kotipizza opened in China, and India and Russia are next to enjoy the &#8220;health food&#8221; from Vaasa&#8230; (yikes!)</p>
<p>MUSIC TV SPECIAL PIZZA</p>
<p>Kyseessä on ensimmäinen kerta maailmanlaajuisesti, kun MTV:n logo näkyy pizzana. </p>
<p>MTV SPECIAL PIZZA on myynnissä vain Suomessa ja Kotipizzassa. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.kotipizza.fi/Default.aspx?id=340328" rel="nofollow">http://www.kotipizza.fi/Default.aspx?id=340328</a></p>
<p>&#8230;annamunkaikkikestää&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Antti (the redneck one)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antti (the redneck one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 11:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, I have never quite understood, how that pizza king got his position to begin with. Some lousy 3 euro tax-free ethnic känkky&#039;s (Oulu word for a relatively bad pizza) beat the output of his chain 6-0. Does it have something to do with the mobile phone effect, as one commentator here put it some time ago: &quot;People will order a fresh poop on their livingroom carpet, if they could do it with their phones.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, I have never quite understood, how that pizza king got his position to begin with. Some lousy 3 euro tax-free ethnic känkky&#8217;s (Oulu word for a relatively bad pizza) beat the output of his chain 6-0. Does it have something to do with the mobile phone effect, as one commentator here put it some time ago: &#8220;People will order a fresh poop on their livingroom carpet, if they could do it with their phones.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh Janus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh Janus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 10:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But with a bridge the rich pizza king won&#039;t get large subsidies for his boating enterprise (that could be funded from own capital).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But with a bridge the rich pizza king won&#8217;t get large subsidies for his boating enterprise (that could be funded from own capital).</p>
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		<title>By: FinnFreak</title>
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		<dc:creator>FinnFreak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 10:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah... the closest town to us in Vaasa isn&#039;t Seinäjoki - it&#039;s UmeÃƒÂ¥, in Sweden...

...and the ferry is seen as a joke by many - but with some urgent shipments from ABB, Wärtsilä or Scott Health &amp; Safety... sometimes it&#039;s faster going across...

Kvarken (alt. Quarken, swe. Kvarken, fin. Merenkurkku, or North Kvarken as opposed to South Kvarken) is the narrow region in the Gulf of Bothnia separating the Bothnian Bay (the inner part of the gulf) from the Bothnian Sea. The distance from Swedish mainland to Finnish mainland is around 80 km while the distance between the outmost islands is only 25 km. The water depth in the Kvarken region is only around 25 meters. The region also has an exceptional rate of land rising at about 1 cm a year.

On the Finnish side of Kvarken, there is a large archipelago with most of the small islands inhabited. The archipelago is smaller on the Swedish side of the region with much steeper shores. The Kvarken region was historically also important for the delivery of postal mail as the sea was completely frozen from the Swedish to the Finnish coast. This route was then used very frequently under the Swedish rule for delivery of postal mail. The region, with its close proximity to Sweden, played an important role in the Finnish wars against the Soviet Union (Russia).

In the group of islands in the &quot;middle&quot; of the Kvarken region, called swe. Valsörarna -- fin. Valassaaret, is a 36 meter high lighthouse designed by Gustave Eiffel. The lighthouse is now automated as most lighthouses are in Finland.

There have been proposals for a bridge across the strait, at a cost of about 1-1.5 billion Euros. There are islands in the strait, and the sum of the lengths of the probably three bridge parts would be about 40 km. The Swedish minister of finance has said it is an interesting thought, but still this idea is decades from completion. There is a debate in the coastal cities on both sides, like UmeÃƒÂ¥ and Vaasa. The official view from the Swedish and Finnish governments is that it is much too expensive.

...and you wouldn&#039;t believe how much they&#039;ve spent on these studies for decades...

...but if we just wait a few thousand of years - we&#039;ll be able to walk over (because of the earth rising) ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah&#8230; the closest town to us in Vaasa isn&#8217;t Seinäjoki &#8211; it&#8217;s UmeÃƒÂ¥, in Sweden&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;and the ferry is seen as a joke by many &#8211; but with some urgent shipments from ABB, Wärtsilä or Scott Health &amp; Safety&#8230; sometimes it&#8217;s faster going across&#8230;</p>
<p>Kvarken (alt. Quarken, swe. Kvarken, fin. Merenkurkku, or North Kvarken as opposed to South Kvarken) is the narrow region in the Gulf of Bothnia separating the Bothnian Bay (the inner part of the gulf) from the Bothnian Sea. The distance from Swedish mainland to Finnish mainland is around 80 km while the distance between the outmost islands is only 25 km. The water depth in the Kvarken region is only around 25 meters. The region also has an exceptional rate of land rising at about 1 cm a year.</p>
<p>On the Finnish side of Kvarken, there is a large archipelago with most of the small islands inhabited. The archipelago is smaller on the Swedish side of the region with much steeper shores. The Kvarken region was historically also important for the delivery of postal mail as the sea was completely frozen from the Swedish to the Finnish coast. This route was then used very frequently under the Swedish rule for delivery of postal mail. The region, with its close proximity to Sweden, played an important role in the Finnish wars against the Soviet Union (Russia).</p>
<p>In the group of islands in the &#8220;middle&#8221; of the Kvarken region, called swe. Valsörarna &#8212; fin. Valassaaret, is a 36 meter high lighthouse designed by Gustave Eiffel. The lighthouse is now automated as most lighthouses are in Finland.</p>
<p>There have been proposals for a bridge across the strait, at a cost of about 1-1.5 billion Euros. There are islands in the strait, and the sum of the lengths of the probably three bridge parts would be about 40 km. The Swedish minister of finance has said it is an interesting thought, but still this idea is decades from completion. There is a debate in the coastal cities on both sides, like UmeÃƒÂ¥ and Vaasa. The official view from the Swedish and Finnish governments is that it is much too expensive.</p>
<p>&#8230;and you wouldn&#8217;t believe how much they&#8217;ve spent on these studies for decades&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;but if we just wait a few thousand of years &#8211; we&#8217;ll be able to walk over (because of the earth rising) <img src='http://www.finlandforthought.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Freeridin' Franklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freeridin' Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 17:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The know-how is available for sale, and there are enough sellers in Russia, China and Europe who would be happy to oblige.&lt;/i&gt;

According to the sacred principles of the Free Market everything must be for sale. The protectionist Kommiez across the pond don&#039;t seem to oblige, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The know-how is available for sale, and there are enough sellers in Russia, China and Europe who would be happy to oblige.</i></p>
<p>According to the sacred principles of the Free Market everything must be for sale. The protectionist Kommiez across the pond don&#8217;t seem to oblige, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Freeridin' Franklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freeridin' Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 16:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Come to think of it, that may not be so bad an ending. Question is, if they do Nuke themselves, do they still get 72 Virgins?&lt;/i&gt;

Nah. If you accidentally nuke yourself and fail to take infidels with you, you will enter paradise with 72 right hands (the left being unclean and all).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Come to think of it, that may not be so bad an ending. Question is, if they do Nuke themselves, do they still get 72 Virgins?</i></p>
<p>Nah. If you accidentally nuke yourself and fail to take infidels with you, you will enter paradise with 72 right hands (the left being unclean and all).</p>
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		<title>By: Anton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 15:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole &quot;suitcase nuke&quot; thing turned out out to be slightly exaggerated, the smallest &quot;portable&quot; nuke is the size of a vending machine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole &#8220;suitcase nuke&#8221; thing turned out out to be slightly exaggerated, the smallest &#8220;portable&#8221; nuke is the size of a vending machine.</p>
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		<title>By: Finnpundit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Finnpundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 14:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t buy that their clerics or the islamic leadership in general is crazy enough to test the doctrine of mutually assured destruction.&lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t think that missile-delivered nukes are the thing to worry about.  All you need is a suitcase smuggled into a capital city, or Israel, in order to make a statement, followed by denials that Iran had anything to do with it.

As to their progress on the job, the Pakistanis surprised the world with their alacrity, as well as the Indians.  The know-how is available for sale, and there are enough sellers in Russia, China and Europe who would be happy to oblige.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t buy that their clerics or the islamic leadership in general is crazy enough to test the doctrine of mutually assured destruction.</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that missile-delivered nukes are the thing to worry about.  All you need is a suitcase smuggled into a capital city, or Israel, in order to make a statement, followed by denials that Iran had anything to do with it.</p>
<p>As to their progress on the job, the Pakistanis surprised the world with their alacrity, as well as the Indians.  The know-how is available for sale, and there are enough sellers in Russia, China and Europe who would be happy to oblige.</p>
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		<title>By: winter</title>
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		<dc:creator>winter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 00:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually the USA does not load the targeting data into any Nuke weapon until just before launch.

Thus your theory that they are pointed at each other is technically not true.

As for the Iranians, they will probably nuke themselves in an accident long before they ever get a working weapon. Come to think of it, that may not be so bad an ending. Question is, if they do Nuke themselves, do they still get 72 Virgins?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually the USA does not load the targeting data into any Nuke weapon until just before launch.</p>
<p>Thus your theory that they are pointed at each other is technically not true.</p>
<p>As for the Iranians, they will probably nuke themselves in an accident long before they ever get a working weapon. Come to think of it, that may not be so bad an ending. Question is, if they do Nuke themselves, do they still get 72 Virgins?</p>
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