Comments on: Major economic problems in Finland http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/04/major-economic-problems-in-finland/ Politics, current events, culture - From Finland & United States Sat, 11 Feb 2012 21:08:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Merlin57 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/04/major-economic-problems-in-finland/comment-page-1/#comment-375543 Merlin57 Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:18:49 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/04/major-economic-problems-in-finland/#comment-375543 ConclusionStorytellers are essential throughout times. , ConclusionStorytellers are essential throughout times. ,

]]> By: alexbafana http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/04/major-economic-problems-in-finland/comment-page-1/#comment-56870 alexbafana Wed, 10 May 2006 15:45:04 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/04/major-economic-problems-in-finland/#comment-56870 Somebody commented that a great average education level is the only way how western economies will be able to withstand the competition from China, India, etc. Well, check out this document: http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:HLkQNaz1FFgJ:www.internationaltraderelations.com/Blinder.Offshoring%2520(Foreign%2520Affairs,%2520March-April%25202006).pdf+Offshoring:+The+Next&hl=nl&gl=nl&ct=clnk&cd=8&client=firefox-a It argues that it is not so much the education level but the amount of personal service that a society can offer. As the service sector is rather poorly developed in Finland because the government has hijacked it, the future of Finland should not be all too good, unliss things change in that respect. Somebody commented that a great average education level is the only way how western economies will be able to withstand the competition from China, India, etc. Well, check out this document: http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:HLkQNaz1FFgJ:www.internationaltraderelations.com/Blinder.Offshoring%2520(Foreign%2520Affairs,%2520March-April%25202006).pdf+Offshoring:+The+Next&hl=nl&gl=nl&ct=clnk&cd=8&client=firefox-a
It argues that it is not so much the education level but the amount of personal service that a society can offer. As the service sector is rather poorly developed in Finland because the government has hijacked it, the future of Finland should not be all too good, unliss things change in that respect.

]]> By: alexbafana http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/04/major-economic-problems-in-finland/comment-page-1/#comment-56866 alexbafana Wed, 10 May 2006 15:39:25 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/04/major-economic-problems-in-finland/#comment-56866 Strange blog. Why is Finland having economic problems when the economy will grow some 3,9% this year? Strange blog. Why is Finland having economic problems when the economy will grow some 3,9% this year?

]]> By: Freeridin' Franklin http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/04/major-economic-problems-in-finland/comment-page-1/#comment-56196 Freeridin' Franklin Sun, 07 May 2006 16:57:53 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/04/major-economic-problems-in-finland/#comment-56196 <i>And that does indicate a realization that their arguments are failing in the face of superior logic.</i> "Superior logic"? That was a good one. <i>In the end, welfare states can only survive by creating the illusion that higher educational standards are all that are needed for the survival of the welfare states, when in fact such states are completely dependent on the exploitation of the American worker-consumer.</i> And the American worker-consumer is in turn dependent on welfare states to provide an educated workforce, as the American educational system is unable to do so. Quid pro quo. And that does indicate a realization that their arguments are failing in the face of superior logic.

“Superior logic”? That was a good one.

In the end, welfare states can only survive by creating the illusion that higher educational standards are all that are needed for the survival of the welfare states, when in fact such states are completely dependent on the exploitation of the American worker-consumer.

And the American worker-consumer is in turn dependent on welfare states to provide an educated workforce, as the American educational system is unable to do so. Quid pro quo.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/04/major-economic-problems-in-finland/comment-page-1/#comment-56193 Anonymous Sun, 07 May 2006 16:39:43 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/04/major-economic-problems-in-finland/#comment-56193 <i>Actually, it seems that Finns are the ones that cannot argue without the use of profanities.</i> Finnbundit is either paranoid or lying about his nationality? Actually, it seems that Finns are the ones that cannot argue without the use of profanities.

Finnbundit is either paranoid or lying about his nationality?

]]> By: Finnpundit http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/04/major-economic-problems-in-finland/comment-page-1/#comment-56188 Finnpundit Sun, 07 May 2006 14:27:14 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/04/major-economic-problems-in-finland/#comment-56188 Actually, it seems that Finns are the ones that cannot argue without the use of profanities. And that does indicate a realization that their arguments are failing in the face of superior logic. In the end, welfare states can only survive by creating the illusion that higher educational standards are all that are needed for the survival of the welfare states, when in fact such states are completely dependent on the exploitation of the American worker-consumer. Actually, it seems that Finns are the ones that cannot argue without the use of profanities. And that does indicate a realization that their arguments are failing in the face of superior logic.

In the end, welfare states can only survive by creating the illusion that higher educational standards are all that are needed for the survival of the welfare states, when in fact such states are completely dependent on the exploitation of the American worker-consumer.

]]> By: AnnaSeMulle http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/04/major-economic-problems-in-finland/comment-page-1/#comment-56102 AnnaSeMulle Sat, 06 May 2006 05:34:08 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/04/major-economic-problems-in-finland/#comment-56102 A summary of the comments on this website: RandomFinn: Finland is the best place to live! RandomAmerican: No, America is the best place to live! RandomFinn: Fuck you, American. RandomAmerican: Fuck you, Finn. Variables include syntax, verb tense, vocabulary, and links. The message, however, is the same. A summary of the comments on this website:

RandomFinn: Finland is the best place to live!

RandomAmerican: No, America is the best place to live!

RandomFinn: Fuck you, American.

RandomAmerican: Fuck you, Finn.

Variables include syntax, verb tense, vocabulary, and links. The message, however, is the same.

]]> By: Freeridin' Franklin http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/04/major-economic-problems-in-finland/comment-page-1/#comment-56017 Freeridin' Franklin Fri, 05 May 2006 18:49:58 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/04/major-economic-problems-in-finland/#comment-56017 <i>It’s a term of endearment, if anything.</i> Well, since you put it that way... I'm not quite sure how to feel about this newfound love, as it is somewhat disturbing, but I'll settle for being flattered. It’s a term of endearment, if anything.

Well, since you put it that way… I’m not quite sure how to feel about this newfound love, as it is somewhat disturbing, but I’ll settle for being flattered.

]]> By: Finnpundit http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/04/major-economic-problems-in-finland/comment-page-1/#comment-55998 Finnpundit Fri, 05 May 2006 17:43:12 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/04/major-economic-problems-in-finland/#comment-55998 Ah, but there is a difference. As the Wikipedia entry notes, using nazis to bolster an argument "portrays an inevitable appeal to emotion as well as holding an implied ad hominem attack on the subject being compared, both of which are fallacious in irrelevant contexts." However, using the term Kommie Klutz Kidz, rather than the term commie, simply evokes the comedic appeal similar to that of The Three Stooges, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Three_Stooges or, for example, the Keystone Kops. Like the Keystone Kops, Kommie Klutz Kidz tend to cluster in comically angry groups, trying to restore some sort of familiar social order whenever confronted with more mercurial individualism inherent in capitalism. The arguments used are always those of the Old Left, which are invoked in the kind of knee-jerk fashion inherent in slapstick comedy. It's a term of endearment, if anything. Ah, but there is a difference. As the Wikipedia entry notes, using nazis to bolster an argument “portrays an inevitable appeal to emotion as well as holding an implied ad hominem attack on the subject being compared, both of which are fallacious in irrelevant contexts.”

However, using the term Kommie Klutz Kidz, rather than the term commie, simply evokes the comedic appeal similar to that of The Three Stooges,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Three_Stooges

or, for example, the Keystone Kops.

Like the Keystone Kops, Kommie Klutz Kidz tend to cluster in comically angry groups, trying to restore some sort of familiar social order whenever confronted with more mercurial individualism inherent in capitalism. The arguments used are always those of the Old Left, which are invoked in the kind of knee-jerk fashion inherent in slapstick comedy.

It’s a term of endearment, if anything.

]]> By: Freeridin' Franklin http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/04/major-economic-problems-in-finland/comment-page-1/#comment-55996 Freeridin' Franklin Fri, 05 May 2006 17:07:43 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/04/major-economic-problems-in-finland/#comment-55996 <i>Hooray, let’s all invent our own “laws”.</i> Godwin's Law is pretty established. Your law is an application of it. The problem with Godwin's Law is that it doesn't properly address the situation in which the other party really is a nazi, or, say, a "Kommie". Hooray, let’s all invent our own “laws”.

Godwin’s Law is pretty established. Your law is an application of it.

The problem with Godwin’s Law is that it doesn’t properly address the situation in which the other party really is a nazi, or, say, a “Kommie”.

]]> By: Freeridin' Franklin http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/04/major-economic-problems-in-finland/comment-page-1/#comment-55991 Freeridin' Franklin Fri, 05 May 2006 16:17:11 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/04/major-economic-problems-in-finland/#comment-55991 <i>By the way, it seems that quite a few of the finnish libertarians have been formerly known as neo-nazis. I’ve always suspected a link of somekind between the ideologies but can someone confirm it?</i> Many libertarians have strong Nazi sympathies to say the least. There's more to the ideology than meets the eye, it's not just about freedom, peace, love and free market flowerpower. By the way, it seems that quite a few of the finnish libertarians have been formerly known as neo-nazis. I’ve always suspected a link of somekind between the ideologies but can someone confirm it?

Many libertarians have strong Nazi sympathies to say the least. There’s more to the ideology than meets the eye, it’s not just about freedom, peace, love and free market flowerpower.

]]> By: Auriga http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/04/major-economic-problems-in-finland/comment-page-1/#comment-55958 Auriga Fri, 05 May 2006 13:53:53 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/04/major-economic-problems-in-finland/#comment-55958 Heh, It seems that the commies have taken over the Freedom House as well. Finland is number one in freedom of the press. http://www.freedomhouse.org/template.cfm?page=70&release=356 Heh,
It seems that the commies have taken over the Freedom House as well. Finland is number one in freedom of the press.

http://www.freedomhouse.org/template.cfm?page=70&release=356

]]> By: Åboy http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/04/major-economic-problems-in-finland/comment-page-1/#comment-55943 Åboy Fri, 05 May 2006 13:13:10 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/04/major-economic-problems-in-finland/#comment-55943 Finnbladder wrote: <i>"That kind of a statement has been aptly described in Godwin’s Law"</i> Hooray, let's all invent our own "laws". Okay. It's nice to invent ones own laws apparently. In that case I'll make my own law too. It's "the law of the dumbass". The law goes like this: "At some point it is evident that a person will call another person a Kommie Klutz Kid. At that point the person calling the other person by this name is deemed a total dumbass with no shred of credibility whatsoever." I think someone has already broken this law. Finnbladder wrote:
“That kind of a statement has been aptly described in Godwin’s Law”

Hooray, let’s all invent our own “laws”.

Okay. It’s nice to invent ones own laws apparently. In that case I’ll make my own law too. It’s “the law of the dumbass”. The law goes like this: “At some point it is evident that a person will call another person a Kommie Klutz Kid. At that point the person calling the other person by this name is deemed a total dumbass with no shred of credibility whatsoever.”

I think someone has already broken this law.

]]> By: tony bee http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/04/major-economic-problems-in-finland/comment-page-1/#comment-55914 tony bee Fri, 05 May 2006 11:54:04 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/04/major-economic-problems-in-finland/#comment-55914 The OECD also released a report on Finland's economy yesterday. Finland's economy is performing extraordinarily well, they dare to suggest. Is there no end to the communist consipracy? WHo do they think they're fooling? "Major economic problems in Finland" would have, of course, been the correct phrasing. And it would not have been the OECD if they had not been suggesting cutting down on the goverment spending and more flexibility in the labor market (read: wider income distribution). The OECD also released a report on Finland’s economy yesterday. Finland’s economy is performing extraordinarily well, they dare to suggest. Is there no end to the communist consipracy? WHo do they think they’re fooling? “Major economic problems in Finland” would have, of course, been the correct phrasing.

And it would not have been the OECD if they had not been suggesting cutting down on the goverment spending and more flexibility in the labor market (read: wider income distribution).

]]> By: m http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/04/major-economic-problems-in-finland/comment-page-1/#comment-55897 m Fri, 05 May 2006 11:10:34 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/05/04/major-economic-problems-in-finland/#comment-55897 "Europe inherently shapes its policies around the notion that there is value in weakness" Europe has had it's experiences of social darwinism. We didn't like it and we're done with it. If you're interested, read more at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_germany “Europe inherently shapes its policies around the notion that there is value in weakness”

Europe has had it’s experiences of social darwinism. We didn’t like it and we’re done with it.

If you’re interested, read more at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_germany

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