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Birger Holm — Sat, 29 Apr 2006 07:06:43 +0000

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By: Åboy

Åboy — Sat, 25 Mar 2006 09:47:05 +0000

In case you haven’t heard, winter, it’s called “irony”. Although I do understand that it is wasted on the simple people.

By: winter

winter — Fri, 24 Mar 2006 23:04:45 +0000

Freerinin

You callin Aboy a “pansy-ass hippie”? Because he sure fits the bill.

By: Freeridin' Franklin

Freeridin' Franklin — Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:17:13 +0000

Second. You have no clue about war. Its ugly and not fair. But in the course of war bad thing happen.

Yeah, shit happens. Like on 9/11. I don’t know why these pansy-ass hippies get all worked about things like these. It’s just business as usual.

By: winter

winter — Fri, 24 Mar 2006 13:42:02 +0000

Aboy

Yes its the OIL again. And right now we are all swimming in it.

Gee, I must send a note to Bush and thank him.

By: Åboy

Åboy — Thu, 23 Mar 2006 22:50:44 +0000

“The USA does not care about Human rights anymore”

As if it ever did.

“The USA will just take on the truly evil ones”

No. Bush and his cronies take on the ones which they think they can make the best profit out of. Nothing to do with the targets being “evil” or not.

By: winter

winter — Thu, 23 Mar 2006 13:32:45 +0000

The world has now changed after 9/11.

The USA does not care about Human rights anymore, if you all in the EU want that banner, go ahead and take it. You can start with DARFUR. The USA has no plans on preaching anything. Like I said, we just don’t care.

The USA will just take on the truly evil ones, that “we” think need to go down.

By: Kimmo W.

Kimmo W. — Thu, 23 Mar 2006 05:41:08 +0000

“…when Sadam (sic.) was executing all thouse people, did we see even a small march in the EU against Sadam?”

Europe has certainly shown inexcusable indifference toward human rights abuses, but the United States is in no position to preach in that regard. When Saddam perpetrated his worst atrocities against Iran and its own people, it was business as usual.

It wasn’t until the Kuwait thing that this great trading partner was suddenly seen as the focus of evil in the world.

By: winter

winter — Wed, 22 Mar 2006 23:17:10 +0000

You state the USA is doing war crimes (Yet in fact we prosocute our war crimes), you march against the USA on every pretext. Yet when Sadam was executing all those people, did we see even a small march in the EU against Sadam?

I think not. You have a zero case.

You all say you disliked Sadam, and yet you supported him (Just look at what the oil for food program produced).

Now do something, like Fred Fry suggested and get out there and protest against Iran.

But no, i really don’t think I will see that. Just more protests against the evil USA.

By: Fred Fry

Fred Fry — Wed, 22 Mar 2006 19:04:20 +0000

Not for anything, but Europe was given the opportunity to handle Iran and gee two years later we are again with the Security council trying to figure out what to do…….

Great job Europe.

By: Kimmo W.

Kimmo W. — Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:15:01 +0000

A couple of points:

Yes, Saddam was a bloodthirsty tyrant, but the USA had no problem with that when his bloodlust was focused on Iran, and his own national minorities. The Americans turned a blind eye to the gassing of the Kurds, and even to the firing of missiles at a US Navy vessel in the Persian Gulf.

And it really is interesting that the BBC – the state-run broadcaster of Bush’s most loyal ally in the Gulf War – is suddenly seen as the font of misinformation by the neocon crowd.

By: P

Wed, 22 Mar 2006 17:17:11 +0000

winter if thats how you truly see and think about this subject and other things.

Then you truly are a moron

By: Åboy

Åboy — Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:53:27 +0000

*Sigh*

Dear winter,

Are you serious? I seem to have a far superiour understanding of warfare when compared to you. Under the international human rights agreements and the Geneva Convention no war can justify anykind of atrocities targetting innocent civilian population or prisoners of war. No matter how upset or frustrated your soldiers are. This should be clear even to american troops. What the american troops are doing, if they really are reenacting the horrors of My Lai, are actually war crimes.

“When Sadam was shot at, he executed the entire village and all resistance stopped. Yet I see no complaint from you?”

Are you as inane as you seem or are you just pretending? How could you know anything of how I felt about Saddam when he was in power? Of course I abhor the horrendous things that happened under Saddam’s rule, but are you saying that since the americans were able to overthrow Saddam they have the right to do whatever they please in Iraq??

Think again, I implore you. I’m beginning to feel though that you’re not worth the time and effort of trying to explain this.