Comments on: Helsingin Sanomat’s views on Conan’s visit http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/02/13/helsingin-sanomat-belittles-conans-visit/ Politics, current events, culture - From Finland & United States Sat, 11 Feb 2012 21:08:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: kyrasantae http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/02/13/helsingin-sanomat-belittles-conans-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-39402 kyrasantae Sat, 25 Feb 2006 02:30:49 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/02/13/helsingin-sanomat-belittles-conans-visit/#comment-39402 Can someone let me know what Conan was attempting to say (in Finnish) and what it means in English? Can someone let me know what Conan was attempting to say (in Finnish) and what it means in English?

]]> By: jorma6484242 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/02/13/helsingin-sanomat-belittles-conans-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-33959 jorma6484242 Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:02:08 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/02/13/helsingin-sanomat-belittles-conans-visit/#comment-33959 no one speaks finnish better than me no one speaks finnish better than me

]]> By: Ducky http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/02/13/helsingin-sanomat-belittles-conans-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-33773 Ducky Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:15:04 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/02/13/helsingin-sanomat-belittles-conans-visit/#comment-33773 "By Hank W. Yes, but then again we have Neil Hardwick" Ah yes. Englishman who speaks Finnish better than any of us Finns. “By Hank W. Yes, but then again we have Neil Hardwick”

Ah yes. Englishman who speaks Finnish better than any of us Finns.

]]> By: M http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/02/13/helsingin-sanomat-belittles-conans-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-33721 M Tue, 14 Feb 2006 17:19:52 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/02/13/helsingin-sanomat-belittles-conans-visit/#comment-33721 Ihana Aamu http://www.alfawave.fi/videos/Conan_O_Brien-Ihana_Aamu.140206.avi or http://www.megaupload.com/fi/?d=8JK915EJ Ihana Aamu
http://www.alfawave.fi/videos/Conan_O_Brien-Ihana_Aamu.140206.avi
or
http://www.megaupload.com/fi/?d=8JK915EJ

]]> By: M http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/02/13/helsingin-sanomat-belittles-conans-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-33718 M Tue, 14 Feb 2006 17:15:42 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/02/13/helsingin-sanomat-belittles-conans-visit/#comment-33718 Conan on Huomenta Suomi http://www.elisanet.fi/jetropag/stuff/2006-02-14_mtv3_huomenta_suomi_conan.avi Pretty embarassing... Conan on Huomenta Suomi
http://www.elisanet.fi/jetropag/stuff/2006-02-14_mtv3_huomenta_suomi_conan.avi

Pretty embarassing…

]]> By: Pave http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/02/13/helsingin-sanomat-belittles-conans-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-33704 Pave Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:50:30 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/02/13/helsingin-sanomat-belittles-conans-visit/#comment-33704 Haven't seen anyone post this link yet so... It's Conan on the Today Show. http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?f=00&g=43db59e5-4931-4aef-9094-beee16d7b76e&t=m5&p=Source_Today%20Show Not the same Conan i'm used to seeing, seems kinda nervous too... :P Btw, is that press conference footage yours Phil? At least it was taken very close to you. That laughter sounds familiar... :) Haven’t seen anyone post this link yet so… It’s Conan on the Today Show. http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?f=00&g=43db59e5-4931-4aef-9094-beee16d7b76e&t=m5&p=Source_Today%20Show

Not the same Conan i’m used to seeing, seems kinda nervous too… :P
Btw, is that press conference footage yours Phil? At least it was taken very close to you. That laughter sounds familiar… :)

]]> By: Hank W. http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/02/13/helsingin-sanomat-belittles-conans-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-33685 Hank W. Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:29:40 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/02/13/helsingin-sanomat-belittles-conans-visit/#comment-33685 <i>Keith Armstrong has lived in Finland for 25 yrs and still speaks Finnish in a weird way.</i> Yes, but then again we have Neil Hardwick ;) Keith Armstrong has lived in Finland for 25 yrs and still speaks Finnish in a weird way.

Yes, but then again we have Neil Hardwick ;)

]]> By: Miriam http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/02/13/helsingin-sanomat-belittles-conans-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-33680 Miriam Tue, 14 Feb 2006 13:38:58 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/02/13/helsingin-sanomat-belittles-conans-visit/#comment-33680 Wiseguy was a TV-series in the late 80's and possibly early 90's, where Ken Wahl played an undercover cop who infiltrated the Mob. Ken Wahl was, I believe, brought to Finland by the celeb manager Hessu Reijonen, who was also later responsible for inundating us with Bold and Beautiful people. I do have hazy memories that Wahl, too, was flown around Finland in a helicopter from tanssilava to tanssilava some Midsummer Night back in the days. He was also chronically drunk, which is why he made some headlines misbehavin' around Finland. Wiseguy was a TV-series in the late 80′s and possibly early 90′s, where Ken Wahl played an undercover cop who infiltrated the Mob.
Ken Wahl was, I believe, brought to Finland by the celeb manager Hessu Reijonen, who was also later responsible for inundating us with Bold and Beautiful people.
I do have hazy memories that Wahl, too, was flown around Finland in a helicopter from tanssilava to tanssilava some Midsummer Night back in the days. He was also chronically drunk, which is why he made some headlines misbehavin’ around Finland.

]]> By: hfb http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/02/13/helsingin-sanomat-belittles-conans-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-33673 hfb Tue, 14 Feb 2006 13:22:38 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/02/13/helsingin-sanomat-belittles-conans-visit/#comment-33673 Christ, I must be getting old as I know who Ryan O'Neil is (as in Tatum's father) and William Conrad from the Cannon series in the 70's. And Jenkki Immigrant :) Quite funny. For some reason I've never had a problem ordering booze. Maybe when I'm drunk I speak Finnish as she is most often spoken and understood...with a slur :D Christ, I must be getting old as I know who Ryan O’Neil is (as in Tatum’s father) and William Conrad from the Cannon series in the 70′s.

And Jenkki Immigrant :) Quite funny. For some reason I’ve never had a problem ordering booze. Maybe when I’m drunk I speak Finnish as she is most often spoken and understood…with a slur :D

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/02/13/helsingin-sanomat-belittles-conans-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-33650 Anonymous Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:42:01 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/02/13/helsingin-sanomat-belittles-conans-visit/#comment-33650 What else SubTV is than a teen channel? There's hardly anything worth watching on MTV3, SubTV etc. At least YLE has scientific documents and culture programs, not commercial crap like MTV3 and SubTV. What else SubTV is than a teen channel? There’s hardly anything worth watching on MTV3, SubTV etc. At least YLE has scientific documents and culture programs, not commercial crap like MTV3 and SubTV.

]]> By: A Finn http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/02/13/helsingin-sanomat-belittles-conans-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-33639 A Finn Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:00:59 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/02/13/helsingin-sanomat-belittles-conans-visit/#comment-33639 The meanings have greatly changed from the article in Finnish. The problem with turning Finnish into English is that English lacks a lot of words conserning the same thing in a different perspective, so there may only be negative one/two-word ways to express a Finnish word with a "pretty good, but not perfect"-meaning*, or only positive one/two-word expressions for a "absolute crap, but there's a bit of positive about it"**. *reference to articles "passable Finnish" **reference to the way too positive phrase "it was ok" I've seen in all kinds of music review translations The meanings have greatly changed from the article in Finnish. The problem with turning Finnish into English is that English lacks a lot of words conserning the same thing in a different perspective, so there may only be negative one/two-word ways to express a Finnish word with a “pretty good, but not perfect”-meaning*, or only positive one/two-word expressions for a “absolute crap, but there’s a bit of positive about it”**.

*reference to articles “passable Finnish”
**reference to the way too positive phrase “it was ok” I’ve seen in all kinds of music review translations

]]> By: jenkki immigrant http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/02/13/helsingin-sanomat-belittles-conans-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-33636 jenkki immigrant Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:57:07 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/02/13/helsingin-sanomat-belittles-conans-visit/#comment-33636 oh, and the bottles do say "dry" on them in case no one has noticed. oh, and the bottles do say “dry” on them in case no one has noticed.

]]> By: jenkki immigrant http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/02/13/helsingin-sanomat-belittles-conans-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-33635 jenkki immigrant Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:56:13 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/02/13/helsingin-sanomat-belittles-conans-visit/#comment-33635 never had problem ordering coffee before, but once i went to the bar to get my old lady a cider. i had asked her what she wanted and she said "dry omena siideri". i went to the bar and said ""drai" omena siideri". the bartender opened 3 bottles before i noticed what he was doing, said some german-sounding grunts which i must assume were numbers, then said danke. i laughed my ass off.. never had problem ordering coffee before, but once i went to the bar to get my old lady a cider. i had asked her what she wanted and she said “dry omena siideri”. i went to the bar and said “”drai” omena siideri”. the bartender opened 3 bottles before i noticed what he was doing, said some german-sounding grunts which i must assume were numbers, then said danke. i laughed my ass off..

]]> By: Ducky http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/02/13/helsingin-sanomat-belittles-conans-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-33624 Ducky Tue, 14 Feb 2006 08:55:52 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/02/13/helsingin-sanomat-belittles-conans-visit/#comment-33624 …and hey, don’t you think “phonetic” should be spelled with an ‘F’ ?? Uh oh, actually no (heh, it rhymes). Grab your dictionary and check. It starts "ph" in English. There's many words what makes you wonder "Ph" or "f" (photo -> foto etc.) What comes to understanding Conan's Finnish, I understood it all, you just have to listen to it in a bit different way than you listen to native Finn to speak it. And I think it's just great that he did something like that, Finnish after all is the world's 3rd hardest language and when you compare pronouncing between Finnish and English - it's totally different. And how many times you've wondered "what a...?" when some Finn has spoken English? So what's the big deal? Keith Armstrong has lived in Finland for 25 yrs and still speaks Finnish in a weird way. And of HS comments... I don't read such a garbage ;) ....just kidding. -Ducky …and hey, don’t you think “phonetic” should be spelled with an ‘F’ ??

Uh oh, actually no (heh, it rhymes). Grab your dictionary and check. It starts “ph” in English. There’s many words what makes you wonder “Ph” or “f” (photo -> foto etc.)

What comes to understanding Conan’s Finnish, I understood it all, you just have to listen to it in a bit different way than you listen to native Finn to speak it. And I think it’s just great that he did something like that, Finnish after all is the world’s 3rd hardest language and when you compare pronouncing between Finnish and English – it’s totally different. And how many times you’ve wondered “what a…?” when some Finn has spoken English?
So what’s the big deal?

Keith Armstrong has lived in Finland for 25 yrs and still speaks Finnish in a weird way.

And of HS comments… I don’t read such a garbage ;)
….just kidding.

-Ducky

]]> By: Joonas http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/02/13/helsingin-sanomat-belittles-conans-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-33623 Joonas Tue, 14 Feb 2006 08:51:19 +0000 http://www.finlandforthought.net/2006/02/13/helsingin-sanomat-belittles-conans-visit/#comment-33623 <i>Okay, I won’t cheat and Google this first - Who the fuck are Ryan O’Neal, William Conrad, and Ken “Wiseguy” Wahl? Am I too young for these shows or is it some British mumbojumbo?</i> Hey, I remember <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Conrad" rel="nofollow">William Conrad</a> from the 80s show "Jake and the Fat Man" and even that Wiseguy show was on some years back, I think. And I'm not even that old, scary! :D Okay, I won’t cheat and Google this first – Who the fuck are Ryan O’Neal, William Conrad, and Ken “Wiseguy” Wahl? Am I too young for these shows or is it some British mumbojumbo?

Hey, I remember William Conrad from the 80s show “Jake and the Fat Man” and even that Wiseguy show was on some years back, I think. And I’m not even that old, scary! :D

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