Also this Sunday, Terhi Pirilä of Young Kokoomus
Also appearing live on this Sunday’s Radio Free Finland, Young Kokoomus’ (Kokoomusnuoret) press secretary, Terhi Pirilä. She’ll be on to discuss Sauli Niinstö’s Presidential campaign, the National Coalition Party, and Kokoomusnuoret.
While she’s not working at their downtown headquarters in Helsinki, she studies TV & Radio at Helsinki Polytechnic and is active in local politics in her hometown of Ilmajoki.
Hmmm…. is she free?
As a sidenote; are you looking forward to rupturing your spleen?
http://www.blogigo.co.uk/socialdemocracynow/entry/52911
You’re now infamous along with Finnpundit
Comment by Hank W. — Fri, Feb 3rd, 2006 @ 6:44 pm
nice link hank dubya. socialdemocracynow makes some pretty decent points but the article seemed pretty heavy on the phil bashing. everyone is entitled to an opinion. so phil hates the hand that feeds him. big deal. in a free society he has the right to express that hate. no need for that blog author to get so personal in his phil exposure.
Comment by jenkki immigrant — Fri, Feb 3rd, 2006 @ 7:43 pm
I mean seriously; I know Phil, like personally, from way before the blog made him famous on CNN. We noticed his interest in political rants… err… issues from the start – And charged him a Foreign Letters in Surname Tax one crisp April Fool’s morning
Now while Phil undoubtedly ruffles a few feathers, I find the value in that as I take the Finnish stuff “for granted” – there needs to be someone yelling “the Emperor is buck naked”. Not that I approve of the thong he is supposed to be wearing.
Then again I am always totally baffled why somone in Oz finds Finland some paradise… heck, you come live here and freeze your nads off and I’ll happily come there wrestle crocodiles -15 today…
We Finns tend to be the worst complainers at times. But we also defend atleast parts of our system. But I am definitely waiting for the third part of philbashery.
Comment by Hank W. — Fri, Feb 3rd, 2006 @ 8:10 pm
Hank, the guy doesn’t even allow comments! What a sorry bastard.
Check also this one (especially comments):
http://finnsense.blogspot.com/
Comment by pikkupoika — Fri, Feb 3rd, 2006 @ 8:57 pm
That article in Socialdemocracy Now was a little like shooting a fly with a cannon (ampua kärpästä tykillä). Phil’s blog is mildly entertaining and occasionally even manages to give a new perspective on some aspect of Finnish society, but come on, who really cares what some juvenile “libertarian” thinks. The world is full of opinions.
Comment by Söderberg — Fri, Feb 3rd, 2006 @ 9:10 pm
Wow, 5 comments and no mention that she is attractive…
Comment by Fred Fry — Fri, Feb 3rd, 2006 @ 9:30 pm
Hank, the guy doesn’t even allow comments!
Heh, typical – makes a bunch of whack comments then doesn’t allow comments and doesn’t reveal his name or face.
How did everyone hear about this article? I’ve had a few of you e-mail it to me, but other than that, I wouldn’t have heard about it.
A lot of the facts in there are totally incorrect. Like I own my own IT company and run it with my girlfriend?? I work for Nokia. My girlfriend is an architect.
Comment by Phil — Fri, Feb 3rd, 2006 @ 9:47 pm
Oh and check this out, the writer is a communist, boastfully anti-Semitic, and openly gay. Helsinkian did some internet research, maybe he can tell you more about it.
Comment by Phil — Fri, Feb 3rd, 2006 @ 9:49 pm
And charged him a Foreign Letters in Surname Tax one crisp April Fool’s morning
You will pay one day for that Hank W!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Phil — Fri, Feb 3rd, 2006 @ 9:50 pm
the anti-semitic stuff was kind of bizarre. the inability to leave comments was sort of disturbing.(in reference to the phil-bashing blog mentioned above). i rarely agree with you phil, but i actually like your forum. you get interesting discussions going regularly, and your opinions aren’t even close to the bizarro-world view of finnpundit.
Comment by jenkki immigrant — Fri, Feb 3rd, 2006 @ 10:21 pm
she’s attractive!
But to hear it only in the 11th post won’t make her happy.
Comment by Majava — Fri, Feb 3rd, 2006 @ 10:26 pm
…älähtää, johon kalikka kalahtaa.
“A lot of the facts in there are totally incorrect. Like I own my own IT company and run it with my girlfriend??”
Oho. Better close this baby down, then.
http://www.filanya.com/about.php
Shame to waste the hosting fees otherwise.
You can do better than that, Phil. The points this Aussie made are moot.
But I agree with #5. Breaking a butterfly on a wheel. The blog’s funny. Completely barking-mad, but funny. Except when he does the ad hominems and economiesw with the truth like those above, and fair dues, he’s out there risking his neck and his name. Yep, barking-mad.
Woof.
Comment by Se koira... — Fri, Feb 3rd, 2006 @ 10:32 pm
Hö; and you all didn’t read the first line of the first comment? That was a hmmmm with intent
Comment by Hank W. — Fri, Feb 3rd, 2006 @ 10:33 pm
I wish I was doing somewhat as to get someone do an attack on me like that
on CNN and bashed by national-social-democratic-workers like that the same week! You’ve got a cult following!
Comment by Hank W. — Fri, Feb 3rd, 2006 @ 10:39 pm
damn Phil that person does not like you. I am getting some real negative vibes from down under. In the words of a great American Social Democrat Rodney King “Can’t we all just get along?”
Comment by Jukka — Fri, Feb 3rd, 2006 @ 10:43 pm
she’s attractive!
The very first sentence in the comments was “Is she free?” !!
Comment by Phil — Fri, Feb 3rd, 2006 @ 10:43 pm
Oho. Better close this baby down, then.
That’s a fake site I made years ago when I was unemployed, I didn’t want to be such a “free rider” so I did consulting work till I got a permanent job. The only reason I haven’t taken it down is cause I like the design of the site. There is no company called Filanya, there are no people involved in it except me.
Comment by Phil — Fri, Feb 3rd, 2006 @ 10:45 pm
How did everyone hear about this article?
Phil, there is this web site I read
BTW, this is SDN’s dedication:
This blog is dedicated to the memory of Swedish prime minister Olof Palme, who was assassinated by the Bush crime family in 1986, and to the President of Venezuela, Hugo Chavez, who is by far the most inspiring figure of political importance in the world today.
I guess Christer Pettersson was innocent after all
Comment by pikkupoika — Fri, Feb 3rd, 2006 @ 11:33 pm
“she’s attractive!”
Doesn’t she resemble Ann Coulter just a little bit? It’s a slight turn off for me.
Comment by Timppa — Fri, Feb 3rd, 2006 @ 11:43 pm
There you go…The young lady obviously have some high aims in her life and all the comments relevant to the original post are about her looks.
Can’t help wondering though, why turn conservative at such an early age. I guess good parties and patricide in case of left-wing parents are acceptable reasons.
Comment by Antti (the redneck one) — Sat, Feb 4th, 2006 @ 12:31 am
Well I don’t give much value to any politician, except for their entertainment value.
Comment by Hank W. — Sat, Feb 4th, 2006 @ 1:00 am
To borrow from Fat Albert, right on Antti. The rest of you guys are a like a day without school … Nooooooo class!
Comment by mapleleaf — Sat, Feb 4th, 2006 @ 1:19 am
antti (the redneck one):”can’t help but wondering though,…” come on man, i’m not even from this country and i figured out with a little bit of research that eteläpohjanmaa (location of ilmajoki, home of blond lady pictured abave) has bred fascists and conservatives for at least a century.
Comment by jenkki immigrant — Sat, Feb 4th, 2006 @ 1:49 am
Greetings, all. Sorry for the sojourn, but I’ve been busy starting a new company. Those things tend to demand a lot of time, but now everything seems launched…
And I have missed y’all, especially Phil, Hank W, and Antti (the redneck one), who seem to be the most sensible people living in Finland today. I’ve actually missed your pithy comments and wit. Of course, I’ve also NOT missed the paltry missives that always emanate, knee-jerk wise, from the standard clutch of Finnish Kommie Klutz Kidz (when will they learn to think ouside of the proverbial box…?) But I suppose it’s important to be patient with the young.
So Phil is going to spend Sunday evening all alone in a quiet room with Terhi Pihila (not counting his podcast audience)? It should be an interesting download, later. I actually had the dubious fortune to meet a bunch of Finnish parliamentary delegates recently, on a Finnish taxpayer-sponsored trip to New York. It was interesting to note that all the lefties in that group were, as Antti would say, “flower-hatted aunties”, while the Kokoomus rep was an absolute babe. What gives?
As to that Social Democracy Now fellow, I’d offer one observation, based on reading of a multitude of American political blogs since 9/11: it truly is amazing that while the right-wing blogs give cursory comments about left-wing bloggers, left-wingers (such as Atrios, Daily Kos, and Matthew Iglesias) will spend an inordinate amount of time in personal character-assassination of right wingers (as if Phil was a right-winger). Why is that?
The reason that comes to the fore is simply that the arguments from the right are so cogent and disruptive at this time in history to the ideological foundations of social democracy that rational argumentation has been abandoned, in favor of direct, personal attacks.
This is a sign of desperation, not a sign of confidence in one’s beliefs. Maybe the left will once again offer something worthwhile, in terms of new, viewpoint-altering concepts (as they once did). But for now, they are sadly lacking in ideas, initiatives, and reliable barometers as to what is going on in the world.
Comment by Finnpundit — Sat, Feb 4th, 2006 @ 2:35 am
The left offer something worthwhile? How crude Finnpundi, to even think that way.
But then again the left loves Social Security as a form of moving income from the young to the old.
Then again tax and spend is a usefull idea if you are on the left.
Comment by winter — Sat, Feb 4th, 2006 @ 2:59 am
Ah, excellent point from our jenkki-enforcement. I completely ignored the “pohojalaas”-factor. Even their punk rockers and anarchists do the conscript service.
Comment by Antti (the redneck one) — Sat, Feb 4th, 2006 @ 11:42 am
OMG, Finnpundit and his evil twin Winter is back!
Comment by Anonymous — Sat, Feb 4th, 2006 @ 12:16 pm
part 3 of sdns phil bashing wasn’t nearly as weirdly entertaining as part 2, until he reached the point where he suggests phil is a US secret agent working deep cover in Finland. Phil, is this true? I won’t be surprised if i hear next that you were part of the Roswell, NM cover-up too.
Comment by jenkki immigrant — Sat, Feb 4th, 2006 @ 1:37 pm
Part 3 is up? Sweet. Can’t wait to find out more info about me that I didn’t know about.
Comment by Phil — Sat, Feb 4th, 2006 @ 2:16 pm
DCI DIRECTOR HUMINT LANGLEY STOP
OPERATION WELFARE PARADISE COMPROMISED STOP
REQ HOT RETRIEVAL AFTER I STOP HEATING SAUNA STOP
Comment by FSB listening post number 9 — Sat, Feb 4th, 2006 @ 2:33 pm
Comment by Hank W. — Sat, Feb 4th, 2006 @ 2:35 pm
Well like I said earlier, I’m flattered someone took all this time to research me and write such a lengthy article, it’s a shame it’s more of an bizarre character assassination rather than a critique.
And I’m sorry but I just can’t take someone too seriously when they don’t leave any room for comments and don’t give out their name or photo. At least people have a chance to respond to flammers/trolls on discussion forums, but not on his site, he’s obviously a very weak and insecure person. He does have an e-mail address, I’ve contacted him but haven’t heard back. Then there’s all those anti-Semitic references around his website which just make the whole thing even more comical.
Comment by Phil — Sat, Feb 4th, 2006 @ 2:38 pm
BTW I took down my old filanya.com site. I designed it when I first moved to Finland and was unemployed looking for freelance IT work. I tried to give the impression that I had some real company behind me, so alot of that stuff on that site is untrue. I never thought some wackey Jew-hater was going to discover it and write a report about using info from there. So I’ve moved it and if anyone wants the new link, just e-mail me!
Comment by Phil — Sat, Feb 4th, 2006 @ 2:48 pm
Hey, don’t you see a pattern here, what is going on in the neighbouring countries to russia, the coulour-coded revolutions with the U.S. connections. I bet that’s what Phil is up to. Just wait, the Radio Free Finland plays Grandola, Vila Morena some morning and people will be all over the streets. :p
Comment by Antti (the redneck one) — Sat, Feb 4th, 2006 @ 2:58 pm
phil, you’d better contact headquarters and direct them to liquidate redneck antti. he could compromise the entire operation!
Comment by jenkki immigrant — Sat, Feb 4th, 2006 @ 3:00 pm
he’s obviously a very weak and insecure person
Absolutely, what a loser.
Comment by mapleleaf — Sat, Feb 4th, 2006 @ 3:07 pm
you know, know that i think about, i seem to remember an article in hesari a few months back that was discussing the number of foriegn agents within the helsinki metropolitan area as defined by kehä III. hmmn.
Comment by jenkki immigrant — Sat, Feb 4th, 2006 @ 3:23 pm
DCI DIRECTOR HUMINT LANGLEY STOP
COMMENCE OPERATION CONAN IMMEDIATELY REPEAT IMMEDIATELY STOP
ALL OPERATIVES RECALLED STOP
THIS TELEX COMPROMISED STOP
EOT WBRGDS AZIZ
Comment by FSB listening post number 9 — Sat, Feb 4th, 2006 @ 4:28 pm
I just read Batelle’s The Search and became pretty convinced that it’s not a good idea to reveal your real name on the Net – in particular if you were suggesting that it was the Bushes who killed Olof Palme.
Anyway, the point the guy is making, that there are a lot of people who must prove for ideological reasons that the “Scandinavian model” doesn’t work, is valid. Its working is, after all, against conservative, libertarian, and market fundamantalist “truths”.
Comment by TomiA — Sat, Feb 4th, 2006 @ 4:50 pm
I wouldn’t want something that I posted drunk 15 years ago come bite me in the ass… Hence the anonymity. There are too many kooks out there. If someone wants a “real name” I can fart up a pseudo alter ego – is it better lying than saying how things are?
Comment by Hank W. — Sat, Feb 4th, 2006 @ 5:48 pm
Anyway, the point the guy is making, that there are a lot of people who must prove for ideological reasons that the “Scandinavian model†doesn’t work, is valid. Its working is, after all, against conservative, libertarian, and market fundamantalist “truthsâ€Â.
I don’t think anyone is saying that it doesn’t “work” overall, many are just saying that it would work “better”.
Comment by Phil — Sat, Feb 4th, 2006 @ 6:23 pm
Heck, thats what we say.
Like – “Finland not having corruption -
Look at the Gramex lawsuit. *everyone knows* they’re crooked…
Comment by Hank W. — Sat, Feb 4th, 2006 @ 6:55 pm
Phil,
You imply that it just needs a tweak but you generally argue that the Scandinavian model needs to have less taxes and smaller government. If that’s the case it’s no longer the Scandinavian model but the Anglo-Saxon model. In any case you spend most of your time trying to argue the Scandinavian model is disaster bound.
The point TomiA and the chap who wrote the piece is surely making is that the Scandinavian model works better than the Anglo-Saxon model not just that it can survive, which unless you value GDP above all else, isn’t born out by the best statistics we have.
Comment by finnsense — Sat, Feb 4th, 2006 @ 7:16 pm
“I wouldn’t want something that I posted drunk 15 years ago come bite me in the ass”
Hank for the president!!
Heh, I have a famous namesake, so I could probably post around with my real name and no one, at least in Finland, wouldn’t believe it anyway. Still, my job requires some sort of integrity and credibility easily lost by bullshitting around in the net.
I’m not particularly redneck, but every time I open my mouth in Helsinki, people start to ask about cows and hectares. It’s their fault I chose this to be separated from the other Antti writing here occasionally.
My compliments to Mr. Pundit at #24. Although I respectfully disagree on many of your views, I tried the “Glace de Colonel” with some suspicion that it was a devious trick to spoil the vanilla ice-cream and vodka of the evil freeriders. It turned out to be an excellent combination.
Comment by Antti (the redneck one) — Sat, Feb 4th, 2006 @ 7:36 pm
That Social Democracy Now article was interesting and great fun.
Comment by Sale — Sat, Feb 4th, 2006 @ 11:14 pm
The point TomiA and the chap who wrote the piece is surely making is that the Scandinavian model works better than the Anglo-Saxon model not just that it can survive, which unless you value GDP above all else, isn’t born out by the best statistics we have.
I don’t support the Scandinavian model, nor the “Anglo-Saxon” model.
Comment by Phil — Sun, Feb 5th, 2006 @ 12:57 am
Well.. how about the Estonian model?
Comment by Hank W. — Sun, Feb 5th, 2006 @ 10:31 am
Well.. how about the Estonian model?
Or Chinese. And isn’t the USA considering adopting the Mexican model, perhaps that’s the way to go.
Comment by TomiA — Sun, Feb 5th, 2006 @ 11:16 am
SocialDemocracyNow’s hate speech against Phil bordered on the erotic. Pure bufoonery. Anti-Semitism is not the sole product of the extreme right wing, as SDN has showed us, its unfortunately alive within the ranks of the Left as well.
KGS
Comment by KGS59 — Sun, Feb 5th, 2006 @ 7:07 pm
Last time I checked Karl Marx was jewish.
Comment by Hank W. — Sun, Feb 5th, 2006 @ 7:58 pm
Which is a classic example of someone divorcing himself from his own heritage, if the majority says his Jewishness is to blame, than it must be so.
The Left is full of the ’same type’ mentality, who now demonize the Jewish state, as much as Marx demonized Jews and Judaism.
KGS
Comment by KGS59 — Sun, Feb 5th, 2006 @ 8:55 pm
“Then there’s all those anti-Semitic references around his website which just make the whole thing even more comical.”
Phill, when I briefly went through SDN’s site I saw links that could be described as anti-Zionist, but nothing anti-Semitic. Could somebody show me what I might have missed, please?
Comment by Timppa — Sun, Feb 5th, 2006 @ 10:30 pm
timppa, c’mon… perhaps you don’t get the nuances of english, just as my finnish is sometimes inadaquate. when an essay writer, using the english language, diverges from the topic at hand to expose the subjects possible jewish heritage as if it were negative for he or she to be jewish, this is classic antisemitism. i don’t give a fuck if phil has hittite ancestry… sometimes i agree with him sometimes i don’t… actually quite often i don’t, but when sdn decided to play the jew card, it was in bad taste.
Comment by jenkki immigrant — Mon, Feb 6th, 2006 @ 2:26 am
This SDN entry is essentially anti-semitic. He is promoting Michael Collins Piper (right-winger famous for holocaust denial), whose theory is that JFK was killed by pro-Israeli or Zionist intrests. That might sound as if it is merely anti-Zionist, not anti-semitic but the idea behind such a theory is that Jack Ruby was Jewish.
http://www.blogigo.co.uk/socialdemocracynow/entry/48677
Here SDN again promotes the theory that “JFK was killed by a vast inerlocking network of Zionist interests”.
http://www.blogigo.co.uk/socialdemocracynow/20060104
The purpose of promoting the myth that “JFK was killed by the Israelis” (when Ruby who killed Oswald was an American Jew) is essentially creating a modern-day variant of the Christ-killer myth to use against all Jews. Interestingly, the Israeli that Piper in his bizarre book claims was involved in the JFK assassination, was a social democrat, Yitzhak Rabin.
In this entry SDN takes a swipe at the holocaust consciousness of Swedish social democratic PM Persson:
http://www.blogigo.co.uk/socialdemocracynow/entry/51915
“You have to wonder about what these neo-liberals in social democrat clothing who flaunt their Holocaust consciousness and sensitivity to the Jewish community on every possible occasion. Are these pseudo-social democrats possibly crypto-Jews? And if so are they starting to come out of the closet?”
After reading a lot by SDN I’m convinced he is not merely anti-Zionist or anti-Israel, he is anti-semitic and a supporter of the great Jewish conspiracy theory. This is why he was so interested in whether Phil has Jewish ancestry or not. Remember, he was not interested in whether Phil is pro-Israeli or pro-Zionist.
Footnote: No, Phil I never said SDN is a communist. I was just wondering whether some comments on a communist website were written by him. That has nothing to do with him actually being communist. I think he’s a crypto-fascist sort of authoritarian statist more than a social democrat. The “authentic” social democratic perspective is quite similar to the conspiracy theories propounded by Lyndon LaRouche in the US Democratic Party. His sexual orientation is totally irrelevant to me and if Phil wants to point out someone’s sexual orientation, I’d prefer not to be named as the source. But the political relevance in SDN’s stance on gay rights may explain why never seems to mention LaRouche who is both anti-semitic (like SDN) and anti-gay (unlike SDN). The Bush crime family theory on the murder of Olof Palme sounds like typical LaRouchite propaganda, utterly insane and maliciously slanderous.
Comment by Helsinkian — Mon, Feb 6th, 2006 @ 12:10 pm
Actually, it is SDN himself who is saying Rabin might have been involved in the JFK assassination. That is the most insane claim on the whole blog.
Comment by Helsinkian — Mon, Feb 6th, 2006 @ 12:25 pm
Update: SDN has a new anti-semitic entry about the cartoon issue on his main blog. Btw. he has another blog address where he also solicits comments:
http://socdemnow.blogspot.com/
Comment by Helsinkian — Mon, Feb 6th, 2006 @ 12:52 pm
Phil:“…and openly gay.”
More conservative than libertarian, are we?
Comment by M — Mon, Feb 6th, 2006 @ 3:38 pm
Odd that Google’s bot doesn’t recognise that new blog. I suppose it would be altogether too far-fetched to think it was a recent copy/paste job? I mean, Crowded House? The Smiths? Monty Python? And ONE measly link to Google, nothing to anything else? And no third piece on the cyber-uglies?
The guy’s a certifiable kook, sure, but he has a slightly different M.O.
EUR 0.02 says blogspot is a Yes Men-style lookalike con. It wouldn’t be the first time. And if it is, was it worth the time and effort? It’s only the Internet, after all.
Comment by Curiouser and curioser — Mon, Feb 6th, 2006 @ 5:33 pm
SDN seems to be more than willing to publish any unsubstantiated rumor that supports al-Qaeda on his blog.
http://www.blogigo.co.uk/socialdemocracynow/entry/48303
That’s the entry where he is blaming Israel for the Amman bombing that was carried out by al-Qaeda on November 9, 2005. The rumor that all Jews were taken into security before the bombing follows exactly the old anti-semitic version of 9-11 and then in a footnote, SDN writes:
“A possibility that deserves consideration is that this is a cover story, and that the Israelis who were evacuated from the Hotel a few hours before the bombing were the very intelligence operatives who had organized the bombings.”
To me it sounds like SDN is really taking his cues from Osama. Every single conspiracy theory that he comes up with is so ridiculous there is no way to believe anything on the SDN blog.
I must say the propaganda on SDN blog has the hallmarks of Goebbels. The bigger the lie… That’s the way it works. Pure propaganda and misinformation from start to finish.
Comment by Helsinkian — Mon, Feb 6th, 2006 @ 5:36 pm
“…so ridiculous there is no way to believe anything on the SDN blog…”
Well, not exactly ANYTHING, Helsinkian. That’s too convenient. His views on FfT and Finnpundit were pretty much on the ball.
But I grant you he jumps the shark with his obvious anti-Zionist axe to grind.
File under “garden-variety Internet nutter”. Add another to the long list. Strange old world.
Comment by Anonymous — Mon, Feb 6th, 2006 @ 5:53 pm
jenkki immigrant, yeah I remember the stuff about Phill catholic backround and surname. I thought it was weird and pointles, but you could make the same argument about my name if i told you I was a muslim.
Anyways Phill you’r not a jew, so SDN should apologise lol
So that you all know that was a reference to a south park joke – not a anti-Semitic remark.
My point is that the word in question is a very strong one and it’s sometimes used too lightly. I would say that SDN could very well be an anti-Semite – the claim about the JFK-Rabin connection certainly suggets that he might. But making up conspiracy theories even if they involve a jew shoulnd’t automaticly make one an antisemite. I mean it’s not like he is denying the holocoust or anything, is he? To me it’s enought that he is into conspiracy theories to make his Phill bashing bogus.
Comment by Timppa — Mon, Feb 6th, 2006 @ 6:13 pm
Hi, as you can see this is my first post here.
I will be happy to get some assistance at the start.
Thanks in advance and good luck!
Comment by Versed — Thu, Feb 25th, 2010 @ 3:02 am
The response level to national disaster is noble but it’s a damn shame that so many citizens take advantage of the sad situations.
I mean everytime there is an earthquake, a flood, an oil spill – there’s always a group of heartless people who rip off tax payers.
This is in response to reading that 4 of Oprah Winfreys “angels” got busted ripping off the system. Shame on them!
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/08/19/crimesider/entry5251471.shtml
Comment by excevictergek — Fri, Mar 5th, 2010 @ 9:13 am
WASHINGTON – Two guns utilized in high-profile shootings this year at the Pentagon and a Las Vegas courthouse both came from the still and all unbecoming appropriate: the police and court system of Memphis, Tenn.
Law enforcement officials told The Associated Press that both guns were once seized in wrong cases in Memphis. The officials described how the weapons made their separate ways from an basis vault to gun dealers and to the shooters.
The use of guns that were once in observe protection to malign police officers highlights a little-known divide in gun regulation in the U.S.: Profuse cities and states ruin guns gathered in flagitious probes, but others rat on or customers the weapons in command to profit e avoid other guns or gain patrol equipment.
In incident, on the heyday of the Pentagon shooting, Pace 4, the Tennessee governor signed legislation revising shape law on confiscated guns. Once, law enforcement agencies in the federal had the option of destroying a gun. Under the new idea, agencies can only put an end to a gun if it’s inoperable or unsafe.
Kentucky has a nearly the same law, but it’s not clear how many other states from laws specifically designed to inspirit the protect sales marathon or career of confiscated weapons.
A nationwide review article via The Associated Squeeze in December set up that over the previous two years, 24 states — mostly in the South and West, where gun-rights advocates are only beefy — have planned passed 47 advanced laws loosening gun restrictions. Gun rights groups are making a greater application to pass favorable legislation in affirm capitals.
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Comment by Coamabomy — Sun, Mar 14th, 2010 @ 2:18 pm