Doesn’t exactly surprise me that more americans are likely to have had sex in a car, considering more americans are likely to be in cars more often in general.

Although the “sex on public transportation” stats were almost the same. heh.

Since ‘sex in the car’ also scores highly in Italy and Greece, I think the main reason is that Americans, Greeks and Italians are more likely to live with their parents in their extra horny late-teens.

Totally off-topic, but does anyone know the name of the font used in the pdf? It looks cool.

Government should invest resources to finding a cure for HIV/AIDS – 5% – 19%

Finns obviously assume that they can freeride on someone else’s research.

Too lazy to RTFA, but is it true that some americans don’t think oral sex as sex. I don’t mean just Bubba the Prez.

Since ’sex in the car’ also scores highly in Italy and Greece, I think the main reason is that Americans, Greeks and Italians are more likely to live with their parents in their extra horny late-teens.

Italy, Greece and the USA. So, “sex in the car” probably takes place with a prostitute.

Government should invest resources to finding a cure for HIV/AIDS – 5% – 19%

I found this stat interesting as well. 95% of Finns think the government should spend tax money on showing hockey on TV, but only 5% want the money to go towards curing AIDS. Weird.

Italy, Greece and the USA. So, “sex in the car” probably takes place with a prostitute.

In the US, it’s a high school thing.

Since ’sex in the car’ also scores highly in Italy and Greece, I think the main reason is that Americans, Greeks and Italians are more likely to live with their parents in their extra horny late-teens.

It’s probably more the case that in these three countries, family members are more likely to be agahst that their pure, innocent children are having sex, so it has to be a secret issue (hence the car) while in Northern European countries, it’s more or less accepted, if not encouraged.

Ryan

” sex in a car – 50% – 70%” may just be the bigger car’s we have.

A good reason to own one, I do declare.

“Government should invest resources to finding a cure for HIV/AIDS – 5% – 19%
Finns obviously assume that they can freeride on someone else’s research.”

No, Finns believe in private funded research, while the Americans assume the government will take care of everything.

“The Chinese (96 times) have more sex during a year than the Swedes (92 times).”

They say…

“Amount of sex in a year – 102 (28th) – 113 (11th)”

Come on, who counts!!! Do you put on x on a paper each time?

“freeride on someone else’s research”

Save than one for Arttu, the ultimate freerider.

Fuck AIDS research! We need to get a man on the moon, like the Chinese will and the Americans have! Right, winter?

On a serious note, though… Do you guys know anyone the *wouldn’t* lie on a sex survey:-)

I’ve had a gay/lesbian/bi experience – 13% – 24%

In my experience, it’s far more common in the US to have a period of lesbian experimentation in college. Or maybe just in the areas I lived in…

I bet both the countries would turn out to be equally hysterical about gay male experiences…

I can totally buy the one-night stand statistic, considering the local bar culture.

I wonder how they defined “open-minded”?

USA has about 40000 new HIV cases a year, Finland has about 100(?), which country do you think should invest more on AIDS research?

Plus, I think we have totally forgotten about the AIDS threat already, it’s like Chernobyl and radioactive mushrooms, bygones.

Phil wrote:
“I found this stat interesting as well. 95% of Finns think the government should spend tax money on showing hockey on TV, but only 5% want the money to go towards curing AIDS. Weird.”

Is it? HIV is not very common in Finland, so ordinary people aren’t very concerned about it either. And what’s with that 95%, how is that result obtained? I doubt the respondents of that poll had to choose between hockey and AIDS research. You can’t compare these findings.

Some figures:
Government should invest resources to finding a cure for HIV/AIDS: 5% (Finland) – 19% (USA)

HIV/AIDS adult prevalence rate:
less than 0.1% (Finland) – 0.6% (USA)
(Source: http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/)

Finnpundit,

Finns know how to use condoms, Americans do not. Hence the higher AIDS and children-born-outside-of-marriage stats. Or is it the fault of poor condoms that your 16 year old neighbor is becoming a dad for the 9th time (with 4 different sisters)?

Anonyymi pelkuri,

Of course some Americans do not consider oral sex as sex. That’s because in their state, having/giving oral sex is illegal and punishable by law.

Yeehaw, hang’em long haired hippie faggits….

The Dude is a prime example of an anti-American bigot, so prevalent in Finland. Every time one of them opens their mouths is a confirmation that anti-Finnish politics should become the practised norm in the US State Department.

Say no to Finland, my friends at the Foggy Bottom. Drop your idealism when it comes to the Nordic countries.

When anti-americanism spread to the general population, it also all intellectual sophistication.

that is, it LOST all intellectual sophistication.

Still, at lot of Americans share these same attitude as well.

I wonder how they defined “open-minded”?

Another word for anal?

USA has about 40000 new HIV cases a year, Finland has about 100(?), which country do you think should invest more on AIDS research?

So first world countries shouldn’t be conerned with let’s say, world hunger, because not too many citizens are first world countries die of starvation?

Is it? HIV is not very common in Finland, so ordinary people aren’t very concerned about it either.

Read my comment above.

Finns know how to use condoms, Americans do not.

How-to-put-on-a-condom was never taught to me in school (seriously). So I never figured it out.

Wasting my time, but:

@the Dude:
Laws against sodomy, adultery etc. are in various statute books, but don’t get enforced. Dead letter, really.
The children-born-outside-of-marriage debate is a moral panic you should just ignore.
Or if you want to get analytic about it, the welfare system used to actively punish poor people for forming nuclear families on the logic ‘man => breadwinner => no welfare’. Don’t know if they even have that system anymore.

@Phil & Finnpundit:
Isn’t the free market supposed to provide the solution to AIDS? What’s this, creeping statism?

“So first world countries shouldn’t be conerned with let’s say, world hunger, because not too many citizens are first world countries die of starvation?”

They should be. My point is that the higher percentage of americans supporting funding for AIDS research could be explained by higher AIDS prevalence rate. No need to invent american moral superiority theories or blame everything on evil freeriding finnish people.

“When anti-americanism spread to the general population, it also [lost] all intellectual sophistication.”

Contrary to the oh so sophisticated anti-europeanism from some of the posters here…

(Personally, I’m anti-American in the same sense Phil is anti-Finnish. We both sometimes have something critical to say.)

And of course sometimes our criticism may be a little uninformed.

I’m anti-American in the same sense Phil is anti-Finnish

I’m anti-Everything

Anti-american or not, but there is one point of truth to these rather unsophisticated pieces of critizism. Namely, that the US government quite stronly works against sex education and the proliferation of contraceptives, condoms in particular. Abstinence is the worst kind of method of contraception, because it fails so often.

On another note, the Finnish governemnt does in fact contribute a lot to AIDS/HIV research. I think that a lot of Finns believe that getting HIV is the sort of thing you can avoid by using condoms and not doing IV drugs. Which is of course mostly true.

I find it rather strange that anyone in their right mind would advocate the anti-sex education, abstinence-based and all, especially with the horrible track record that it has. Perhaps Finnpundit can amuse us further and tell us how the sale of condoms in the supermarket and openness and truth-based sex education is in fact freeriding on the back of the American worker-consumer, who not only pays for the social welfare of the Finnish freerider, but also has to suffer his STDs as well! Perhaps there is some unforeseen mechanism – no doubt clouded by our misplaced trust in the freeriding social democracy – that magically transmits all those nasty bacteria and viruses overseas.

What? Having sex 100 times per year?! I’m lucky to have just one! Where did these guys hold their surveys, anyway? (And how many of the surveyees were just bullshitting.)

@prince of dorkness: Yes, they still have it (no welfare if you live with your boyfriend/girlfriend/even a friend (of opposite sex) as a roommate). See, if you live with someone the government will automatically assume you are a family and should support each other. Of course for example in the case the other is unemployed the tax-rate doesn’t change, so if the family income is say 3000€ per month (earned by one breadwinner) you still pay about 1100€ a month in taxes. Compare that to two people of 1500€/month who pay perhaps 300*2=600€/month in tax. This is a perfect example how government policies give perverse incentives -> it may actually be profitable to live in two rental apartments than together in one, how sick is that?

And of course there’s the unequality-issue with two MALES living together (they don’t count as a family in this sense unless they live in as a “registered couple”).

I guessed the world-hunger argument would come up Are Americans equally devoted to curing malaria, tuberculosis and infant diarhhoea?

I agree that people in both countries should be more active about this, but come on: which do you think should be tried first – wait for a cure for aids, which may take years, or stop the spread of the epidemic by helping the 3rd world with education, safe sex and cheaper AIDS drugs?

From what I hear, the US is not always as altruistic about this:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/aids/story/0,7369,1558903,00.html

Has anyone noticed that lately there seems to be a lot less Finn in the F-pundit, btw?

Re Arttu’s question on the possibility that some unspeakable cad might fib on a quiz like this,
Phil could always poll us asking about various measurables (size, frequency, duration…).

Nah, It’s like my friend in the army once said: Sex is overrated, you guys make such a fuss over some pissy piece of meat.

I don’t think anyone’s devoted to curing malaria, except that Chinese doctor, who invented the cure already in the 70′s, but nobody was interested.

I find it rather strange that anyone in their right mind would advocate the anti-sex education, abstinence-based and all, especially with the horrible track record that it has.

The problem with the U.S. is that there’s many different types of people, different cultures, and each one wants to teach about sex different ways – and there’s nothing wrong with that. But the federal government forces all the public schools to teach sexual education in a cookie-cutter, one-size-fits-all way.

This is a perfect example how government policies give perverse incentives -> it may actually be profitable to live in two rental apartments than together in one, how sick is that?

It’s a ridiculous law. A boy and girl could never be just roomates, the government automatically assume you’re fucking and taxes you as such.

The problem with the U.S. is that there’s many different types of people, different cultures, and each one wants to teach about sex different ways – and there’s nothing wrong with that. But the federal government forces all the public schools to teach sexual education in a cookie-cutter, one-size-fits-all way.

Are there kids getting too much sex education? Least common denominator, most likely.

But it gets more serious if they want to advocate religiously based sex ed standards in 3rd world, which was the point.

Finnpundit,

Learn to read between the lines. I’m not anti-American, I’m just not 100% blind pro-America like you (which in your book probably makes me unpatriotic and pro-terrorism) Love it or leave it, huh?

Phil,

So you don’t think that a cookie cutter approach works for teaching about the scientific fact-based side of sex? Sure, it’s up to you if you want to believe that Eve was made out of Adam’s rib bone, but although it’s been a while since the last time I checked, I think you can still get AIDS and/or pregnant regardless of whether you are white, black, purple, straight, unstraight, rich, poor, a Broncos fan, and/or pro-anti-American.

By the way, teaching how to put on a condom is not such a bad idea. A long time ago I heard about this teenage guy who was complaining to his doctor that using condoms was painful. Apparently he was having trouble getting his testicles inside too….

Finnpundit,

Finland used to fight Stalin´s USSR, alone. You may scare the swedes, not us.

*cue Maamme-laulu*

…joo joo Jormanen. Sanos nyt kuule että milloin toi vitun talvisodan käyminen VIHDOINKIN lopetetaan tässä maassa? Eikö rupeais jo olemaan aika, häh, vai vedetäänkö vielä vuosituhat päälle?

*cue Maamme-laulu*

Maamme-laulu is for pussies.

“It’s a ridiculous law. A boy and girl could never be just roomates, the government automatically assume you’re fucking and taxes you as such.”

Not exactly. If you have separate rental agreements and separate rooms you will be treated as roommates and not lovers. I have friends who have had roommates of the opposite sex and there has never been any problems. In one case, where both boy and girl were homosexuals, Kela did an inquiry, but that was the only inquiry I have ever heard of.

hey, among all this high-falutin’ talk, no one has asked about the stats of americans in finland or of finns in america.

are they getting statistically more than the natives? best of both worlds?

as for myself – monogmomous and married american in finland – i’m doing my part to raise the averages for both countries. national pride and adopted national pride!