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	<title>Comments on: Kartanonkoski, hip and trendy</title>
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		<title>By: Manorman</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2005/07/31/kartanonkoski-hip-and-trendy/#comment-6216</link>
		<dc:creator>Manorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2005 21:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Been living almost a year here in Kartanonkoski and while the area is still very much under construction (most houses should be ready by 2006 but the parks and landscaping take up to 2010) it has been a great experience for a former city boy to live under a great blue sky and surrounded by green. 

The houses are nice to look at and there's a genuine community sense all around. 

I wouldn't mind having a cafe or two here, but there is everything you need just a 15min drive away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Been living almost a year here in Kartanonkoski and while the area is still very much under construction (most houses should be ready by 2006 but the parks and landscaping take up to 2010) it has been a great experience for a former city boy to live under a great blue sky and surrounded by green. </p>
<p>The houses are nice to look at and there&#8217;s a genuine community sense all around. </p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t mind having a cafe or two here, but there is everything you need just a 15min drive away.</p>
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		<title>By: mjr</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2005/07/31/kartanonkoski-hip-and-trendy/#comment-5913</link>
		<dc:creator>mjr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2005 19:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, it's not like the competition is very hard - Kartanonkoski has a unified look but not white or grey nor is it in that boring semi-modern style that Finnish architects and town planners love. I would not move there, but it is nice to see at least some real variety. It is actually quite an achievement considering the location that this place is actually the talk of the town. Anyone exited about Merihaka or It?Â¤-Pasila?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, it&#8217;s not like the competition is very hard - Kartanonkoski has a unified look but not white or grey nor is it in that boring semi-modern style that Finnish architects and town planners love. I would not move there, but it is nice to see at least some real variety. It is actually quite an achievement considering the location that this place is actually the talk of the town. Anyone exited about Merihaka or It?Â¤-Pasila?</p>
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		<title>By: Hank W.</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2005/07/31/kartanonkoski-hip-and-trendy/#comment-5905</link>
		<dc:creator>Hank W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2005 16:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They have similar "English-style" housing popping up everywhere. lepp?Â¤vaara has an area (and talk about expensive) and theres one row in Malminkartano that actually looks kinds funky, as every facade is different.. and different age/style regardless they're being built at the same time. Well, anything is better than the toilet-tile architecture. 

Kartanonkoski sucks because of the lack of services. The bus to Tikkurila doesn't take too long, but then again you could get a house nearer to Tikkurila anyways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have similar &#8220;English-style&#8221; housing popping up everywhere. lepp?Â¤vaara has an area (and talk about expensive) and theres one row in Malminkartano that actually looks kinds funky, as every facade is different.. and different age/style regardless they&#8217;re being built at the same time. Well, anything is better than the toilet-tile architecture. </p>
<p>Kartanonkoski sucks because of the lack of services. The bus to Tikkurila doesn&#8217;t take too long, but then again you could get a house nearer to Tikkurila anyways.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2005 14:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just one comment from a lifelong Helsinki resident:

Anyone associating "Vantaa" with "hip and trendy" should rather buy a bridge in Brooklyn. Still, a laudable attempt to build a new area that at least tries to look urban. Too bad it's in the middle of f-n nowhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just one comment from a lifelong Helsinki resident:</p>
<p>Anyone associating &#8220;Vantaa&#8221; with &#8220;hip and trendy&#8221; should rather buy a bridge in Brooklyn. Still, a laudable attempt to build a new area that at least tries to look urban. Too bad it&#8217;s in the middle of f-n nowhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Saksalainen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saksalainen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2005 13:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There has been an ongoing discussion between people who moved to Kartanonkoski, the architects and the City Planning Council of Vantaa for at least 6 months now. Some people who moved there complained they were tricked into moving there by brochures stating that everything that belongs to a small village would be there. Obviously, a newstand, a shop/shops, a coffee/bar and or restaurants are not among the things that belong to a small village in the architect's and city planning council's opinion. Well, one of them answered in an open letter that they have no reason to complain - they have a couple of hotels nearby to go out to eat ;-))))) Great, I enjoy going to a hotel bar, when I want to go out drinking!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There has been an ongoing discussion between people who moved to Kartanonkoski, the architects and the City Planning Council of Vantaa for at least 6 months now. Some people who moved there complained they were tricked into moving there by brochures stating that everything that belongs to a small village would be there. Obviously, a newstand, a shop/shops, a coffee/bar and or restaurants are not among the things that belong to a small village in the architect&#8217;s and city planning council&#8217;s opinion. Well, one of them answered in an open letter that they have no reason to complain - they have a couple of hotels nearby to go out to eat ;-))))) Great, I enjoy going to a hotel bar, when I want to go out drinking!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.finlandforthought.net/2005/07/31/kartanonkoski-hip-and-trendy/#comment-5875</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2005 11:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Everyone seems to have an opinion about it, most either love it or hate it."

I have no personal opinion about Kartanonkoski as I've never visited it but I'm very interested in what makes a place liveable or likeable. Not everyone has to like it, it would just be good, if the people who move in, would like it. Do you know if the people who love it would be prepared to live in those houses or are they just the kind who 'know better' what's good for someone else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Everyone seems to have an opinion about it, most either love it or hate it.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have no personal opinion about Kartanonkoski as I&#8217;ve never visited it but I&#8217;m very interested in what makes a place liveable or likeable. Not everyone has to like it, it would just be good, if the people who move in, would like it. Do you know if the people who love it would be prepared to live in those houses or are they just the kind who &#8216;know better&#8217; what&#8217;s good for someone else?</p>
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		<title>By: Saksalainen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saksalainen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2005 09:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There has been a big field, where Kartanonkoski is now. So they didn't cut many trees with the exception of the alley that separates Backas manor house from Kartanonkoski.
The houses are overpriced, but as others said before me, this seems to be a reason to buy rather than stay away. Isn't it nice to meet people you know, when they know you life in a 300kEUR rowhouse?
I wouldn't want to life there, maybe not even if someone gave me an apartment for free. The neighborhood is boring (unless you like to go to the local Karaoke bar, which by the way closes @ 9pm except Fridays and Saturdays)!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There has been a big field, where Kartanonkoski is now. So they didn&#8217;t cut many trees with the exception of the alley that separates Backas manor house from Kartanonkoski.<br />
The houses are overpriced, but as others said before me, this seems to be a reason to buy rather than stay away. Isn&#8217;t it nice to meet people you know, when they know you life in a 300kEUR rowhouse?<br />
I wouldn&#8217;t want to life there, maybe not even if someone gave me an apartment for free. The neighborhood is boring (unless you like to go to the local Karaoke bar, which by the way closes @ 9pm except Fridays and Saturdays)!!!</p>
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		<title>By: lewis</title>
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		<dc:creator>lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2005 09:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I agree with you Phil. The picture makes the buildings look like some sort of cartoon design. I am suspicious the whole thing is a very miserly set of poor house designs dressed up with some pretty decoration and vague concept to sell second class housing for first class prices...however I haven't seen it in the flesh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I agree with you Phil. The picture makes the buildings look like some sort of cartoon design. I am suspicious the whole thing is a very miserly set of poor house designs dressed up with some pretty decoration and vague concept to sell second class housing for first class prices&#8230;however I haven&#8217;t seen it in the flesh.</p>
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