Gang shootout in Finland
An almost daily occurance in my hometown of Baltimore, but rare here in Finland…
A gang fight in the Sörnäinen area of Helsinki escalated into a gun battle that injured two people. Two gang members were taken to hospital with gun wounds, but are in not serious condition.
The fight broke out between members of the Bandidos and Rogues Gallery motorcycle gang near the Sörnäinen metro stop. The square was full of people at the time, many of whom were outside at nearby bar terraces. Nonetheless no bystanders were injured.
Police have arrested two men, and questioned a dozen others. Witnesses say that as many as seven shots may have been fired from pistols. The last one [gang shootout] was five years ago in Lahti, that resulted in the deaths of three gang members.
Weird how Finns feel compelled to copy America in every way they can.
Comment by Finnpundit — Sun, Jul 31st, 2005 @ 5:57 pm
How witty and clever. finnpundit you must be one of the greatest minds produced by the american educational system.
Comment by O — Sun, Jul 31st, 2005 @ 6:45 pm
Comment by O — Sun, Jul 31st, 2005 @ 6:45 pm
“Weird how Finns feel compelled to copy America in every way they can.”
Yeah very weird. But you keep driving this idiocy on with your postings. I haven’t seen you make very many postings, that would say anything, except “copy the americans”.
Comment by Thomas — Sun, Jul 31st, 2005 @ 7:49 pm
I’m sure when those guys started pulling out their guns they were thinking “This’ll be fun, it’ll be just like copying the Americans”
Comment by Jukka — Sun, Jul 31st, 2005 @ 7:52 pm
“I???m sure when those guys started pulling out their guns they were thinking ???This???ll be fun, it???ll be just like copying the Americans??”
What DO you think they were thinking? “Let’s not copy the americans we saw on TV, but do it the other way around”? Funny how they ended up doing the TV version anyway.
Comment by Thomas — Sun, Jul 31st, 2005 @ 8:04 pm
Man!! Finnpundit, you really know how to “wind” these guys up!! (…as the Brits would say)
Comment by Phil — Sun, Jul 31st, 2005 @ 8:43 pm
Copy America? A HD-riding motorcycle gang? What the hell were you thinking, HD-riding gangs copying Russia or what?
Comment by sepisp — Sun, Jul 31st, 2005 @ 9:11 pm
So shooting people of a rival gang is copying americans? I’m not sure, but there might have been gangs before the big ol’ US of A, and maybe even guns before americans!
unbelievable.
Comment by ant'knee — Mon, Aug 1st, 2005 @ 4:18 am
Did they have American firearms? That would be an indication that they wanted to copy US. Maybe they also were shouting “Hasta la vista baby…”.
Comment by Anonymous — Mon, Aug 1st, 2005 @ 12:59 pm
The fact that the fight occurred between MC Bandidos and most probably a Hell’s Angels hangaround club, both outlaw MC gangs originating from guess-where, probably isn’t relevant..
Comment by Anonymous — Mon, Aug 1st, 2005 @ 3:54 pm
Oh, another thing. Phil, you might not be aware of this but lethal shootouts between rival outlaw MC gangs is not exactly new in Finland. There’s been a war between Bandidos and Hell’s Angels (and both organisations’ hangaround clubs) for at least 10 years, so people have gotten used to it. And as long as they only kill each other, I bet most don’t care.
Ah, another great export of American popular culture!
http://www.bandidosmc.com/
http://www.hells-angels.com/
Comment by Anonymous — Mon, Aug 1st, 2005 @ 4:46 pm
I’m not sure Rogues Gallery has anything to do with Hell’s Angels. They were founded in a Finnish prison for about four years ago. The leaders used to be in Cannonball MC. The police think Rogues Gallery are far more dangerous than either Hell’s Angels MC Finland or Bandidos MC Finland.
Comment by Helsinkian — Mon, Aug 1st, 2005 @ 5:17 pm
Cannonball MC was a Hell’s Angels hangaround club that was fighting with Bandidos way back when. They actually became part of MC Finland (Hell’s Angels) but resigned soon after that. There is nothing that can’t be solved with a little googling: here
The police might have reason to think they are more dangerous. Most likely this is just typical police BS where every gang is more dangerous than all the others combined, very much like each “new” drug is more dangerous than the others. (Take, for instance, the “superdrug” GHB, a mild sedative with alcohol-like effects).
Comment by Anonymous — Mon, Aug 1st, 2005 @ 5:28 pm
I suppose Rogues Gallery is an offshoot. Cannonball was a club that first wanted to join Hell’s Angels then broke with them. They continued the war against Bandidos after Hell’s Angels made peace, or a truce or whatever. Then some guys broke with Cannonball to become Rogues Gallery and that would mean they’re still continuing the old Hell’s Angels war against Bandidos.
Comment by Helsinkian — Mon, Aug 1st, 2005 @ 5:30 pm
“I suppose Rogues Gallery is an offshoot. Cannonball was a club that first wanted to join Hell???s Angels then broke with them. They continued the war against Bandidos after Hell???s Angels made peace, or a truce or whatever. Then some guys broke with Cannonball to become Rogues Gallery and that would mean they???re still continuing the old Hell???s Angels war against Bandidos.”
Copying USA? Sounds like normal mainstream finnish yhdistystoiminta to me
Comment by Antti (the red neck one) — Mon, Aug 1st, 2005 @ 6:37 pm
Coalition politics, essentially, in a parliamentary democracy.
Comment by Finnpundit — Mon, Aug 1st, 2005 @ 9:23 pm
Motorcycle gangs. I just don’t get it. Their like little children with real weapons. And a mental illnes. They know they are scum and could not make it on their own, so they have to form gangs and, yes, copy americans and american movies. Just like we played Star wars when I was a kid. I was allways Darth Vader.
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Program on the emergence of civilization.
“14 species of large animals capable of domesitcation in the history of mankind.
13 from Europe, Asia and northern Africa.
None from the sub-Saharan African continent. ”
Favor.
And disfavor.
They point out Africans’ failed attempts to domesticate the elephant and zebra, the latter being an animal they illustrate that had utmost importance for it’s applicability in transformation from a hunting/gathering to agrarian-based civilization.
The roots of racism are not of this earth.
Austrailia, aboriginals:::No domesticable animals.
The North American continent had none. Now 99% of that population is gone.
AIDS in Africa.
Organizational Heirarchy/Levels of positioning.
Heirarchical order, from top to bottom:
1. MUCK - perhaps have experienced multiple universal contractions (have seen multiple big bangs), creator of the artificial intelligence humans ignorantly refer to as “god”
2. Perhaps some mid-level alien management
3. Evil/disfavored aliens - runs day-to-day operations here and perhaps elsewhere
Terrestrial management/positioning:
4. Chinese/egyptians - this may be separated into the eastern and western worlds
5. Romans -
6. Mafia - the real-world 20th century interface that constantly turns over generationally so as to reinforce the widely-held notion of mortality
7. Jews, corporation, women, politician - Evidence exisits to suggest mafia management over all these groups.
Movies foreshadowing catastrophy
1985 James Bond View to a Kill 1989 San Francisco Loma Prieta earthquake.
Our society gives clues to the system in place. We all have heard the saying “He has more money than god.” There is also an episode of the Simpsons where god meets Homer and says “I’m too old and rich for this.”
This is the system on earth because this is the system everywhere.
I don’t want to suggest the upper eschelons are evil and good is the fringe.
But they have made it abundantly clear that doing business with evil (disfavored) won’t help people. They say only good would have the ear, since evil is struggling for survival, and therefore only the favored could help.
The clues are there which companies are favored and which are disfavored, but they conceal it very hard because it is so crucial.
I offer an example of historical proportions:::
People point to Walmart and cry “anti-union”.
Unions enable disfavored people to live satisfactorly without addressing their disfavor. This way their family’s problems are never resolved. Without the union they would have to accept the heirarchy, their own inferiority.
Unions serve to empower.
Walmart is anti-union because they are good. They try to help people address and resolve their problems by creating an enviornment where there are fewer hurdles.
Media ridicule and lawsuits are creations to reinforce people’s belief that Walmart is evil in a subsegment of the indistry dominated by the middle and lower classes.
Low-cost disfavored Chinese labor is utilized by corporate america to maximize margins. They all do it. Only WalMart gets fingered because they are the ones who help, and those who seek to create confusion in the marketplace want to eliminate the vast middle class who have a real chance and instead stick with lower classes who may not work otherwise. So they dirty him up while allowing the others to appear clean.
The middle class is being deceived. They are being misled into the unfavored, and subsequently will have no assistance from their purchases with corporate america.
I believe the coining of the term “Uncle Sam” was a clue alluding to just this::Sam Walton and WalMart is one of few saviors of the peasant class.
Amercia is a country of castoffs, rejects. Italy sent its criminals. Malcontents.
Between the thrones, the klans and kindred, they “decided” who they didn’t want and acted, creating discontent and/or starvation.
The u.s. is full of disfavored rejects. It is the reason for the myriad of problems not found in European countries. As far as the Rockafellers and other industrialists of the 19th century go, I suspect these aren’t their real names. I suspect they were chosen to go and head this new empire.
Royalty is the right way to organize a society. Dictatorships and monarchies are a reflection of the antient’s hierarchical organization.
Positions go to those who have favor with the rulers, as opposed to being elected.
Elections bring a false sense of how the world is. Democracy misleads people.
Which is why the disfavored rejects were sent to the shores of America::To keep them on the wrong path.
Jesus Christ is a religious figure of evil. These seperatist churches formed so they could still capture the rest of the white people, keeping them worshipping the wrong god.
And now they do it to people of color, Latinos and Asians, after centuries of preying upon them.
Simpson’s foreshadowing::Helloween IV special, Flanders is Satan. “Last one you ever suspect.”
“You’ll see lots of nuns where you’re going:::hell!!!” St. Wigham, Helloween VI, missionary work, destroying cultures.
Over and over, the Simpsons was a source of education and enlightenment, a target of ridicule by the system which wishes to conceal its secrets.
Since Buddism doesn’t recongnize a god, the calls are never heard, and Chinese representation is instead selected by the thrones.
Budda was the Asian’s Jesus Christ::: bad for the people. “They came up at the same time for a reason.”
Jews maim the body formed in the image of “god”, and inflicted circumsision upon all other white people, as well as the evil that is Jesus Christ.
I think about how Jews (were used to) created homosexuality among Slavics, retribution for the Holocaust.
Then I think of the Catholic Church and its troubles.
What connection is here between Jews and the Catholic church???
If it is their sinister motives that’s behind the evil that is Jesus Christ are they being used at all?
Perhaps it is them who are pulling strings.
Their centuries of slavery in Egypt proves their disfavor. The Jew leaders decided to prey on the up-and-coming Europeans to try to fix their problems with the ruling elite, a recurring aspect of their methodology.
I believe Islam is the one true religion, and those misled christians who attack “god”’s most favored people will pay dearly one day.
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