Comments on: Green Party Presidential Candidate responds on Finland for Thought…

By: Markku

Markku — Mon, 08 Aug 2005 05:47:21 +0000

Here I agree with Finnpundit: without massive deployment of nuclear power Kyoto was unrealistic. Idiotically, Germany has committed to giving up for nuclear power. These poor bastards don’t realize that the only chance for Germany to survive economically is the massive use of nuclear power – regardless of Kyoto.

By: Finnpundit

Finnpundit — Sun, 07 Aug 2005 16:54:42 +0000

But the agreements will not be followed. It is impossible for Finland and Europe to actually achieve what’s been agreed to. That is what that 20% figure meant. It is economically impossible at this point to actually achieve Kyoto’s goals.

They will, of course, change the rules just before the Kyoto treaty’s term expires. But then that wouldn’t be a treaty anymore, would it?

By: Thomas

Thomas — Sat, 06 Aug 2005 23:32:09 +0000

Fred Fry:

“Just where has the EU dealt with Kyoto other than sign it? It was already posted here that Finland is 20% above it???s Kyoto target and a number of other EU nations are no better off”

But the EU SIGNED IT, contrary to the U.S., and that MEANS following the agreements. What is your problem, if you don’t understand this?

By: Finnpundit

Finnpundit — Mon, 01 Aug 2005 18:16:37 +0000

I tend to think that the alacrity of Finnish commenters on this blog to turn the tables on every one of Phil’s posts into a discussion of the US, Iraq, or the Kyoto treaty speaks for itself.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 01 Aug 2005 15:35:35 +0000

The sign of true eloquence is to be full of shit and just keep on dancing without being ignored, which he would be if his style were as half-witted as (most of) his content.

The sign of Finnplunder losing an argument is common to his (I’m assuming a male gender here) kind: he stops posting about a particular subject and starts a diatribe about something else.

By: Fred Fry

Fred Fry — Mon, 01 Aug 2005 15:12:35 +0000

Nothing like free speach and posting anonymously!

By: O

Mon, 01 Aug 2005 15:10:41 +0000

besides when reading finnpundits posts you can smell the sh*t for miles and for that I wouldn’t say his posts are eloquent

By: O

Mon, 01 Aug 2005 15:07:04 +0000

It doesn’t matter how good you are with words it’s the content of those words that matters and finnpundit should know this before he enters into an arguement

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 01 Aug 2005 14:32:13 +0000

Helsinkian:
Few people can argue as skilfully for the United States (native-born Americans seldom succeed in that as most liberals are bashing the red states and most conservatives are bashing the blue states all the time) as Finnpundit.

I agree wholeheartedly. Finnplunder is full of s**t, obviously, but in an eloquent, entertaining way.

By: Helsinkian

Helsinkian — Mon, 01 Aug 2005 11:27:06 +0000

My point wasn’t about what Finnpundit is saying. It’s about HOW you say things (even if Finnpundit wouldn’t approve of my using capital letters). Few people can argue as skilfully for the United States (native-born Americans seldom succeed in that as most liberals are bashing the red states and most conservatives are bashing the blue states all the time) as Finnpundit. The weakest spot in Finnpundit’s argument is the “Europe should shut up” part of it. That’s just as simplistic as the “America should shut up” crap of the anti-Americans.

By: O

Mon, 01 Aug 2005 09:35:41 +0000

I don’t see how finnpundit contributes anything to the conversation when all he is saying is that everything thats american must be good, remindes me of american frat boys who are allways yelling america is the best, we can kick your ass with our nuclear weapons so shut up and let us be ignorant idiots.

By: Helsinkian

Helsinkian — Mon, 01 Aug 2005 07:10:01 +0000

I certainly for one think all different systems have their pros and cons. Where one system suits for one country, it doesn’t have to be the right one for another country. You guys seem to forget that Finland and the United States are both democracies. Systems itself are very vulnerable and always imperfect. I think President Kekkonen was pretty good at manipulating the Finnish system to a less democratic direction whenever he felt the need to do so. No matter how perfect a document the US Constitution is, there’s probably a much better functioning opposition in today’s Russia than President Monroe faced in his time in the United States. When political ?Â©lites start functioning around one person, any system is in danger of escaping the voters’ reach.

And Finnpundit, you’re right that profanity is a clear sign of losing the argument. Losing doesn’t always mean you’re wrong, it usually means not sticking to your guns and defending your position fairly. No matter the position, Finnpundit’s strength is in producing readable arguments.

By: Fred Fry

Fred Fry — Mon, 01 Aug 2005 03:28:24 +0000

“Would that mean things like the Kyoto agreement, which the oh so flexible U.S. of A. has not been able to accept, or? Parliamentary Europe, has been able to deal with this question YEARS before the U.S.”

Just where has the EU dealt with Kyoto other than sign it? It was already posted here that Finland is 20% above it’s Kyoto target and a number of other EU nations are no better off:
http://www.finlandforthought.net/index.php?p=37

Now the idea of proportional representation might seem like a panacea for those who hate the Democrats, but be careful what you ask for. Most of the Republicans elected come from more sparsely populated parts of the country where the Democrats get their strengths from the cities where the Republicans are mostly shut out. Proportional representation will more benefit the Republicans who would gain seats in the cities…….

Funny, I thought the Finnish election system was weird. Nothing like having a large number of candidates and when you vote, you vote for one. I speak from experience. In the US you get the vote for many things. The ballot with the circle in it that I was handed was somewhat of a disappointment.

By: Finnpundit

Finnpundit — Mon, 01 Aug 2005 01:40:40 +0000

I don’t think young Thomas got it.

By: Justen

Justen — Sun, 31 Jul 2005 19:58:19 +0000

Thanks, Finnpundit, I stand corrected.