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	<title>Comments on: Finland, the world&#8217;s most interesting country that Americans know least about</title>
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		<title>By: pokemon</title>
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		<dc:creator>pokemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not to try to change Finland. 

I found this site accidentally, when I was trying to look for something on Pekka Himanen&#039;s new report for the Finnish government.

I am Finn who has lived in Japan for over ten years. After reading the posts I thought this is exactly how I used to feel about Japan. Whenever I got back to Finland and saw Japanese tourist groups there, I wanted to go and bully them. Well, I never did it though :), but what I want to say is that I experienced a very bad culture shock in Japan, actually several of them, and I just hated Japan, but what helped me was that I became an activist. I try to change Japan more foreigner-friendly now. And what is most important I try to change Japan with Japanese who think their country should change, too. 

What I want to say here is that why not to try to change Finland. I am sure that there are Finns who would be happy to help you. 

And what comes to racists, they are mostly rather uneducated people. Don&#039;t waste your time on them. Just ignore them. If someone is violent against you, go to the police. Inform the tabloids. Make it public. 
Don&#039;t let Finland, or any other country for that matter, to ruin your life. You can make Finland a better place. As an expatriate Finn, I am surely happy, if you do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not to try to change Finland. </p>
<p>I found this site accidentally, when I was trying to look for something on Pekka Himanen&#8217;s new report for the Finnish government.</p>
<p>I am Finn who has lived in Japan for over ten years. After reading the posts I thought this is exactly how I used to feel about Japan. Whenever I got back to Finland and saw Japanese tourist groups there, I wanted to go and bully them. Well, I never did it though <img src='http://www.finlandforthought.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> , but what I want to say is that I experienced a very bad culture shock in Japan, actually several of them, and I just hated Japan, but what helped me was that I became an activist. I try to change Japan more foreigner-friendly now. And what is most important I try to change Japan with Japanese who think their country should change, too. </p>
<p>What I want to say here is that why not to try to change Finland. I am sure that there are Finns who would be happy to help you. </p>
<p>And what comes to racists, they are mostly rather uneducated people. Don&#8217;t waste your time on them. Just ignore them. If someone is violent against you, go to the police. Inform the tabloids. Make it public.<br />
Don&#8217;t let Finland, or any other country for that matter, to ruin your life. You can make Finland a better place. As an expatriate Finn, I am surely happy, if you do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Finland Just Sucks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Finland Just Sucks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 13:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For comment 32 by SuomiFinland:
People like you make Finland such a bad place to live.

I live in Finland and I just have to say I can&#039;t say anything good about this country anymore. Most of the bad things about Finland have already been said and I can totally agree with them.

I know I should go somewhere else from Finland but right now I don&#039;t know do I even care anymore, I probably end up  commiting a suicide.

I just hope you people don&#039;t buy any Finnish products. For example Nokia phones. By doing that you don&#039;t have to support this lame country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For comment 32 by SuomiFinland:<br />
People like you make Finland such a bad place to live.</p>
<p>I live in Finland and I just have to say I can&#8217;t say anything good about this country anymore. Most of the bad things about Finland have already been said and I can totally agree with them.</p>
<p>I know I should go somewhere else from Finland but right now I don&#8217;t know do I even care anymore, I probably end up  commiting a suicide.</p>
<p>I just hope you people don&#8217;t buy any Finnish products. For example Nokia phones. By doing that you don&#8217;t have to support this lame country.</p>
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		<title>By: Nacho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nacho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 10:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I lived in Finland for about a year and a half, and I am disappointed. The people are selfish and rude, they hate foreigners. I speak finnish already, but doesn´t help at all. I have been a target of racist attacks 3 times. I work, and pay taxes and finance the lazy people who do not want to work. I don´t have health insurance, allthough I have all the documents required. I lived in many different countries, and this is by far the worst. If I don´t leave, I will commit suicide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lived in Finland for about a year and a half, and I am disappointed. The people are selfish and rude, they hate foreigners. I speak finnish already, but doesn´t help at all. I have been a target of racist attacks 3 times. I work, and pay taxes and finance the lazy people who do not want to work. I don´t have health insurance, allthough I have all the documents required. I lived in many different countries, and this is by far the worst. If I don´t leave, I will commit suicide.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 09:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, they are retarted. But get me one country where people are not. It juts doesn´t exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, they are retarted. But get me one country where people are not. It juts doesn´t exist.</p>
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		<title>By: Macker Maldrill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Macker Maldrill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 11:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comments here have really been quite an eye opener for me.  I have known a Finish woman for several years here in New York and she is generally quiet, reserved and polite.  The first thing I noticed, though, was an incredible lack of self esteem which I thought was just her but the comments here indicate that it is some sort of national trait.  After getting to know her a bit, the reserved quiet side can turn to near violent outbursts.  There is a tremendous anger just under the surface that everyone else is stupider than her, every American is an idiot, and Finland is both morally and intellectually superior to everywhere else.  Fleeting statistics on education, how many countries they&#039;ve traveled to on brief vacations, the economy and how many languages they speak in Finland seem to be how they measure themselves as superior to everyone else.  The woman isn&#039;t uneducated but she is certainly not as smart as she thinks she is.  I think it must be the brainwashing that all the Finnish people here speak of.  I never thought she was representative of the culture in Finland, but the comments on here make me think that many in Finland are like this.  Of course there are all types everywhere, but this really turns me off of Finland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comments here have really been quite an eye opener for me.  I have known a Finish woman for several years here in New York and she is generally quiet, reserved and polite.  The first thing I noticed, though, was an incredible lack of self esteem which I thought was just her but the comments here indicate that it is some sort of national trait.  After getting to know her a bit, the reserved quiet side can turn to near violent outbursts.  There is a tremendous anger just under the surface that everyone else is stupider than her, every American is an idiot, and Finland is both morally and intellectually superior to everywhere else.  Fleeting statistics on education, how many countries they&#8217;ve traveled to on brief vacations, the economy and how many languages they speak in Finland seem to be how they measure themselves as superior to everyone else.  The woman isn&#8217;t uneducated but she is certainly not as smart as she thinks she is.  I think it must be the brainwashing that all the Finnish people here speak of.  I never thought she was representative of the culture in Finland, but the comments on here make me think that many in Finland are like this.  Of course there are all types everywhere, but this really turns me off of Finland.</p>
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		<title>By: Fuck Suomi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fuck Suomi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree with comment #46.
Finland sucks!
It&#039;s by FAR, the most useless, inbreed cocks suckers and racist country i&#039;ve ever put my feet on.
Actually i&#039;m still trying to figure out which of Russia or Finland is first at racism and sucking cocks.
I guess they&#039;re both nbr 1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree with comment #46.<br />
Finland sucks!<br />
It&#8217;s by FAR, the most useless, inbreed cocks suckers and racist country i&#8217;ve ever put my feet on.<br />
Actually i&#8217;m still trying to figure out which of Russia or Finland is first at racism and sucking cocks.<br />
I guess they&#8217;re both nbr 1.</p>
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		<title>By: Mavihaansuomea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mavihaansuomea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You forgot a couple &quot;the&quot; words from your article. Having lived in Finland my whole life I have to point out how much I hate it here. The people are rude and obnoxious, there&#039;s literally no culture and the welfare isn&#039;t all it&#039;s cracked up to be. Only good thing is the free education. Still I&#039;d rather move to Russia than live another second in this depressig country. Also the Finnish are incredibly violent and since there&#039;s nothing to do here people just drink alcohol(I don&#039;t), so violence + alcohol = you know what. Finland has A LOT to learn in almost every department. Finland WOULD fall centuries behind if the current leaders were put out of comission. Now they aren&#039;t even near the best leaders, but seeing as how this is a proletarian heaven there&#039;s no other option really, unless this became a fundamentalistic country(which isn&#039;t such a long-shot since Christianity is frighteningly strong in almost everything Finland does).

Of course no Finnish is ever going to take anything negative about Finland because the parents and especially the grand parents do an amazing job at brain washing their young by saying how Finland is better than all and that everyone else is wrong. A bit narcissistic?
Unless of course one of the minority who isn&#039;t brain washed sees this, he or she will most likely agree to almost every point I had.

And I don&#039;t agree about the Japanese being the same. At least they still have moral values. You really can&#039;t say that about the Finnish now can you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forgot a couple &#8220;the&#8221; words from your article. Having lived in Finland my whole life I have to point out how much I hate it here. The people are rude and obnoxious, there&#8217;s literally no culture and the welfare isn&#8217;t all it&#8217;s cracked up to be. Only good thing is the free education. Still I&#8217;d rather move to Russia than live another second in this depressig country. Also the Finnish are incredibly violent and since there&#8217;s nothing to do here people just drink alcohol(I don&#8217;t), so violence + alcohol = you know what. Finland has A LOT to learn in almost every department. Finland WOULD fall centuries behind if the current leaders were put out of comission. Now they aren&#8217;t even near the best leaders, but seeing as how this is a proletarian heaven there&#8217;s no other option really, unless this became a fundamentalistic country(which isn&#8217;t such a long-shot since Christianity is frighteningly strong in almost everything Finland does).</p>
<p>Of course no Finnish is ever going to take anything negative about Finland because the parents and especially the grand parents do an amazing job at brain washing their young by saying how Finland is better than all and that everyone else is wrong. A bit narcissistic?<br />
Unless of course one of the minority who isn&#8217;t brain washed sees this, he or she will most likely agree to almost every point I had.</p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t agree about the Japanese being the same. At least they still have moral values. You really can&#8217;t say that about the Finnish now can you?</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 06:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I lived in finland for 3 years.  It was the most depressing place I ever experienced.  I am a diplomat and have lived in poverty struck places like Africa, not to mention Russia, but I have yet to live in a more depressed, alcohole suicide country like Finland.  We all believe Finland is a part of Europe, but truly it isn&#039;t.  Finland needs help and it needs to realize the needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lived in finland for 3 years.  It was the most depressing place I ever experienced.  I am a diplomat and have lived in poverty struck places like Africa, not to mention Russia, but I have yet to live in a more depressed, alcohole suicide country like Finland.  We all believe Finland is a part of Europe, but truly it isn&#8217;t.  Finland needs help and it needs to realize the needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Tryptych</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tryptych</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 21:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this the place where you can bitch about Finland? Where do I sign up? :D

Seriously &#039;tho, I&#039;ve been around the world a few times (maybe 30-40 countries), and I got to say, one of the main problems is: apathy. Sure it&#039;s the weather and everything, but also the use of alcohol. I live in one of the &quot;coolest&quot; parts of Helsinki which also happens to be one of the most boozed ones (unfortunately). It&#039;s damn gray in here, and that combined with the bureaucratic shit is damn depressing. Summers in Helsinki are OK &#039;tho, but I wish I had the money to move somewhere else (seriously).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this the place where you can bitch about Finland? Where do I sign up? <img src='http://www.finlandforthought.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Seriously &#8216;tho, I&#8217;ve been around the world a few times (maybe 30-40 countries), and I got to say, one of the main problems is: apathy. Sure it&#8217;s the weather and everything, but also the use of alcohol. I live in one of the &#8220;coolest&#8221; parts of Helsinki which also happens to be one of the most boozed ones (unfortunately). It&#8217;s damn gray in here, and that combined with the bureaucratic shit is damn depressing. Summers in Helsinki are OK &#8216;tho, but I wish I had the money to move somewhere else (seriously).</p>
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		<title>By: Moika</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jag var ju helt enkelt tvungen att kommentera denna blogg då jag satt med ett googlesök efter &quot;finland suger&quot;, hamnade här, och resten är historia.
Intressant inlägg dock.
För övrigt så jo, Finland suger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jag var ju helt enkelt tvungen att kommentera denna blogg då jag satt med ett googlesök efter &#8220;finland suger&#8221;, hamnade här, och resten är historia.<br />
Intressant inlägg dock.<br />
För övrigt så jo, Finland suger.</p>
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		<title>By: vastustuskyky</title>
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		<dc:creator>vastustuskyky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>umm.. Great, if someones can let the country be the way it is and just point some no-good stuff without trying to change the  whole culture.. 

I lived in Japan and came to notice the Japanese are pretty much the same kind of bullshit-people as we Finns (I really do understand the annoyance you have,) but I love them the way they are, and that&#039;s why I&#039;m going to get back in there. probably makes me some kinda masochist though. I hope it&#039;s your own choice to decide where you live, and I feel sorry for you, if you can&#039;t do anything for your own situation.

Love you, if you like finland the way it is. keep studying the language and culture and try to bear us stupid Finns. If you don&#039;t like it, I&#039;m not going to blame you in any ways. but if you just hate the whole place, why do you still live in here, if it&#039;s so damn hard? run for your lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>umm.. Great, if someones can let the country be the way it is and just point some no-good stuff without trying to change the  whole culture.. </p>
<p>I lived in Japan and came to notice the Japanese are pretty much the same kind of bullshit-people as we Finns (I really do understand the annoyance you have,) but I love them the way they are, and that&#8217;s why I&#8217;m going to get back in there. probably makes me some kinda masochist though. I hope it&#8217;s your own choice to decide where you live, and I feel sorry for you, if you can&#8217;t do anything for your own situation.</p>
<p>Love you, if you like finland the way it is. keep studying the language and culture and try to bear us stupid Finns. If you don&#8217;t like it, I&#8217;m not going to blame you in any ways. but if you just hate the whole place, why do you still live in here, if it&#8217;s so damn hard? run for your lives.</p>
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		<title>By: will</title>
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		<dc:creator>will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we brought this western way of living there and we think they are worse than us coz of our values! Is that true??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we brought this western way of living there and we think they are worse than us coz of our values! Is that true??</p>
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		<title>By: will</title>
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		<dc:creator>will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>have you ever thought why nothern countries are usually very developed?? because we have to be or we would be dead othervise.
What did people do in tropical countries?? they chilled and ate bananas and had a really good time while we were using our brains to make things better. I really got born in a wrong country! 
still finnish</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>have you ever thought why nothern countries are usually very developed?? because we have to be or we would be dead othervise.<br />
What did people do in tropical countries?? they chilled and ate bananas and had a really good time while we were using our brains to make things better. I really got born in a wrong country!<br />
still finnish</p>
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		<title>By: finhater</title>
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		<dc:creator>finhater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 03:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi John from Nigeria,  I worked in Nigeria for two years before having the misfortune of getting my next job in Helstinky.  There is no country that is more depressing then Finland.  There are no people that are more introverted then the Finns.  Of coarse you might get some sort of reaction out of them after there forth glass of Finlandia.  Lagos was way more full of life and fresh fruit, delicious fish and fine weather then any part of finland will every be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John from Nigeria,  I worked in Nigeria for two years before having the misfortune of getting my next job in Helstinky.  There is no country that is more depressing then Finland.  There are no people that are more introverted then the Finns.  Of coarse you might get some sort of reaction out of them after there forth glass of Finlandia.  Lagos was way more full of life and fresh fruit, delicious fish and fine weather then any part of finland will every be.</p>
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		<title>By: finhater</title>
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		<dc:creator>finhater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 03:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I lived in Helstinky for 3 long, depressing, anti-social, vitamin D deprived, self medicated by booze, years.  I never knew what hell really was till I got there.  It did not take long when no one talks to you or looks at you.  No smiles, just naked asses in saunas, with nothing positive to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lived in Helstinky for 3 long, depressing, anti-social, vitamin D deprived, self medicated by booze, years.  I never knew what hell really was till I got there.  It did not take long when no one talks to you or looks at you.  No smiles, just naked asses in saunas, with nothing positive to say.</p>
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