Tsunami Aid - More thoughts…
Does the Finnish/American government’s donation to the disaster relief indirectly hamper the individual donations of Finnish/American citizens? This doesn’t just apply to Finland or the United States, it can apply to any country.
Do you think Finns/Americans might say to themselves, “Well, I don’t need to donate anything myself because my government and tax-money is doing it for me?”
If Finland & the United States wouldn’t give any money to the disaster relief, would this raise, lower, or keep steady the amount of individual donations?
Finland has donated 2.5 million euros. That’s something like 48 cents per citizen. Big deal. If each person would donate just 10 euros, that’s 52 million euros from little Finland. Now of course there are unemployed persons and non-workers like children who couldn’t afford 10 euros, but surely some of Finland’s middle-class and wealthier citizens could donate 15 or 20 euros to make up the difference don’t you think?
We all know how Finland craves any competition with neighboring Sweden. Maybe a fundraising competition could be setup between the Swedes and the Finns to see which country could raise more money? Surely the Finns wouldn’t want to see their arch-rivals beat them.
I’m not saying I necessarily agree with all this but I have confidence that the Finnish & American citizens could easily outperform the normal disaster relief donations of their governments. In my opinion, 48 cents per person and even LESS from Americans is almost an insult to unfortunate victims in Asia.
…just a thought.













A bottle of Kossu costs less than 10 euros. Almost anyone here could afford to donate that this year. But…?
Comment by Humpa — Wed, Dec 29th, 2004 @ 6:05 pm
“Do you think Finns/Americans might say to themselves, ???Well, I don???t need to donate anything myself because my government and tax-money is doing it for me???”
Not only do I think that, I know it for the fact! If you go take a look at the discussion forum at iltasanomat.fi, you can see that some people actually say they have already contributed enough just by paying their taxes.
However, I think this is often just a convenient excuse for people who don’t feel like giving a single penny to any cause, no matter what it is. They wouldn’t be contributing to charity even if the tax rate was zero.
But in general I think you have a point. Finns are incredibly stingy to give money to NGOs because they tend to think that the government should take care of everything.
Comment by peterelk — Wed, Dec 29th, 2004 @ 8:19 pm
Oh, Iltasanomat.fi’s forum is full of people who want to disagree just for the fun of it, I wouldn’t count it as the most reliable source. But it is true that Finns are somewhat stingy, even though the amount of donated money so far (from individuals) is promising - for a start.
Comment by Pete — Wed, Dec 29th, 2004 @ 8:42 pm
I heard the news that donations by private citizens and corporate Finland has already exceeded 1 million, which surpasses the 500kEUR of the government. But I bet there will be the same old whining again that we shouldn’t be sending a penny overseas as long as we have finns queueing up their food from the salvation army.
Comment by Antti — Wed, Dec 29th, 2004 @ 10:35 pm
Well, Peter, I went on to read the discussion at http://www.iltasanomat.fi - I shouldn’t have as I’m fuming in anger right now. But like I said, the numbers speak for themselves, Finns do care more than what one would judge from those arrogant forum whiners who are a breed of their own. Some people there on the discussion forum are incredibly stupid, but thankfully more are capable of being compassionate. By the way, I wish more companies will follow Apple’s decision to express their support: http://www.apple.com
Comment by Pete — Thu, Dec 30th, 2004 @ 12:29 am
Yeah and if we would donate all our money, we could get rid of more problems everywhere in the world! And if we all would destroy our guns, there would be world peace!
But it’s one’s own choice to donate or not to donate.
“Fundraising competition” you mentioned does work:
http://www.joulupata.fi/cgi-bin/joulupata/lahjoitukset2004.cgi
(Salvation Army)
Comment by Jooseppi — Thu, Dec 30th, 2004 @ 5:00 pm
Phil, sorry if I ruined your day:-) Iltasanomat discussion forum is sure to make you nauseous, no matter what the topic is. It was also the best place to find idiots to support my argument;-) But thank God they don’t represent all Finns. I hope.
Comment by peterelk — Thu, Dec 30th, 2004 @ 10:31 pm
Well do give, but also tele your rep to allocate more money, and for another idea: the folks at Lonely Planet boards are taking the party line that canceling a trip to a unaffected parts of say Thailand is not the thing to do right now, locals depend heavility on tourism for livelyhood. Which is the correct response. Also for the long term reconstruction, tourists euros and dollars are helpful as Tony Wheeler points out at the
So here’s an idea, next winter when you’re taking your holiday, if Sri Lanka for example is in visitable condition as it propably will be, go! I’d guess that about three hundred thousand or so people from Finland take a winter vacation somewhere anyway, now if they would all go to Sri Lanka for the tan: suppose they spend one thousand euros each, that’s three hundred million euros to the local economy, or about 2% of the Sri Lankan GDP.
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